Raiders Cut Cb Routt - Signs With Chiefs

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329056399' post='992486']
Without a doubt Carson Palmer is one of the best Qb to have every wore a Raider uniform.[/quote]

i think that says more about the Raiders than it does carson palmer

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329056399' post='992486']
C Palmer will be easy one next year .(there is nothing wrong with his arm) Probably top five. Let see with no training camp and not knowing anyone on offense. HE was a 61% percent passer with a ridiculous 8.4 per pass average (tied for third with eli Manning and that was without darren Mcfadden and Jacoby Ford)

Without a doubt Carson Palmer is one of the best Qb to have every wore a Raider uniform. Throws a deep pass as well as any Qb in the game. This Raider offense going to be explosive.


BTw If Raiders do move Mcfadden look for M lynch to be in Oakland. The local boy is dieing to come home and play for the Raiders.
[/quote]

Look who's back!!

If your half season with Palmer proved anything about him, it's that he isn't a top ten/top five passer, not even close. Have fun addressing team needs with that fifth round pick of yours.

[Raider9175]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1329056947' post='992492']

i think that says more about the Raiders than it does carson palmer[/quote]

61 % percent passer with the third best 8.4 average per pass(behind a Rodgers, T Brady and tied with Eli Manning) That was without Darren Mcfadden and Jacoby Ford who onjly make those average per pass go way up.

Yes Carson Plamer threw a lot of interceptions last year . Lets see coming off his couch cold seven weeks into the season, not knowing the offense, the players and waht did you expect. Do you know who led the Nfl in interceptions in 2010. and went on to have a monster year in 2011. Eli Manning.

There is no doubt C Plamer will be a top ten passser and will be ranked a lot higher than JOe Flacco next season. ( anyone want to put6 a wager on that one- like stealing candy from a baby)

[ravens__]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329056399' post='992486']
Without a doubt Carson Palmer is one of the best Qb to have every wore a Raider uniform.
[/quote]

Off the top of my head, Gannon, Lamonica, Collins, Stabler, Plunkett. Palmer has no business being even close to the same company as these guys.
Oh and welcome back! Don't run away again when Carson starts throwing INTs all over the place

[Raider9175]

[quote name='PWNEDbyDEANO' timestamp='1329057178' post='992496']

Look who's back!!

If your half season with Palmer proved anything about him, it's that he isn't a top ten/top five passer, not even close. Have fun addressing team needs with that fifth round pick of yours.[/quote]

Your ill informed. Raiders are looking at 3 high draft picks when compensation picks are announced. Defintely getting a third for losing Asomugha. (Pick 97) Could get a Third (could be 99 pick of draft) oR fourth for losing Zach miller, and could get a 4, fifth or nothing for losing R gallery.

Again why did raiders lose those picks they got pieces that are their future a year early to lerarn the system.

[Raider9175]

[quote name='ravens__' timestamp='1329057699' post='992501']

Off the top of my head, Gannon, Lamonica, Collins, Stabler, Plunkett. Palmer has no business being even close to the same company as these guys.
Oh and welcome back! Don't run away again when Carson starts throwing INTs all over the place [/quote]

Again you want to put a little bet who is the higher ranked passer next season Carson Palmer or Joe Flacco 58% with a anemic 6.7 yard per pass. ( I don't like tm take advanatge of anyone because that a bet I easy win)

NOne of the Qbs had the accuracy or threw as well a deep pass as well as Carson Palmer. This offense has a chance to be the most explosive offense in the game. Pieces are all there.

[ravens__]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329058143' post='992504']
Again you want to put a little bet who is the higher ranked passer next season Carson Palmer or Joe Flacco 58% with a anemic 6.7 yard per pass.  ( I don't like tm take advanatge of anyone because that a bet I easy win)
NOne of the Qbs had the accuracy or threw as well a deep pass as well as Carson Palmer.   This offense has a chance to be the most explosive offense in the game.  Pieces are all there.
[/quote]

I never put bets but I really hope someone takes it just to watch you eat crow once all is said and done.
"NOne of the Qbs had the accuracy or threw as well a deep pass as well as Carson Palmer." - If you really believe that, there's nothing more to be discussed here. You, my friend, are oblivious.

[arnie_uk]

a free comedy show? yes please

[GrimCoconut]

Oh! Since the Raiders run zone for their corners maybe they trade us a pick for Carr! How nice would that be! I mean, they did lose a corner. You never know.

Now let the crazy Bleacher Report rumors begin.

[arnie_uk]

maybe we could trade him and joe for Carson "strong accurate armed elite tp 10 QB" Palmer

[Raider9175]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1329062243' post='992528']Oh! Since the Raiders run zone for their corners maybe they trade us a pick for Carr! How nice would that be! I mean, they did lose a corner. You never know.

Now let the crazy Bleacher Report rumors begin.[/quote]


I don't like to pick on anyone. But you do know what it is to be an unrestricted FA. So you don't have to trade for anybody there buddy. Second do you know Chris carr was orginally an undrafted Fa with the raiders.
Third what it means Raiders will probably pick up Tracy Porter in Fa.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329064618' post='992536']
I don't like to pick on anyone. But you do know what it is to be an unrestricted FA. So you don't have to trade for anybody there buddy. Second do you know Chris carr was orginally an undrafted Fa with the raiders.
Third what it means Raiders will probably pick up Tracy Porter in Fa.
[/quote]
what are talking about? carr isnt a UFA?

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329064618' post='992536']



I don't like to pick on anyone. But you do know what it is to be an unrestricted FA. So you don't have to trade for anybody there buddy. Second do you know Chris carr was orginally an undrafted Fa with the raiders.
Third what it means Raiders will probably pick up Tracy Porter in Fa.
[/quote]
Yeah, I know Carr was with the Raiders. That's why I made the joke. Carr is, however, not an URFA. He is under contract with us.

[Raider9175]

[quote name='ravens__' timestamp='1329058510' post='992507']

I never put bets but I really hope someone takes it just to watch you eat crow once all is said and done.
"NOne of the Qbs had the accuracy or threw as well a deep pass as well as Carson Palmer." - If you really believe that, there's nothing more to be discussed here. You, my friend, are oblivious.[/quote]


Raider fan since 1974 and I have seen most of all those qbs on the list. The statement I made is 100% percent accurate about Carson Palmer in comparison to the other Qb's. He might be the best Qb Raiders have every had. R gannon could throw twenty deep passes to Carson Plamer five and he still wouldn't hit more targets than C palmer.

Again anyone wants to take me up with that bet, will be glad to take your cash.

[Raider9175]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1329064896' post='992538']
what are talking about? carr isnt a UFA?[/quote]

Sites i saw he was. Again I'm very familiar with chris carr and lets leave it at that. I wouldn't want chris Carr playing in my secondary.

[Raider9175]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1329062748' post='992529']maybe we could trade him and joe for Carson "strong accurate armed elite tp 10 QB" Palmer[/quote]

You actually have to give a team something they would want back in a trade.(value not pure garbage) That Like the ravens say we will give you Bryant MCkinnie for Jared veldheer. Yea Okay

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329065366' post='992546']
Sites i saw he was. Again I'm very familiar with chris carr and lets leave it at that. I wouldn't want chris Carr playing in my secondary.
[/quote]
well your site is wrong, we signed him (stupidly) to a deal last year, so before your start being sarcastic towards a memeber here... "do you no what a RFA is?" get your facts right

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329065779' post='992552']
You actually have to give a team something they would want back in a trade.(value not pure garbage) That Like the ravens say we will give you Bryant MCkinnie for Jared veldheer. Yea Okay
[/quote]
oh so maybe you want Torrey Smith, Terrell Suggs and Haolti Ngata for Palmer? that sounds about right if he is a top 5/10 qb and the best ever to wear a raiders uniform right? that last part alone will get you suggs and ngata

[JO_75]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329058143' post='992504']
[b]Again you want to put a little bet who is the higher ranked passer next season Carson Palmer or Joe Flacco 58% with a anemic 6.7 yard per pass. [/b]( I don't like tm take advanatge of anyone because that a bet I easy win)

NOne of the Qbs had the accuracy or threw as well a deep pass as well as Carson Palmer. This offense has a chance to be the most explosive offense in the game. Pieces are all there.
[/quote]

Keep rambling on about your fantasy football stats that nobody cares about while Joe will continue leading the Ravens to the playoffs for the one, two, three, four, no that's not it, oh yeah FIFTH straight season. Stats are for the media to hype up, in reality it doesn't matter what the stats say, as long you win games and make the playoffs, it's the only thing that matters. So just like the Steelers.... enjoy being Tebowed next season.

[Raider9175]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1329065953' post='992555']
well your site is wrong, we signed him (stupidly) to a deal last year, so before your start being sarcastic towards a memeber here... "do you no what a RFA is?" get your facts right
[/quote]

[b]Baltimore, MD[/b] - Chris Carr and Haruki Nakamura both say they would like to be back with the Ravens next season, but neither are certain that will be the case.
"I don't know; we'll see," Nakamura said when asked whether he expects to return.
"I might be here, might not be here," Carr said. "Just have to wait and see."
With a deep stable of up-and-coming young cornerbacks, and a special teams unit that struggled at times this season, the two defensive backs may find themselves on other teams next season.
Carr dealt with injuries and dropped down the depth chart late in the season. He missed seven games during the regular season because of back and thigh injuries and started just one game.
He finished the season with 19 tackles, one sack, three passes defended and no interceptions.
Carr signed a reported four-year contract before the 2011 season, but only the first year was guaranteed money, he said, so the Ravens could waive the seven-year veteran in favor of some of the younger cornerbacks like Lardarius Webb, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith and Danny Gorrer.
"I was injured a lot this year and we have a lot of young guys who can play and play well," Carr said. "You just don't know what the future is exactly."

Even Chris carr says he might be waived because only the first year was guaranteed. So IF comes FA and he cut. Than in all purposes he would be a Unrestricted Fa.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329057917' post='992503']
Your ill informed. Raiders are looking at 3 high draft picks when compensation picks are announced. Defintely getting a third for losing Asomugha. (Pick 97) Could get a Third (could be 99 pick of draft) oR fourth for losing Zach miller, and could get a 4, fifth or nothing for losing R gallery.

Again why did raiders lose those picks they got pieces that are their future a year early to lerarn the system.
[/quote]

Those are real high there buddy. I couldn't stand it if we didn't have no picks in the first 97.

You can claim all you like that you got "pieces of the future" but there is absolutely no benefit to having no draft picks. We got pieces of our future last year too, as did every other team. Difference is that we can go looking for more future stars this year but you will struggle to do so.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329071823' post='992600']

[b]Baltimore, MD[/b] - Chris Carr and Haruki Nakamura both say they would like to be back with the Ravens next season, but neither are certain that will be the case.
"I don't know; we'll see," Nakamura said when asked whether he expects to return.
"I might be here, might not be here," Carr said. "Just have to wait and see."
With a deep stable of up-and-coming young cornerbacks, and a special teams unit that struggled at times this season, the two defensive backs may find themselves on other teams next season.
Carr dealt with injuries and dropped down the depth chart late in the season. He missed seven games during the regular season because of back and thigh injuries and started just one game.
He finished the season with 19 tackles, one sack, three passes defended and no interceptions.
Carr signed a reported four-year contract before the 2011 season, but only the first year was guaranteed money, he said, so the Ravens could waive the seven-year veteran in favor of some of the younger cornerbacks like Lardarius Webb, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith and Danny Gorrer.
"I was injured a lot this year and we have a lot of young guys who can play and play well," Carr said. "You just don't know what the future is exactly."

Even Chris carr says he might be waived because only the first year was guaranteed. So IF comes FA and he cut. Than in all purposes he would be a Unrestricted Fa.
[/quote]
yes we would have to cut him... so no he is not a UFA, he is on our roster, so as the guy sarcasticly said, maybe your idiot of an org would trade for him

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329071823' post='992600']

[b]Baltimore, MD[/b] - Chris Carr and Haruki Nakamura both say they would like to be back with the Ravens next season, but neither are certain that will be the case.
"I don't know; we'll see," Nakamura said when asked whether he expects to return.
"I might be here, might not be here," Carr said. "Just have to wait and see."
With a deep stable of up-and-coming young cornerbacks, and a special teams unit that struggled at times this season, the two defensive backs may find themselves on other teams next season.
Carr dealt with injuries and dropped down the depth chart late in the season. He missed seven games during the regular season because of back and thigh injuries and started just one game.
He finished the season with 19 tackles, one sack, three passes defended and no interceptions.
Carr signed a reported four-year contract before the 2011 season, but only the first year was guaranteed money, he said, so the Ravens could waive the seven-year veteran in favor of some of the younger cornerbacks like Lardarius Webb, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith and Danny Gorrer.
"I was injured a lot this year and we have a lot of young guys who can play and play well," Carr said. "You just don't know what the future is exactly."

Even Chris carr says he might be waived because only the first year was guaranteed. So IF comes FA and he cut. Than in all purposes he would be a Unrestricted Fa.
[/quote]
yes we would have to cut him... so no he is not a UFA, he is on our roster, so as the guy sarcasticly said, maybe your idiot of an org would trade for him

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329071823' post='992600']

[b]Baltimore, MD[/b] - Chris Carr and Haruki Nakamura both say they would like to be back with the Ravens next season, but neither are certain that will be the case.
"I don't know; we'll see," Nakamura said when asked whether he expects to return.
"I might be here, might not be here," Carr said. "Just have to wait and see."
With a deep stable of up-and-coming young cornerbacks, and a special teams unit that struggled at times this season, the two defensive backs may find themselves on other teams next season.
Carr dealt with injuries and dropped down the depth chart late in the season. He missed seven games during the regular season because of back and thigh injuries and started just one game.
He finished the season with 19 tackles, one sack, three passes defended and no interceptions.
Carr signed a reported four-year contract before the 2011 season, but only the first year was guaranteed money, he said, so the Ravens could waive the seven-year veteran in favor of some of the younger cornerbacks like Lardarius Webb, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith and Danny Gorrer.
"I was injured a lot this year and we have a lot of young guys who can play and play well," Carr said. "You just don't know what the future is exactly."

Even Chris carr says he might be waived because only the first year was guaranteed. So IF comes FA and he cut. Than in all purposes he would be a Unrestricted Fa.
[/quote]
yes we would have to cut him... so no he is not a UFA, he is on our roster, so as the guy sarcasticly said, maybe your idiot of an org would trade for him

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329071823' post='992600']

[b]Baltimore, MD[/b] - Chris Carr and Haruki Nakamura both say they would like to be back with the Ravens next season, but neither are certain that will be the case.
"I don't know; we'll see," Nakamura said when asked whether he expects to return.
"I might be here, might not be here," Carr said. "Just have to wait and see."
With a deep stable of up-and-coming young cornerbacks, and a special teams unit that struggled at times this season, the two defensive backs may find themselves on other teams next season.
Carr dealt with injuries and dropped down the depth chart late in the season. He missed seven games during the regular season because of back and thigh injuries and started just one game.
He finished the season with 19 tackles, one sack, three passes defended and no interceptions.
Carr signed a reported four-year contract before the 2011 season, but only the first year was guaranteed money, he said, so the Ravens could waive the seven-year veteran in favor of some of the younger cornerbacks like Lardarius Webb, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith and Danny Gorrer.
"I was injured a lot this year and we have a lot of young guys who can play and play well," Carr said. "You just don't know what the future is exactly."

Even Chris carr says he might be waived because only the first year was guaranteed. So IF comes FA and he cut. Than in all purposes he would be a Unrestricted Fa.
[/quote]
yes we would have to cut him... so no he is not a UFA, he is on our roster, so as the guy sarcasticly said, maybe your idiot of an org would trade for him

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329071823' post='992600']

[b]Baltimore, MD[/b] - Chris Carr and Haruki Nakamura both say they would like to be back with the Ravens next season, but neither are certain that will be the case.
"I don't know; we'll see," Nakamura said when asked whether he expects to return.
"I might be here, might not be here," Carr said. "Just have to wait and see."
With a deep stable of up-and-coming young cornerbacks, and a special teams unit that struggled at times this season, the two defensive backs may find themselves on other teams next season.
Carr dealt with injuries and dropped down the depth chart late in the season. He missed seven games during the regular season because of back and thigh injuries and started just one game.
He finished the season with 19 tackles, one sack, three passes defended and no interceptions.
Carr signed a reported four-year contract before the 2011 season, but only the first year was guaranteed money, he said, so the Ravens could waive the seven-year veteran in favor of some of the younger cornerbacks like Lardarius Webb, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith and Danny Gorrer.
"I was injured a lot this year and we have a lot of young guys who can play and play well," Carr said. "You just don't know what the future is exactly."

Even Chris carr says he might be waived because only the first year was guaranteed. So IF comes FA and he cut. Than in all purposes he would be a Unrestricted Fa.
[/quote]
yes we would have to cut him... so no he is not a UFA, he is on our roster, so as the guy sarcasticly said, maybe your idiot of an org would trade for him

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329071823' post='992600']

[b]Baltimore, MD[/b] - Chris Carr and Haruki Nakamura both say they would like to be back with the Ravens next season, but neither are certain that will be the case.
"I don't know; we'll see," Nakamura said when asked whether he expects to return.
"I might be here, might not be here," Carr said. "Just have to wait and see."
With a deep stable of up-and-coming young cornerbacks, and a special teams unit that struggled at times this season, the two defensive backs may find themselves on other teams next season.
Carr dealt with injuries and dropped down the depth chart late in the season. He missed seven games during the regular season because of back and thigh injuries and started just one game.
He finished the season with 19 tackles, one sack, three passes defended and no interceptions.
Carr signed a reported four-year contract before the 2011 season, but only the first year was guaranteed money, he said, so the Ravens could waive the seven-year veteran in favor of some of the younger cornerbacks like Lardarius Webb, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith and Danny Gorrer.
"I was injured a lot this year and we have a lot of young guys who can play and play well," Carr said. "You just don't know what the future is exactly."

Even Chris carr says he might be waived because only the first year was guaranteed. So IF comes FA and he cut. Than in all purposes he would be a Unrestricted Fa.
[/quote]
yes we would have to cut him... so no he is not a UFA, he is on our roster, so as the guy sarcasticly said, maybe your idiot of an org would trade for him

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329071823' post='992600']

[b]Baltimore, MD[/b] - Chris Carr and Haruki Nakamura both say they would like to be back with the Ravens next season, but neither are certain that will be the case.
"I don't know; we'll see," Nakamura said when asked whether he expects to return.
"I might be here, might not be here," Carr said. "Just have to wait and see."
With a deep stable of up-and-coming young cornerbacks, and a special teams unit that struggled at times this season, the two defensive backs may find themselves on other teams next season.
Carr dealt with injuries and dropped down the depth chart late in the season. He missed seven games during the regular season because of back and thigh injuries and started just one game.
He finished the season with 19 tackles, one sack, three passes defended and no interceptions.
Carr signed a reported four-year contract before the 2011 season, but only the first year was guaranteed money, he said, so the Ravens could waive the seven-year veteran in favor of some of the younger cornerbacks like Lardarius Webb, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith and Danny Gorrer.
"I was injured a lot this year and we have a lot of young guys who can play and play well," Carr said. "You just don't know what the future is exactly."

Even Chris carr says he might be waived because only the first year was guaranteed. So IF comes FA and he cut. Than in all purposes he would be a Unrestricted Fa.
[/quote]
yes we would have to cut him... so no he is not a UFA, he is on our roster, so as the guy sarcasticly said, maybe your idiot of an org would trade for him

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329071823' post='992600']

[b]Baltimore, MD[/b] - Chris Carr and Haruki Nakamura both say they would like to be back with the Ravens next season, but neither are certain that will be the case.
"I don't know; we'll see," Nakamura said when asked whether he expects to return.
"I might be here, might not be here," Carr said. "Just have to wait and see."
With a deep stable of up-and-coming young cornerbacks, and a special teams unit that struggled at times this season, the two defensive backs may find themselves on other teams next season.
Carr dealt with injuries and dropped down the depth chart late in the season. He missed seven games during the regular season because of back and thigh injuries and started just one game.
He finished the season with 19 tackles, one sack, three passes defended and no interceptions.
Carr signed a reported four-year contract before the 2011 season, but only the first year was guaranteed money, he said, so the Ravens could waive the seven-year veteran in favor of some of the younger cornerbacks like Lardarius Webb, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith and Danny Gorrer.
"I was injured a lot this year and we have a lot of young guys who can play and play well," Carr said. "You just don't know what the future is exactly."

Even Chris carr says he might be waived because only the first year was guaranteed. So IF comes FA and he cut. Than in all purposes he would be a Unrestricted Fa.
[/quote]
yes we would have to cut him... so no he is not a UFA, he is on our roster, so as the guy sarcasticly said, maybe your idiot of an org would trade for him

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1329071823' post='992600']

[b]Baltimore, MD[/b] - Chris Carr and Haruki Nakamura both say they would like to be back with the Ravens next season, but neither are certain that will be the case.
"I don't know; we'll see," Nakamura said when asked whether he expects to return.
"I might be here, might not be here," Carr said. "Just have to wait and see."
With a deep stable of up-and-coming young cornerbacks, and a special teams unit that struggled at times this season, the two defensive backs may find themselves on other teams next season.
Carr dealt with injuries and dropped down the depth chart late in the season. He missed seven games during the regular season because of back and thigh injuries and started just one game.
He finished the season with 19 tackles, one sack, three passes defended and no interceptions.
Carr signed a reported four-year contract before the 2011 season, but only the first year was guaranteed money, he said, so the Ravens could waive the seven-year veteran in favor of some of the younger cornerbacks like Lardarius Webb, Cary Williams, Jimmy Smith and Danny Gorrer.
"I was injured a lot this year and we have a lot of young guys who can play and play well," Carr said. "You just don't know what the future is exactly."

Even Chris carr says he might be waived because only the first year was guaranteed. So IF comes FA and he cut. Than in all purposes he would be a Unrestricted Fa.
[/quote]
yes we would have to cut him... so no he is not a UFA, he is on our roster, so as the guy sarcasticly said, maybe your idiot of an org would trade for him