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[ThePurpleWall]

It seems,that our GM,wants to sign Ray Rice to long term deal a long with Joe Flacco,rather then Joe Flacco and mr Grubbs, so looks like Mr Grubbs is 3rd on the list,Flacco and Rice first,unless we cant get a long term deal for Ray Rice then we would tag him,if we tag Ray Rice,then that would be interesting for mr Grubbs.
http://blogs.baltimo...-could-get-tag/

Edited by ThePurpleWall, 04 February 2012 - 02:38 AM.

[Purple Punishment]

If we tag Grubbs its only to keep him here for one more solid run

[flynismo]

I would say Webb comes before Grubbs as well

[redrum52]

flynismo, on 04 February 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:

I would say Webb comes before Grubbs as well

Said the same. I feel a corner with his abilities is more valuable than a lineman. Teams are learning the hard way not to throw at Webb.

[ThePurpleWall]

flynismo, on 04 February 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:

I would say Webb comes before Grubbs as well

Id agree,Joe Flacco,Ray Rice,Mr Webb not in any order.

[codizzle]

flynismo, on 04 February 2012 - 02:01 AM, said:

I would say Webb comes before Grubbs as well

I'd say na jut cause Webb is a RFA

[Bosanac]

an*
>.<

imo flacco, rice this year, tag grubbs

next year webb and grubbs get their deals

[codizzle]

Bosanac, on 04 February 2012 - 05:43 AM, said:

an*
>.<

imo flacco, rice this year, tag grubbs

next year webb and grubbs get their deals

Man I'm not even that picky..

But u right on the resigning players part except tagging Grubbs.. Not sure if that's our best bet

[Bosanac]

codizzle, on 04 February 2012 - 05:54 AM, said:

But u right on the resigning players part except tagging Grubbs.. Not sure if that's our best bet

Honestly, I would think they would be better off tagging grubbs than webb, seeing the types of contracts dbs have been getting lately.

Edited by Bosanac, 04 February 2012 - 05:57 AM.

[ravensfan520]

Rice Webb and Grubbs... Flacco is not a free agent yet... I say extend him only if it frees up more money for this year to sign the others.

[codizzle]

Bosanac, on 04 February 2012 - 05:56 AM, said:

Honestly, I would think they would be better off tagging grubbs than webb, seeing the types of contracts dbs have been getting lately.

Webb is a rfa .. There is no situation in which we would tag him or need to tag him..

We give him a tender and he has up to a certain date to sign that tender...
If another team wants to sign him we Have the right of first refusal or if we let him leave (which we definitely would not) we would get a pick equivalent to whatever tender we put on him..

He isn't a UFA that we could just throw a tag on

[Corvus]

Its funny to me everyone is automatically writing off Grubbs just because we already signed Yanda last offseason. Even though the entire interior of our line struggled in the playoffs, Grubbs and Yanda IMO are the guys on our line worth keeping long term. You guys remember how the offense, especially the run game suffered when he was out. Gurode did a solid job all things considered, especially since he had hardly ever played guard in the NFL, but I think Grubbs is way too valuable for us to let go to FA, I'm still honestly disappointed that we let Jason Brown walk in '09, but the Rams offered him the biggest contract I have seen for a center. Grubbs will definitely get offers, but I think our FO can compete if it goes ahead and handles some things like Flacco's new contract (I'm sure his new contract will start with less of a cap hit than the 6+mil he scheduled to make right now) and cutting all the cap space tied up in Foxworth and Carr. We can still protect Webb by putting a 1st +3rd round tender on him, as good as he is no other team is gonna give up those picks for him and we can handle his contract next offseason. If Grubbs accepts a deal similar to Yanda's (which I think he would, he doesn't come across as a greed-mongerer) I really don't see why we wouldn't be able to keep him.

[The Raven]

I don't think Grubbs is irreplaceable, but he will be difficult to replace. I'd like to maintain a little more continuity on the line for more than a season. Also, by letting him go we have another need to fill, and our line could end up in shambles. We have enough needs as it is, and we don't need to add another. Our line is bad enough as it is, we don't need another hole.

He's not irreplaceable, but I don't want to have to pursue the route of finding a replacement.

[BloodRaven]

The impression I get from Grubbs comments is that he wants to test free agency and doesn't see himself as a Raven in the future. If that is the case then I hope he ends up like Jason Brown, a disappointing FA acquisition for a perennial 4-12 team.

[Ravens4Real]

codizzle, on 04 February 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

Webb is a rfa .. There is no situation in which we would tag him or need to tag him..

We give him a tender and he has up to a certain date to sign that tender...
If another team wants to sign him we Have the right of first refusal or if we let him leave (which we definitely would not) we would get a pick equivalent to whatever tender we put on him..

He isn't a UFA that we could just throw a tag on

We don't get a choice to refuse him to leave. That is where we may get jobbed with Webb. All that has to happen is a team offer him a contract that is better than his tender (Last CBA was around $1.9 million and a first and third round pick, but this year we can only do a first). After that the Ravens get the oppurtunity to match that offer.

Some of these teams at the end of the first round, I believe, are going to make a push to give offers to both Webb and Foster and why wouldn't they? These guys are proven players and it would be better to have one of these guys than to take a blind shot in the draft with their number 1 pick.

This is the reason why I believe Grubbs will not be signed. If we were to sign Flacco, Rice and give Grubbs the tag than we would have abolsutely no money left. At that point a team could out bid us on Webb and we wouldn't have the money to match the offer and he would walk.

[gabefergy]

Ravens4Real, on 04 February 2012 - 12:49 PM, said:

We don't get a choice to refuse him to leave. That is where we may get jobbed with Webb. All that has to happen is a team offer him a contract that is better than his tender (Last CBA was around $1.9 million and a first and third round pick, but this year we can only do a first). After that the Ravens get the oppurtunity to match that offer.

Some of these teams at the end of the first round, I believe, are going to make a push to give offers to both Webb and Foster and why wouldn't they? These guys are proven players and it would be better to have one of these guys than to take a blind shot in the draft with their number 1 pick.

This is the reason why I believe Grubbs will not be signed. If we were to sign Flacco, Rice and give Grubbs the tag than we would have abolsutely no money left. At that point a team could out bid us on Webb and we wouldn't have the money to match the offer and he would walk.

Teams rarely make offers for RFAs because not only do you have to sign them to a large contract (to get them away from their team), but then give away an extremely valuable 1st round pick. It's just not smart business to do that.

[Bltravens]

We dont even need to worry about Webb, we'll put the highest possible tender on him for this year. If Flacco and Rice agree to deals it will be huge for cap space, franchise Grubbs for the season see if its possible to sign him. Then work on Webb's contract the following year with the money freed up from Grubbs' franchise tag.

Cake.

[PurpleDrink]

Bosanac, on 04 February 2012 - 05:43 AM, said:

an*
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imo flacco, rice this year, tag grubbs

next year webb and grubbs get their deals

Lol do you know its going cost like 9mil to tag Grubbs....never going to happen when its only like 7 to tag Rice if they cant get a deal done. Only way we keep him if he takes a pay cut with the cap we have.

So in other words we maynot beable to keep him because we paid Yanda over him. Grubbs is 27years old, alot of other teams will be willing to give him alot more money then we can at this point.....Btw no team in the NFL will pay two Guards Yanda type money thats on the same team. One will get the big payday,the other will be let go for a cheap Vetaran which will be a FA.

[scrock]

i thought this was a foregone conclusion since we signed Yanda, i read so many articles that addressed Grubbs will probably not receive a big contract from the Ravens...do u want to tie up that much money in your OL? I think its a crucial position, just as QB is...no blocking, no offense

[The Raven]

scrock, on 04 February 2012 - 03:35 PM, said:

i thought this was a foregone conclusion since we signed Yanda, i read so many articles that addressed Grubbs will probably not receive a big contract from the Ravens...do u want to tie up that much money in your OL? I think its a crucial position, just as QB is...no blocking, no offense

I'm very adamant that the game is won in the trenches. I wouldn't be upset at all if we invested some serious money in the line.