Why the hell are any of you suggesting we put Webb at nickel? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. The guy shut down nearly every receiver he played and got 8 picks in the process. He is easily the number 1 and putting him in the nickel spot would be stupid.
I don't care if Cary and Jimmy aren't fast enough to keep up with those slot receivers. Putting Webb there is a complete waste of talent.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:32 PM
For what its worth, Charles Woodson of the Packers was the best corner they had since he's been there, but he also sees a few snaps at nickel.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:34 PM
He played nickel a lot this season.
Playing in the slot doesn't necessarily mean he's the 3rd-string corner, it means he matches up best against the slot receiver and gives him a great spot to try some CB-blitzes from. Charles Woodson plays a lot of nickel, too.
Of course Webb will still be matched out wide but the ability to play nickel-back is not bad.
Playing in the slot doesn't necessarily mean he's the 3rd-string corner, it means he matches up best against the slot receiver and gives him a great spot to try some CB-blitzes from. Charles Woodson plays a lot of nickel, too.
Of course Webb will still be matched out wide but the ability to play nickel-back is not bad.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:34 PM
When you have guys in the mold of Wes Welker playing the slot, Webb should slide overt the nickel. Otherwise, he won't see the nickel much.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:35 PM
Webb will be put on the teams best reciever. He didn't allow a touchdown this year and is teams #1 CB. There are time he will play the slot-on teams best receiver-like NE Walker. I agree all this talk about nickel is a crazy, he needs to be on field at all times. I really like our CB's. Good size and speed, along with a masher in Pollack.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:49 PM
I cringe everytime someone posts Webb only playing in the slot.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 05:53 PM
A CB being moved to the nickel spot doesn't mean he's being demoted or taken off the field .
And what happens if a team moves its best WR to the slot? Wouldn't we want Webb to follow him? A CB playing the nickel isn't a waste of their talents at all.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:09 PM
you clearly dont understand the game of football. one of webbs best talents is blitzing, if he plays in the slot, it gives our defense so many more different options.. they qb wont know whats happening, it increases the risk of him rushing a pass and throwing an int, or the complete opposite and him holding it too long to get a read on our defense and taking a sack.
No one is by any means saying make him our 3rd CB on the roster, just doing it 3/4 times a game to give different looks so were not predictable and increase our chances of getting a big play.
Teams put there best WR in the slot sometimes, does it mean hes the third WR on the depth chart, hell no, theyre just mixing it up a bit, showing different looks, keeping the opposition honest.
Also Jimmy and Cary on the outside with webb in the slot, is better for the D overall, than Cary in the slot.. Cary and jimmy have a better chance of defending better WRs on the outside, than on the inside.. Why have Webb on the outside if they would just pick on one of them to inn space on a nifty smaller WR like a Wes Welker. Cary or jimmy have a better chance defending Fitz or CJ on the outside, than Wes or a Steve smith (Panthers) on the inside.... if thats of course what the opposition shows us.
No one is by any means saying make him our 3rd CB on the roster, just doing it 3/4 times a game to give different looks so were not predictable and increase our chances of getting a big play.
Teams put there best WR in the slot sometimes, does it mean hes the third WR on the depth chart, hell no, theyre just mixing it up a bit, showing different looks, keeping the opposition honest.
Also Jimmy and Cary on the outside with webb in the slot, is better for the D overall, than Cary in the slot.. Cary and jimmy have a better chance of defending better WRs on the outside, than on the inside.. Why have Webb on the outside if they would just pick on one of them to inn space on a nifty smaller WR like a Wes Welker. Cary or jimmy have a better chance defending Fitz or CJ on the outside, than Wes or a Steve smith (Panthers) on the inside.... if thats of course what the opposition shows us.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:32 PM
arnie_uk, on 02 February 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:
you clearly dont understand the game of football. one of webbs best talents is blitzing, if he plays in the slot, it gives our defense so many more different options.. they qb wont know whats happening, it increases the risk of him rushing a pass and throwing an int, or the complete opposite and him holding it too long to get a read on our defense and taking a sack.
No one is by any means saying make him our 3rd CB on the roster, just doing it 3/4 times a game to give different looks so were not predictable and increase our chances of getting a big play.
Teams put there best WR in the slot sometimes, does it mean hes the third WR on the depth chart, hell no, theyre just mixing it up a bit, showing different looks, keeping the opposition honest.
Also Jimmy and Cary on the outside with webb in the slot, is better for the D overall, than Cary in the slot.. Cary and jimmy have a better chance of defending better WRs on the outside, than on the inside.. Why have Webb on the outside if they would just pick on one of them to inn space on a nifty smaller WR like a Wes Welker. Cary or jimmy have a better chance defending Fitz or CJ on the outside, than Wes or a Steve smith (Panthers) on the inside.... if thats of course what the opposition shows us.
No one is by any means saying make him our 3rd CB on the roster, just doing it 3/4 times a game to give different looks so were not predictable and increase our chances of getting a big play.
Teams put there best WR in the slot sometimes, does it mean hes the third WR on the depth chart, hell no, theyre just mixing it up a bit, showing different looks, keeping the opposition honest.
Also Jimmy and Cary on the outside with webb in the slot, is better for the D overall, than Cary in the slot.. Cary and jimmy have a better chance of defending better WRs on the outside, than on the inside.. Why have Webb on the outside if they would just pick on one of them to inn space on a nifty smaller WR like a Wes Welker. Cary or jimmy have a better chance defending Fitz or CJ on the outside, than Wes or a Steve smith (Panthers) on the inside.... if thats of course what the opposition shows us.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:35 PM
atlravensfan, on 02 February 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:
No I do understand fb(whats up on the ravens boards with people saying you dont know football if you have a different opp then them). I was saying that there are posts on here that say webb should only play slot. in nickel if the best recievered is the slot guy then yes webb should be on him but putting him on the third guy on the depth chart in man coverage is not smart.
I don't think I've read a single post that suggested that.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:41 PM
atlravensfan, on 02 February 2012 - 05:49 PM, said:
I cringe everytime someone posts Webb only playing in the slot.
Webb plays the nickel...wait for it....in our nickel packages. In our base defense he plays on the outside.
Wait for it..... ergo....he plays every snap!
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:47 PM
atlravensfan, on 02 February 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:
No I do understand fb(whats up on the ravens boards with people saying you dont know football if you have a different opp then them). I was saying that there are posts on here that say webb should only play slot. in nickel if the best recievered is the slot guy then yes webb should be on him but putting him on the third guy on the depth chart in man coverage is not smart.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 06:50 PM
I don't think Webb or Carr would be good for us in man to man coverage... I like these guys at Nickel and I think only 1 of those guys will remain the nickel the other will play mainly on the special teams..
Have some faith in Ozzie Newsome because he will add to the
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:02 PM
Playing Slot is also a lot different from a technique standpoint than playing on the outside. In a lot of aspects its more difficult, playing Webb over the slot WR at times is not an indication of his spot on the depth chart, but more of a nod to his over skill at CB. I would rather have an expereinced CB like Webb in the slot than Cary or Jimmy who are more physically attune to playing on the outside.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:46 PM
PurpleReign92, on 02 February 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:
I don't think Webb or Carr would be good for us in man to man coverage... I like these guys at Nickel and I think only 1 of those guys will remain the nickel the other will play mainly on the special teams..
Really? Did you see Webb at all last season? He didn't give up one TD all year. He played phenomenal. He's a true #1 corner.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 07:52 PM
Teams are starting to put their number one receivers in the slot. to combat that, we are simply putting our best cover/blitzing corner in the slot to match up. Webb also has an amazing feel of the snap count. He chooses almost perfect times to bitz time after time.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:37 PM
Corners around the league hate playing slot because the receivers are usually quicker and work high percentage plays, also nickel corners can't use the sideline.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 08:51 PM
PurpleReign92, on 02 February 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:
I don't think Webb or Carr would be good for us in man to man coverage... I like these guys at Nickel and I think only 1 of those guys will remain the nickel the other will play mainly on the special teams..
I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous. Webb should play against the #1 WR of the other team, whether they are in the nickel or backfield. I am being facetious about the backfield, by the way. We won't be playing Chris Carr 3.5mil to be on special teams to catch punts or returns or whatever.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:08 PM
Webb is like a 80% version of an old Ed Reed, so he'll be alll over the place as a DB, so like anie_uk mentioned he is a distraction to the opposing QB, and that's y he got int from Houston and from NE. He is just a beast at covering and blitzing, created by Ed Reed.
When Webb reaches his prime, he will be 80% of a young Ed Reed which I will be ecstatic and drooled, thinking about it......
In addtion, I'm waiting for a true student coming out of Lewis' classroom; if he get 80% power of a young verion of Ray Lewis, the Ravens nation is blessed.....
When Webb reaches his prime, he will be 80% of a young Ed Reed which I will be ecstatic and drooled, thinking about it......
In addtion, I'm waiting for a true student coming out of Lewis' classroom; if he get 80% power of a young verion of Ray Lewis, the Ravens nation is blessed.....
Edited by AsianRice, 02 February 2012 - 09:11 PM.
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Posted 02 February 2012 - 09:12 PM
Webb is such an exceptional talent, I just want us to sign him long term. His play on the field progressed so much this season, I firmly believe he is one of the best cover corners in the NFL right now, and BY FAR the most underrated.
He is the one player that has soaked in everything Ed Reed has taught him, hes the Ball Hawk Junior. He studies film so much and you can see his intelligence on the field, none of his interceptions were luck. Every pick was him diagnosing the play, making the read and jumping the route. He stays healthy and continues to progress into his prime years the sky is the limit for this guy, he will lead the league in picks. Another key thing about him is hes a converted Safety .. So if we have to or when the day comes when can put him at Free Safety and he could be that next guy back there.
He is the one player that has soaked in everything Ed Reed has taught him, hes the Ball Hawk Junior. He studies film so much and you can see his intelligence on the field, none of his interceptions were luck. Every pick was him diagnosing the play, making the read and jumping the route. He stays healthy and continues to progress into his prime years the sky is the limit for this guy, he will lead the league in picks. Another key thing about him is hes a converted Safety .. So if we have to or when the day comes when can put him at Free Safety and he could be that next guy back there.
Edited by TDubbs, 02 February 2012 - 09:27 PM.
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