It's Confirmed: Long Term Deal To Be Worked On With Joe Flacco

[ThePurpleWall]

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thoughts.

[HaX]

excited!

[wolfpack]

It just confirms what we all knew was coming. Looking forward to the result!

[FerrariFan87]

6 years, $80M with $35M guaranteed; $250k bonus per playoff win; $500k bonus per Super Bowl win... that should get it done.

[Ravens Fan in Ontario]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1328133341' post='982061']
6 years, $80M with $35M guaranteed; $250k bonus per playoff win; $500k bonus per Super Bowl win... that should get it done.
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Way too much of a contract. I don't see the Ravens making that kind of offer. That's an Eli type deal and that's AFTER he won a Superbowl.

6 years, 70M with 32M guaranteed would be my best guess.

[IMissMattStover]

6 years 55 Mil, 28 guarenteed. Thats my guess. I would like it to be higher, but he has to "prove" himself by winning the Lombardi.

[Ravens Fan in Ontario]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1328134404' post='982097']
6 years 55 Mil, 28 guarenteed. Thats my guess. I would like it to be higher, but he has to "prove" himself by winning the Lombardi.
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I think you went a bit far the other way. You have to at least put him in a bit better price range than Cassel, Kolb and Fitzpatrick who are around 63M. 4 Straight years of at least 1 playoff win will carry some weight.

[Alexir]

[quote name='Ravens Fan in Ontario' timestamp='1328133927' post='982085']
Way too much of a contract. I don't see the Ravens making that kind of offer. That's an Eli type deal and that's AFTER he won a Superbowl.

6 years, 70M with 32M guaranteed would be my best guess.
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Yeah I agree with this. Don't wanna over pay, but still making more than Kolb, Fitz or Cassel. 3 guys he is better than. He doesn't deserve Eli Money.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1328134974' post='982112']
Yeah I agree with this. Don't wanna over pay, but still making more than Kolb, Fitz or Cassel. 3 guys he is better than. He doesn't deserve Eli Money.
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They're going to have to overpay some if they want Flacco to sign with Cam still around IMO. Incentives aren't going to carry a lot of weight with him here. Yes, it's only my opinion but I'll be surprised if Flacco is willing to sign on the cheap.

[flynismo]

6 years, $72M, with $30M guaranteed. I think this contract will place a heavy emphasis on incentives.

[cursona pirate]

Aw man he is staying!? Flacco sucks!!!!
lol

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='Ravens Fan in Ontario' timestamp='1328134945' post='982111']
I think you went a bit far the other way. You have to at least put him in a bit better price range than Cassel, Kolb and Fitzpatrick who are around 63M. 4 Straight years of at least 1 playoff win will carry some weight.
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I think it carries weight for sure, but I don't think that he will get everything that he deserves.

[Alexir]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1328135319' post='982120']
6 years, $72M, with $30M guaranteed. I think this contract will place a heavy emphasis on incentives.
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Sounds like we are all around the same price.

[atlravensfan]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1328135389' post='982123']


I think it carries weight for sure, but I don't think that he will get everything that he deserves.
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LOL you guys are the first to support him then low ball the dog poo out of him ln a contract. Fans are funny(including myself)

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='atlravensfan' timestamp='1328135774' post='982138']
LOL you guys are the first to support him then low ball the dog poo out of him ln a contract. Fans are funny(including myself)
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Dont get me wrong, I think he deserves a heck of a lot more, I am just saying that I dont know how well the FO will take him into consideration. I am making a conservative guess, and if I am too low, all the better for Joe.

[atlravensfan]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1328133341' post='982061']
6 years, $80M with $35M guaranteed; $250k bonus per playoff win; $500k bonus per Super Bowl win... that should get it done.
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That sounds more like it. I would say 40mil guaranteed. He might not go for the deal after what Mike vick got from the eagles. Play out his current deal then let 6 or so teams bid for him when he throws 30 or more tds next season with Jim Caldwell as his qb coach.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1328135703' post='982136']
Sounds like we are all around the same price.
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Yep, unfortunately for Joe, stats play a pretty big role in these things. I actually think his contract will be slightly lower -- probably in the $66M range, but I'm leaning towards him getting a little extra if he agrees to a structure that is more cap friendly

[Alexir]

He is elite, he said it himself, we need to give him 120 million dollars! lock him up!

Ugh, I don't like how they basically said "Grubbs is great but we might move on" in the presser. That left side is going to get beat like a drum and Rice will struggle because the line will be battered.

[atlravensfan]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1328135888' post='982142']


Dont get me wrong, I think he deserves a heck of a lot more, I am just saying that I dont know how well the FO will take him into consideration. I am making a conservative guess, and if I am too low, all the better for Joe.
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I agree the front office will offer him the deal you said but he might not take it and play out his deal

[flynismo]

[quote name='atlravensfan' timestamp='1328135774' post='982138']
LOL you guys are the first to support him then low ball the dog poo out of him ln a contract. Fans are funny(including myself)
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This FO knows how to pay the absolute minimum for a player. It's not about what we think Joe is worth, it's what we think he will actually get.

[IMissMattStover]

To be honest, at least to a middle class guy like me, arguing over 5 million seems petty. I would take the $50 mil or whatever it is and be grateful for it. Its millions of freaking dollars.

[makaha]

What ever the case may be, there will be a massive incentive for that Lombardi.

[wolfpack]

[quote name='atlravensfan' timestamp='1328136011' post='982146']
That sounds more like it. I would say 40mil guaranteed. He might not go for the deal after what Mike vick got from the eagles. Play out his current deal then let 6 or so teams bid for him when he throws 30 or more tds next season with Jim Caldwell as his qb coach.
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Jim C will probably help Flacco a little bit, but Cam is still calling the plays, so i don't know how much Jim C will help Flacco's TD rate

[atlravensfan]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1328135888' post='982142']


Dont get me wrong, I think he deserves a heck of a lot more, I am just saying that I dont know how well the FO will take him into consideration. I am making a conservative guess, and if I am too low, all the better for Joe.
[/quote]

I agree the front office will offer him the deal you said but he might not take it and play out his deal

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1328136154' post='982155']


This FO knows how to pay the absolute minimum for a player. It's not about what we think Joe is worth, it's what we think he will actually get.
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Exactly. We chose what he deserves. They choose the minimum they can get away with.

[flynismo]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1328136186' post='982156']
To be honest, at least to a middle class guy like me, arguing over 5 million seems petty. I would take the $50 mil or whatever it is and be grateful for it. Its millions of freaking dollars.
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Not me, I'd go for every penny I can get in this situation. Starting up charities, donating to existing ones, giving back to the community, ensuring the welfare of my children's children all cost money.

[atlravensfan]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1328136186' post='982156']
To be honest, at least to a middle class guy like me, arguing over 5 million seems petty. I would take the $50 mil or whatever it is and be grateful for it. Its millions of freaking dollars.
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LOL yeah it does sound silly but these guys are on a whole nother level. I guess it would br the difference between maybe 40k to 42k lmao

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1328136367' post='982167']

Not me, I'd go for every penny I can get in this situation. Starting up charities, donating to existing ones, giving back to the community, ensuring the welfare of my children's children all cost money.
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Yeah, if you plan on using it for the benefit of society, not blowing it on booze and hookers etc. Also, thats not to say that Joe does that, but to a guy making for example 50 mil a year, 5 mil more isnt that much in terms of spending money to burn. Those with noble intentions I am fine with fighting for every penny.

[atlravensfan]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1328136478' post='982174']


Yeah, if you plan on using it for the benefit of society, not blowing it on booze and hookers etc. Also, thats not to say that Joe does that, but to a guy making for example 50 mil a year, 5 mil more isnt that much in terms of spending money to burn. Those with noble intentions I am fine with fighting for every penny.
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Greatest post ever!

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='atlravensfan' timestamp='1328136548' post='982176']
Greatest post ever!
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Is that serious or sarcasm??? /