Is Boldin Still A Legitimate 1 Reciever?

[Ravenz52]

He never was a legitimate 1 receiver. He played the 2 position all during his Nfl career including his time with Fitz. Dont get me wrong. Boldin is a great receiver, but he saw alot of single coverage in Arizona because their number 1, Fitz was receiving double teams.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Ravenz52' timestamp='1327968949' post='980154']
He never was a legitimate 1 receiver. He played the 2 position all during his Nfl career including his time with Fitz. Dont get me wrong. Boldin is a great receiver, but he saw alot of single coverage in Arizona because their number 1, Fitz was receiving double teams.
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And what about the 3 odd years before FItzgerald got there?

[da#1ravensfan]

He was now I think he is more of a complementary receiver paired with a speedy #1 receiver

[da#1ravensfan]

[quote name='Ravenz52' timestamp='1327968949' post='980154']
He never was a legitimate 1 receiver. He played the 2 position all during his Nfl career including his time with Fitz. Dont get me wrong. Boldin is a great receiver, but he saw alot of single coverage in Arizona because their number 1, Fitz was receiving double teams.
[/quote] He was a great #1 receiver even the year before fitz got there because Boldin rookie year he caught 103 balls for over 1300 yards and made the Pro Bowl.

[RavenousBG]

Sure he is. He's in a system that doesn't feature him and if not for an injury he would have led the team in yards and receptions. He plays all the positions. He knows how to get open and can make catches while seeming covered. Boldin just doesn't have elite speed so eyepopping long plays are few and far between.

In my book he is a legitimate number one. But the question is what is a number one in your book.

When Chris Carter was with Randy Moss, who was the number one?
Most like to say Randy Moss but Randy was pretty much one dimensional. Carter didn't have the deep speed but he ran every route and moved the chains. He was the number one. I think Boldin is a lot like Chris Carter but shorter and a little slower but he is more physical.

He's a number one.

[The Raven]

[quote name='RavenousBG' timestamp='1327970595' post='980191']
Sure he is. He's in a system that doesn't feature him and if not for an injury he would have led the team in yards and receptions. He plays all the positions. He knows how to get open and can make catches while seeming covered. Boldin just doesn't have elite speed so eyepopping long plays are few and far between.

In my book he is a legitimate number one. But the question is what is a number one in your book.

When Chris Carter was with Randy Moss, who was the number one?
Most like to say Randy Moss but Randy was pretty much one dimensional. Carter didn't have the deep speed but he ran every route and moved the chains. He was the number one. I think Boldin is a lot like Chris Carter but shorter and a little slower but he is more physical.

He's a number one.
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If he was on a different team I'd be more inclined to agree. Cam's system squanders his ability. Put him on the Pats, Saints, or Pack and he'd deliver.

[-Truth-]

I don't see how Boldin isn't our top WR, especially with the strong finish he had to his 2011 campaign. He may not be a #1 by league standards, in comparison to the likes of Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald. And it's quite obvious that Anquan doesn't gain much separation on vertical routes, which was never his forte to begin with. However, that doesn't mean he isn't capable of coming down with the reception on long balls in tight coverage should Joe decide to throw one up. In fact, I feel that it's one of his most underutilized strengths, which was clearly put on display several times during the games against the Texans (Playoffs) and Cardinals. Our WR corps struggled mightily during the 2 games Q was sidelined. While he still has several things to work on, i.e. the uncharacteristic amount of drops, I personally trust Boldin to win his fair share against the opposing teams best CB. Until that falters, I won't discount his ability on the field.

[bmoreravens1fan]

Yes, Boldin is a beast. Enough said lol

[redrum52]

Like others have said if used properly. He had good games when moved around as he should be. Start calling more creative routes and run plays that work to he players strong suits while also trying to get them open. Cam just needs to run or create a better offense tailored to his personnel.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

To put it in the most simple way possible..

No.

[shootyoup]

[quote name='Ravens Fan in Ontario' timestamp='1327872147' post='978811']
Q is a very good WR. He's one of the best Slot WR's. He isn't and never was a #1 WR. He came to Baltimore and was the #1 WR, but he wouldn't be a #1 most anywhere else.

He played with a #1 in Fitzgerald and had great seasons with the Cards. Playing with Johnson or Johnson he'd have amazing seasons. He hasn't flourished as much in Baltimore because there isn't a true #1!
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He was a beast before Larry even got to the league. Larry is the superior WR, but his presence shouldn't diminish what he has accomplished. The man had 1,300 yards and 8 touchdowns in his rookie season. We got far less production out of T. Smith and many of us feel he is going to be a No. 1. IMO Boldin has definitely been a top receiver over his career.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1327969143' post='980157']
And what about the 3 odd years before FItzgerald got there?
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Just one season. But he'd be much more effective if he was used the way they used him in Arizona.

[Mr. GM]

Your question "Is Boldin Still A Legitimate 1 Receiver?" is about a few years past due. Lets break this down. Boldin is more of 1b or 2. He thrives in a system that has a legitimate 1 receiver(for example when he was with the Cardinals/Fitzgerald). Torrey Smith is close to being a 1 but still working on his hands. Bring in rookie Tommie Streeter to be the Ravens version of Andre Johnson. Let Boldin play out his contract and keep it moving.



P.S. I almost spelled receiver wrong.

[Ray Ray Ravens]

Do we need a true #1 receiver? If we can put a bunch of 2's almost 1's on the field that would make it difficult for the defense to figure out who you are throwing to considering they already know the play. Just use what we have in a way that makes sense for that player. Its a long shot I know but maybe Caldwell will bring in some fresh Ideas.

[Ravenseconbeast]

I am praying we do not waste our time to get Vincent Jackson. He has zero work ethics, has no drive, and he wants to get paid big time. No thanks.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Ray Ray Ravens' timestamp='1328027008' post='980588']
Do we need a true #1 receiver? If we can put a bunch of 2's almost 1's on the field that would make it difficult for the defense to figure out who you are throwing to considering they already know the play. Just use what we have in a way that makes sense for that player. Its a long shot I know but maybe Caldwell will bring in some fresh Ideas.
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That's a good question. A number 1 would be a great help, but you don't really need a true number 1 receiver if you have a lot of guys that can play well. The problem is though, that they're only effective when they're on the field, and given that Cam is allergic to 3 WR sets and, it seems, almost deathly afraid of 4 and 5 wide receiver sets, having a number 1 would really help here - unless Cam changes his ways. If he continues to run the same 2 WR set over and over again, it doesn't matter what talent you have on the bench.

[Ed_Reed20]

He's definitely lost burst, quickness and speed(not that he was that fast anyway) since his days as a Cardinal. But it's been an absolute joke how often he's been asked to go deep in his time here, while rarely seeing screens, passes out of a bunch formation or being put in motion for a short pass in the red-zone.

Just because he's no longer a "legitimate #1" doesn't mean he can't be more effective.

[Suggs Package]

I hate to sound stupid, but what is the true definition of a #1 receiver? Do you mean the top option on our team or someone who can constantly beat coverage and command double teams?

On our team, Boldin is the number 1 receiver, but in terms of having elite ability, there's only maybe about 15 or so receivers in the NFL who are true #1s and Boldin isn't it, but close. In terms of production, both Boldin and Torrey are about the 20-25 best WRs in the NFL in my opinion. Not many teams have two WRs as good as ours besides teams like GB, Pitt, Dallas, Philly and NYG.

[scrock]

man when Boldin came into the league he broke records, at one time he was a #1

come on, he was a beast

....he is like a #2 now at best now tho

[RayRiceRunningfortheRavns]

he works well as our #1 because he can catch in traffic. Our receivers have issues getting open, oh well Boldin doesn't need to be open, he'll just go up and over the CB and come down with the ball. Good enough for me to say he's a legitimate #1 receiver.

[scrock]

I was a Boldin fan as soon as he hit his rookie year, I dont follow college sports so I had never heard of him....but man he was like what Gronk is now, Boldin's physical nature works both ways tho good and bad, I think unless he's a true warrior like Ray Lewis or some crazy stuff his body is feeling those hits

[jdynamite]

[quote name='ryanpatt28' timestamp='1327866766' post='978725']
I feel like he would make such a bigger impact on games if you put him in the slot so him and flacco can work the middle of the field more. Whenever a team puts their number 1 corner on him he doesnt really have a big impact because hes not fast enough to get separation so they just pin him against the sidelines. I think we need to get flacco a big fast tough physical number 1 reciever to take him and this offense to the next level. It would also help our redzone woes too, we have no1 that flacco can throw a lob to in the endzone, Do you guys agree with me? Which free agent would fit best on this team that you think ozzie might go after. Dont give me vincent jackson either because we know hell be to expensive and the chargers arent going to let him go so who should it be?
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First of all, Please Edit your Title and this post because Receiver is spelled wrong just write WR, not trying to be rude lol....
About Boldin Kurt Warner was on NFLN all year screaming for The Ravens to move Boldin to Slot because in Arizona they primarily let him play in the slot or motion to the slot so that he could have option routes to exploit the coverage and get open ( basically what Welker and V. Cruz ) have done so successfully this season... Boldin has always been a tough physical WR that gets lots of YAC... This is one of the many reasons I'm upset that Cam Cameron is back but maybe he will watch the 4th qtr vs the Pats and light will come on inside his head like "heyyy when I put him in the slot Ederman checked him and torched this defense ".... The Seattle game was a game that drove me over the edge as I watched Boldin line up against unknown CBs to that point Browner and whom ever else, they were big, physical and Slow CBs but every pass play Boldin was lined up on the outside running 10 yd curls, 10 yd outs, streaks down field, so every passed basically saw blanket coverage because those big corners abused the WRs.. Cameron never made the adjustment smh...

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1328106477' post='981521']

First of all, Please Edit your Title and this post because Receiver is spelled wrong just write WR, not trying to be rude lol....
About Boldin Kurt Warner was on NFLN all year screaming for The Ravens to move Boldin to Slot because in Arizona they primarily let him play in the slot or motion to the slot so that he could have option routes to exploit the coverage and get open ( basically what Welker and V. Cruz ) have done so successfully this season... Boldin has always been a tough physical WR that gets lots of YAC... This is one of the many reasons I'm upset that Cam Cameron is back but maybe he will watch the 4th qtr vs the Pats and light will come on inside his head like "heyyy when I put him in the slot Ederman checked him and torched this defense ".... The Seattle game was a game that drove me over the edge as I watched Boldin line up against unknown CBs to that point Browner and whom ever else, they were big, physical and Slow CBs but every pass play Boldin was lined up on the outside running 10 yd curls, 10 yd outs, streaks down field, so every passed basically saw blanket coverage because those big corners abused the WRs..[b] Cameron never made the adjustment smh...[/b]
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And this, to me, is the biggest reason why Q hasn't been as effective in Baltimore as he was in Arizona.

[flynismo]

+1 for spelling his name right. It rarely happens

[FerrariFan87]

Boldin would have #1 numbers if Cam actually utilized his talents correctly... he continues to misuse him, and it's really, really frustrating.

[SilverMyst]

you Have to Ask this Question after next year Because most of last year he was playing with a injury....now that he is According to him 150% better and he feels no pain while running.... we'll just have to see how he does this next season....I'm guessing He will Be a Great Player.... If he does better this next season then he did this season (cinsidering he did very well with the injury that he said was holding him back) He should be one of the reasons we make it to the playoffs next season....

[jdynamite]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1328111201' post='981580']


And this, to me, is the biggest reason why Q hasn't been as effective in Baltimore as he was in Arizona.
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Lol