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[flynismo]

Key players I think we will retain in FA:

1. Webb
2. Grubbs
3. Rice
4. Gurode

Key FA departures:

1. Jarrett Johnson
2. Redding
3. Foxworth (released)
4. Birk (retirement)

I feel that retaining Gurode is an overlooked aspect of FA -- although I am not overly impressed by him, at the very worst, he can be a solid stop gap for the next year or two. At best, he could even regain his Pro Bowl form. Either way, by resigning Gurode, it will allow us to focus on other areas of need, and we can put off finding a long term center until next year.

With these resignings / departures, I feel our most important needs (immediate and long term) are as follows:

1. OT
2. DE
3. ILB
4. WR
5. depth on the OL

Now, on to the draft (I'm only doing the first 5 rounds, since nobody really gives a hoot about anything after that).


Round 1
(you already know who this is!)

Mike Adams, OT



Wish you could clone JO and bring him back? Here's the next best thing! Not only is he a JO look alike off the field (6'8" 320lbs), on the field, his run blocking skills will bring back memories of the legendary #75.
Pure dominance as a run blocker, and a very solid pass blocker who has improved each year in Ohio State. This guy will anchor the left side of our line for the next 10 years.


Round 2
Dwight Jones, WR


Yes, I know he looks like Omar with braids (The Wire fans know what I'm talking about).
But there is not a more perfect fit for this offense in this draft class outside of the Big 2 recievers.
His size makes him dangerous in the red zone and a perfect compliment to Torrey long term. And as an added bonus: we all know how much Cam loves to send huge physical guys on fly routes. Here's a guy who is actually good at them!!
The next Vincent Jackson right here.


Round 3
Bobby Massie, OT


After getting blindsided by taking Oher in the 1st round of 2009, I'm hesitant to select another OT from Ole Miss, but this kid has WAY too much upside not to take at the back of the 3rd round. He may be the steal of the draft for us, and if Oher doesn't play like a stud next year, this kid will take over for him.
Get it done, Ozzie!


Round 5
Bernard Pierce, RB



We desperately need a compliment to Ray Rice, and Sir-Smokes-Alot will probably hang up the cleats after this season.
Enter Temple's Bernard Pierce, who is one of the more overlooked running backs in this class. He is a bruiser who does not offer much as a recieving option, but he won't be here to catch passes. He's here to get those short yards, and bang up defenses for Rice to devour later in the game.
A very good RB who would probably start as a rookie for a lot of teams, I love this pick this late.

[izvoodoo]

I'm sorry Fly but I can't jump on board with anyone here besides Mike Adams. We have Jah, so I'm confident we have at least one RT. No center, and no linebackers.

[flynismo]

the heck with LB that wont even see the field lol...
I like this because we more or less fixed the OL and added another dangerous weapon for Flacco to throw to...our offense may actually start realizing it's potential!!

[arnie_uk]

Adams impressed in the Senior bowl, maybe i was wrong lol. I like a WR at two, thats what i want our first two picks to be, LT and WR, in any order.
In third id rather pick up blake , brewster, jones, or valchos, one of them will be there, we need depth at center more than tackle. We would have Mckinnie, Adams, Oher and Reid.. we dont need a fifth in my opinion.

Then in 5th round, can just go any way. Hard to prdeict that far down.

So like first two, not sold on the third, but obviously if the plan atm is not to resign oher, it may be good to double dip

[flynismo]

Adams impressed in the Senior bowl, maybe i was wrong lol. I like a WR at two, thats what i want our first two picks to be, LT and WR, in any order.
In third id rather pick up blake , brewster, jones, or valchos, one of them will be there, we need depth at center more than tackle. We would have Mckinnie, Adams, Oher and Reid.. we dont need a fifth in my opinion.

Then in 5th round, can just go any way. Hard to prdeict that far down.

So like first two, not sold on the third, but obviously if the plan atm is not to resign oher, it may be good to double dip

I'm with you on Blake, I love him, but I really dont think he'll last til the end of the third round. But hypothetically if he did, I'd take him.

As for Oher, I'd be surprised if we moved him, only because we are stubborn when it comes to our 1st rounders. But obviously he is struggling, and bringing in a possible stud that will either light a fire under Oher or just flat out take the job from him would be the ideal scenario.

I like Jah, but I honestly dont think he'd be a significant upgrade over Oher.

Now someone tell Adams to start dogging it, before too many teams start realizing how good he is

[arnie_uk]

I'm with you on Blake, I love him, but I really dont think he'll last til the end of the third round. But hypothetically if he did, I'd take him.

As for Oher, I'd be surprised if we moved him, only because we are stubborn when it comes to our 1st rounders. But obviously he is struggling, and bringing in a possible stud that will either light a fire under Oher or just flat out take the job from him would be the ideal scenario.

I like Jah, but I honestly dont think he'd be a significant upgrade over Oher.

Now someone tell Adams to start dogging it, before too many teams start realizing how good he is

unless on eof the top NTs are there when the steelers pick then need tackles desperatly, they will probably draft him.

I duno why the moved up for Reid, doesnt make sense to me to just go out an get another guy the following year. they obvisouly think something of him

[Sizzlebshu]

Key players I think we will retain in FA:

1. Webb
2. Grubbs
3. Rice
4. Gurode

Key FA departures:

1. Jarrett Johnson
2. Redding
3. Foxworth (released)
4. Birk (retirement)

I feel that retaining Gurode is an overlooked aspect of FA -- although I am not overly impressed by him, at the very worst, he can be a solid stop gap for the next year or two. At best, he could even regain his Pro Bowl form. Either way, by resigning Gurode, it will allow us to focus on other areas of need, and we can put off finding a long term center until next year.

With these resignings / departures, I feel our most important needs (immediate and long term) are as follows:

1. OT
2. DE
3. ILB
4. WR
5. depth on the OL

Now, on to the draft (I'm only doing the first 5 rounds, since nobody really gives a hoot about anything after that).


Round 1
(you already know who this is!)

Mike Adams, OT



Wish you could clone JO and bring him back? Here's the next best thing! Not only is he a JO look alike off the field (6'8" 320lbs), on the field, his run blocking skills will bring back memories of the legendary #75.
Pure dominance as a run blocker, and a very solid pass blocker who has improved each year in Ohio State. This guy will anchor the left side of our line for the next 10 years.


Round 2
Dwight Jones, WR


Yes, I know he looks like Omar with braids (The Wire fans know what I'm talking about).
But there is not a more perfect fit for this offense in this draft class outside of the Big 2 recievers.
His size makes him dangerous in the red zone and a perfect compliment to Torrey long term. And as an added bonus: we all know how much Cam loves to send huge physical guys on fly routes. Here's a guy who is actually good at them!!
The next Vincent Jackson right here.


Round 3
Bobby Massie, OT


After getting blindsided by taking Oher in the 1st round of 2009, I'm hesitant to select another OT from Ole Miss, but this kid has WAY too much upside not to take at the back of the 3rd round. He may be the steal of the draft for us, and if Oher doesn't play like a stud next year, this kid will take over for him.
Get it done, Ozzie!


Round 5
Bernard Pierce, RB



We desperately need a compliment to Ray Rice, and Sir-Smokes-Alot will probably hang up the cleats after this season.
Enter Temple's Bernard Pierce, who is one of the more overlooked running backs in this class. He is a bruiser who does not offer much as a recieving option, but he won't be here to catch passes. He's here to get those short yards, and bang up defenses for Rice to devour later in the game.
A very good RB who would probably start as a rookie for a lot of teams, I love this pick this late.

I don't see this draft happening like this, but I like it. I don't think you can neglect to pick an ilb in it tho. Its almost certain now with Ray staying another year Ozzie will bring someone in for him to teach and groom and play next to him.

Other thing is your round 5 pick seems like kind of a waste to me. Anthony Allen looked to be a very good north/south runner in the pre-season (yes its pre-season I know) and he showed at least some ability to catch the ball. Allen would seem like a wasted pick if we used pick 5 on Bernard. I think another big body receiver would go here or a DE for depth.

Edited by Sizzlebshu, 29 January 2012 - 02:27 PM.

[The Raven]

Other than the RB pick, I love this mock. I would like either a center or an ILB in that spot.

I love how this draft would (hopefully) solidify the offense. It would complete the OL except center, supply us with OL depth, and it would give Flacco a nice new toy.

[gabefergy]

Sorry, Fly but I dont like this draft at all. Mike Adams is nice, but he struggles in pass-pro against speed rushers. I'm not against taking an OT but I would rather grab one later like you did in the 3rd.

This mock doesnt address ILB at all which I think is a very big need. Do you have McClain coming back? Personally I think we should trade back into the 2nd round and try to recoup a 4th rounder. Take Dont'a Hightower and a Center (maybe Philip Blake out of Butler).

I dont like Dwight Jones, he has bust written all over him. Not a good route runner and struggles to gain separation. Not much explosiveness.

I really like Bernard Price, but I dont see RB as that big of a need with Ant Allen and Damien Berry waiting in the wings. If we do go after a RB I would like to have one that can contribute in the return game.

[JO_75]

Wow... I can't believe how much Adams looks like JO a bit. Unfortunately, as much as I would love to get Adams, it just won't happen. His stock will be too high come April and with the Ravens already not having a 4th round pick, trading up for him isn't going to happen. He'll either be a Lion or Steeler or some team in the Top 10 trades back up for him.

[flynismo]

Wow... I can't believe how much Adams looks like JO a bit. Unfortunately, as much as I would love to get Adams, it just won't happen. His stock will be too high come April and with the Ravens already not having a 4th round pick, trading up for him isn't going to happen. He'll either be a Lion or Steeler or some team in the Top 10 trades back up for him.

Lets just pray that Reiff and Martin have a big offseason, and/or someone else shoots up the draft boards like Tyron Smith did last year! Never underestimate the stupidity of the teams drafting in the top 10 -- more often than not, that is the reason they are drafting so high in the first place!

But honestly, I would not be surprised to see us trade UP this year to snag a guy -- and not necessarily Adams, it could be anyone that the team is high on (would anyone be surprised if we traded up to grab a guy like Floyd, Martin or Reiff if they were lingering around at #20 or so?). Maybe we would do the same with Adams if the FO is as high on him as I am.

[Jamal]

I love the OT picks. We could use all the o-lineman we could get with Cam's offense.

But in your own words, whats the point of drafting a player who wont even see the field? (Jones) Our offense rarely uses more than 2 WR's. And with Smith, Boldin, Doss, possibly Evans, Jones would be buried in the depth chart. I absolutely love Jones as a prospect, but I've been kind of turned off with the whole of idea of even drafting a WR, if Cam is sticking around.

Other than that, I'd be pretty happy with this draft.

I think you are severely overrating Gurode. The guy got pushed around in Dallas, and pushed around here. If he is our starting center, with no one reliable behind him, we are deeply screwed. He is washed up and a shell of his former self. Hes nothing more than a back-up at this point in his career.

[flynismo]

I think you are severely overrating Gurode. The guy got pushed around in Dallas, and pushed around here. If he is our starting center, with no one reliable behind him, we are deeply screwed. He is washed up and a shell of his former self. Hes nothing more than a back-up at this point in his career.

Maybe I am giving Gurode more credit than he deserves -- I'm not a fan of his either, and hoping that he won't be a liability may be asking too much. But my reasoning is that I'd rather have a weak link at center (Gurode) than at OT (Oher).

But you do bring up a very good point about drafting Jones with Cam staying here. Jones won't see much playing time as a rookie, and maybe not til Boldin retires or moves on. Which makes me mad!! Boldin, Torrey, Jones and Doss -- you'd think that even Cam couldn't screw that up!

[baltravens]

Key players I think we will retain in FA:

1. Webb
2. Grubbs
3. Rice
4. Gurode

Key FA departures:

1. Jarrett Johnson
2. Redding
3. Foxworth (released)
4. Birk (retirement)

I feel that retaining Gurode is an overlooked aspect of FA -- although I am not overly impressed by him, at the very worst, he can be a solid stop gap for the next year or two. At best, he could even regain his Pro Bowl form. Either way, by resigning Gurode, it will allow us to focus on other areas of need, and we can put off finding a long term center until next year.

With these resignings / departures, I feel our most important needs (immediate and long term) are as follows:

1. OT
2. DE
3. ILB
4. WR
5. depth on the OL

Now, on to the draft (I'm only doing the first 5 rounds, since nobody really gives a hoot about anything after that).


Round 1
(you already know who this is!)

Mike Adams, OT



Wish you could clone JO and bring him back? Here's the next best thing! Not only is he a JO look alike off the field (6'8" 320lbs), on the field, his run blocking skills will bring back memories of the legendary #75.
Pure dominance as a run blocker, and a very solid pass blocker who has improved each year in Ohio State. This guy will anchor the left side of our line for the next 10 years.


Round 2
Dwight Jones, WR


Yes, I know he looks like Omar with braids (The Wire fans know what I'm talking about).
But there is not a more perfect fit for this offense in this draft class outside of the Big 2 recievers.
His size makes him dangerous in the red zone and a perfect compliment to Torrey long term. And as an added bonus: we all know how much Cam loves to send huge physical guys on fly routes. Here's a guy who is actually good at them!!
The next Vincent Jackson right here.


Round 3
Bobby Massie, OT


After getting blindsided by taking Oher in the 1st round of 2009, I'm hesitant to select another OT from Ole Miss, but this kid has WAY too much upside not to take at the back of the 3rd round. He may be the steal of the draft for us, and if Oher doesn't play like a stud next year, this kid will take over for him.
Get it done, Ozzie!


Round 5
Bernard Pierce, RB



We desperately need a compliment to Ray Rice, and Sir-Smokes-Alot will probably hang up the cleats after this season.
Enter Temple's Bernard Pierce, who is one of the more overlooked running backs in this class. He is a bruiser who does not offer much as a recieving option, but he won't be here to catch passes. He's here to get those short yards, and bang up defenses for Rice to devour later in the game.
A very good RB who would probably start as a rookie for a lot of teams, I love this pick this late.

I would like to go in a different direction for round one and secure a center if the prospect is there that the organization likes. The fact that Gurode is not getting any younger beckons to address the interior of the OL.

[RoflDogs]

Ugh, I don't like Dwight Jones as a prospect at all. I have a feeling he'll fall a lot on draft day. He's realllllyyyy slow (especially laterally), doesn't run good routes, will have trouble separating, and won't contribute very early in the NFL.

If we are going with a developmental WR, I'd rather go with Brian Quick. Dude is going to be a beast.

But my favorite non top-5 receiver in this draft is Criner. He's a little stiff at the hips, but he's still pretty shifty and fast vertically. He has pretty good hands and is very tough running the ball.


And we really need to pick up an ILB in the draft, whether it be Burfict or somebody like Audi Cole. McClain and Ellerbe aren't going to cut it

[Baltimore Ravens #1 Fan]

No addressing the pass rush? Our sack total went up this season but Suggs had a great individual season and we played some teams with terrible or young offensive lines. The Steelers and Rams offensive lines come to mind the most. Suggs is the only one that gets constant pressure and is in on every down. I think we need another dynamic player like Suggs and Ngata that can get to the quarterback on every down; not just 3rd down and play the run. If a great Center or Inside Linebacker (Konz, Burfict, Kuechly, Hightower) isn't there in the 1st round I think we should be looking at someone like Melvin Ingram, Whitney Mercilus or Courtney Upshaw.

[Bltravens]

You listed ILB as your #3 priority and then didn't even take one Fly lol.


In the words of mili.....smh

Edited by Bltravens, 29 January 2012 - 04:46 PM.

[arnie_uk]

no point reaching for a guy just because its a need, we dont do that, and if it means hes gone by your next pick so be it.. thats how i feel on ILB, i wouldnt go for burfict or hightower in the first, if they are there when we pick again, bingo.

[gregreid5]

I like adams but the ret of the draft is poor. We dont need a WR, RT or RB. I would much rather see a C, LB, or safety

[SecretAgentMan]

I like adams but the ret of the draft is poor. We dont need a WR, RT or RB. I would much rather see a C, LB, or safety

Same. Let me fix it a little.
Round one is fine.
Round 2. Vinny Curry. Pees is known to convert olb's to MLB's. So this is one hell of a bargin, because if we can't convert him, he is still a good prospect at OLB.
Round 3. Brewster. We need a center.
Round 5. Agreed, I was at the Eagle Bank Bowl in 09. Pierce was killing UCLA before he got hurt. He is a a good prospect.
Round Six. Donte Paige-Moss- Another potential pass rusher. Could be really good in the future if he cleans up his act.
Round Seven. Mychal Kendricks- Undersized, but so was Ray. Could be a steal.