Pitta > Dickson

[wolfpack]

[quote name='MLGWL20' timestamp='1327952336' post='979797']
I think the only reason Pitta looks better is because of the chemistry between him and Flacco. They're best friends and they're always the first guys out on the field warming up, running routes, etc...

Dickson already said he's going to be their 3rd wheel this offseason, that plus a full training camp to work with Joe I think we are going to see Dickson on that all-star level next year.
[size=5][b]800-1200 yrds 12+ TDs[/b][/size]

I love Pitta though, more 2 TE sets please.
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What about all of our other recievers? Thats a lot of yards to a TE who share the plays with Pitta. What about Rice, you would probably need to cut his carries to around 12-15 per game then.

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1327801468' post='978275']
Pitta and Dickson are both nice young TE's , Pitta is consistent... That's what's appealing about him. Pitta is still a better blocker, IMO !
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He's a better blocker in pass protection, he's not nearly the run blocker Dickson is though.

[MLGWL20]

[quote name='wolfpack' timestamp='1327952732' post='979810']

What about all of our other recievers? Thats a lot of yards to a TE who share the plays with Pitta. What about Rice, you would probably need to cut his carries to around 12-15 per game then.
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He had around 530 this year and if he held on to a few of those drops he could've easily had 600+. Another 300-400 yards would only be 25 more yards and 2 or 3 catches a game, not really that much.

[wolfpack]

Just don't see it happening. Heap only had above 800 yards twice in his career and never above 900. His highest TD total in a season was 7. And he was better than Dickson is now.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Dickson is the big play guy, Pitta is Mr. Reliable. I have been really impressed with both, like PItta slightly better, and I expect a great future for each.

[H8R]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1327952958' post='979814']

He's a better blocker in pass protection, he's not nearly the run blocker Dickson is though.
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How often do we ask TE's to run block.....?

[20ravens52]

[quote name='wolfpack' timestamp='1327948463' post='979732']
Gronk was not a 1st round pick. He was picked one spot before Dickson. And Hernandez was picked one spot before Pitta (if I remember correctly)
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Actually to clarify, Gronk was picked more than a full round ahead of Dickson. (42nd pick and the 70th pick)

[MLGWL20]

[quote name='wolfpack' timestamp='1327953634' post='979830']
Just don't see it happening. Heap only had above 800 yards twice in his career and never above 900. His highest TD total in a season was 7. And he was better than Dickson is now.
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That's how I see Pitta, a guy who's not going to put up those big numbers but is always there on 3rd down, and loved for it. To me Dickson has way more potential for the big plays and numbers. Plus Ed has a better QB and is surrounded by better skilled players than Heap ever was. Heaps numbers weren't ever big cause of those horrible 75/25 run pass teams he was on, this team should move the ball pretty easily. But that's on Cam

[wolfpack]

[quote name='20ravens52' timestamp='1327954166' post='979849']

Actually to clarify, Gronk was picked more than a full round ahead of Dickson. (42nd pick and the 70th pick)
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Ha well yeah, looks like im getting old didn't remember correctly then.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='wolfpack' timestamp='1327948463' post='979732']
Gronk was not a 1st round pick. He was picked one spot before Dickson. And Hernandez was picked one spot before Pitta (if I remember correctly)
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Gronk was picked one spot ahead of Kindle. You're right about Hernandez being one spot before Pitta.

Dickson's drops are maddening but I'm excited that he's going to work with Flacco and Pitta a lot this offseason.

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1327953795' post='979836']


How often do we ask TE's to run block.....?
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Well the point is on 1st and ten if Dickson is in the defense will think run, and if we do run we'll be more effective.

[Suggs Package]

TEs do block a lot, its one of their primary jobs depending on the offense. Dickson is a better pass and run blocker than Pitta at this point. He's also faster and more agile, which alllows him to get to his blocking assignments better and be a homerun threat on any play. He also has more experience playing TE.

Pitta however is the better receiver. You gotta remember that Pitta has been a wide receiver most of his football life and was converted into a Tight End his second year of college, hence the better route running and ball skills.

If you combined the two, we'd have the best TE in the NFL, but since we don't have a DNA lab at the Castle, I think you play them both situationally and not worry about who starts. But since we pass slightly more than we run, Pitta should be out there just a little bit more in my opinion.

[H8R]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1327955588' post='979893']

Well the point is on 1st and ten if Dickson is in the defense will think run, and if we do run we'll be more effective.
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I get your point but i don't really think we saw much of Pitta until later in the season, he had limited chances to prove if he could or couldn't run block. I really think Pitta will be the better player for us going forward and I feel he'll certainly prove hes a capable blocker.
Heap was a horrible blocker until the Harbaugh Era, Pita could likely follow the same road.

Dickson may be blessed with more athletic ability but Pitta is blessed with great hands and MUCH better at fining holes in the defense and exploiting them, he also seems to be more inteligent judging from his decision making on the field.

[RavensDE]

Under Cameron no one seems to get open. Joe still puts the ball in there for tough catches. Tough catches that Boldin can make, tough catches that Pitta can make. Dickson can be great but until he is Pitta is our go to guy for the touch catch.

(Can someone please get open? -Ok Torrey Smith gets open sometimes...)

[RavensDE]

Wait a minute...Pitta may struggle with the blocking but Dickson isn't any better. In fact I'm pretty sure Pitta has the edge there (thought that was what Harbaugh said some time ago). Wilson is our run block TE. (Furthermore Leach is the dead givaway for a run...and if not he's not much of a pass threat. Love the guy but strategically we dont fool anyone when he's in.)

[The Raven]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1327953795' post='979836']


How often do we ask TE's to run block.....?
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Idk, maybe every snap they are in on a run play. Maybe this is why our stretches and perimeter runs didn't work.

[da#1ravensfan]

Go to Pitta in the clutch and Dickson for big explosive plays down the field. Thats why we have two of them.

[RavenousBG]

More reliable so yes but Dickson has a lot of potential if he can get those hands right. I trust Pitta more and so does Joe.

[redrum52]

Simple question, when is the last time you saw Pitta drop a pass? Next season open competition but if it looks even give Pitta the nod. I feel both of them are good young tes though.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1327972893' post='980239']
[u][b]Simple question, when is the last time you saw Pitta drop a pass?[/b][/u] Next season open competition but if it looks even give Pitta the nod. I feel both of them are good young tes though.
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if it is not over or under thrown or way out of reach....but....placed right in his hands? ummm...can't remember! that cat has a great set of hands and seemingly catches everything!

play the man!

~Mili

[Yum Chickens]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1327906319' post='979223']

Either you have good hands or you don't, Dickson doesn't.
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Right, just like Torrey Smith.

[display name]

I take Dennis Pitta. Ed Dickson is classy and OK, but Pitta and QB Joe Flacco have a great relationship. Dickson has serious drop issues, unlike Pitta. Pitta's a play-maker. Dickson doesn't make as many plays.

[kiwi_raven]

pitta rocked the Chu, pitta wins by a mile, plus the guy has hands of glue

[gabefergy]

[quote name='RavensDE' timestamp='1327961640' post='980039']
Wait a minute...Pitta may struggle with the blocking but Dickson isn't any better. In fact I'm pretty sure Pitta has the edge there (thought that was what Harbaugh said some time ago). Wilson is our run block TE. (Furthermore Leach is the dead givaway for a run...and if not he's not much of a pass threat. Love the guy but strategically we dont fool anyone when he's in.)
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You're right about Leach being a dead give-away for the run. Sometimes we use play-action, but not enough IMO.

I disagree about Dickson vs Pitta in run-blocking. At least to me its pretty apparent that Dickson is a better blocker in this aspect and it's probably why he is considered the "Starter". PItta is still our there a lot especially on 3rd downs, but I would like to see more plays designed specifically for him.

I still want to see us run more out of the 2 TE formation, but thats a separate gripe.

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='Yum Chickens' timestamp='1327974263' post='980267']

Right, just like Torrey Smith.
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He doesn't either.

[display name]

[quote name='da#1ravensfan' timestamp='1327970267' post='980183']
Go to Pitta in the clutch and Dickson for big explosive plays down the field. Thats why we have two of them.
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Yeah we like going to Dickson in big, explosive downfield plays. But he always dropps the ball.

[PainKiller]

I don't understand Dickson. Maybe its a nerves thing, but he's made some crazy catches with really good coverage (like in San Diego and against Pitt) but drops it when he's wide open (Jets,Bengals,Browns,Pats). With that said, I like Pitta better now. More reliable, but the competition can only make both of them better.

[cobrajet]

I think Dickson is serious about building a rapport with Joe as soon as next season starts and we will have two very good tight ends in Baltimore.

[grantkyle2003]

I think Pitta was more consistent when they called upon him this year honestly. I think pitta wasnt afraid to lay out for a catch for joe and thats important for a quarterback to know he has someone other then boldin to roll with. I say give them all off season to get better and compete in OTA's and then make a decision in training camp.

[Ray Ray Ravens]

Last season I would say Pitta is better hands down when we needed him. This will be a new season and we have all seen the flucuation players can have from year to year. Hopefully Dickson busts out the Jergens and softens those hands up so we can have 2 reliable TEs. Thats what im hoping for so everyone is a threat and not a dead give away in certain situations.