Dean Pees

[tctony]

Lets talk about the Ravens' new defensive coordinator.

What do we know about him? What was his play calling like in New England?

[rlh445]

Apparently the New England D was pretty good under Pees. I haven't personally looked up the stats, just what I've heard around the forums.

[wayne]

Wonder why the Pats let him go and it was sort of like he was demoted to a LB coach?

[Alexir]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1327702254' post='976802']
Wonder why the Pats let him go and it was sort of like he was demoted to a LB coach?
[/quote]
Took medical leave because he had a bad reacation to a certain kind of Ashtma medication.

[tctony]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1327702254' post='976802']
Wonder why the Pats let him go and it was sort of like he was demoted to a LB coach?
[/quote]

He said in the press conference that he wasn't fired. His contract was up and he wanted to explore other avenues.




[quote name='rlh445' timestamp='1327702122' post='976795']
Apparently the New England D was pretty good under Pees. I haven't personally looked up the stats, just what I've heard around the forums.
[/quote]

Hearing this too. Top 10 in points allowed all 4 seasons under him. Set their franchise record in 2006. We've always been more talented on D than the Pats so it should be good to see what he can do with us.

[True]

The players call him "Coach K" and the K is supposed to stand for knowledge so it seems like he's highly intelligent with a good understanding of complex defensive schemes which is +1 for a Ravens defense that likes to use exotic looks.

I don't know what kind of scheme he runs persay and I want to see how the personell on defense shapes up with the draft and FA. I think it's too early to determine whether he'll be good or bad.

[bauer77]

Yeah it seems like from what I've seen on twitter, the guys are pretty excited about this. I know he did good as the Pats DC, so maybe it won't be much of a change from Pagano. Who knows though i guess.

[T-ray]

Coach Pees always fielded a top 5 D in New England. The year after, with about the same level of talent, they dropped to bottom 5-10 D. And this year they got even worse. That should tell you all you need to know.

[Token]

I don't know. I'm hearing from a lot of Patriots fans that he was just like Greg Mattison in that he played a conservative style of defense. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[MiselisM]

I've heard the same thing Token is hearing.. But as mentioned, there is clearly more talent on this Ravens defense.

[AsianRice]

Dean Pees has great resume and is very intelligent football coach; he surely help our defense to move up to the next level. With the personels, current players, and drafted players, he will make our defense looked even scarier.

This year, we will come back to the top and be ready to play in the postseason.

PS: *facepalmed*Cam's comeback.....

[AsianRice]

[quote name='Token' timestamp='1327704536' post='976861']I don't know. I'm hearing from a lot of Patriots fans that he was just like Greg Mattison in that he played a conservative style of defense. I guess we'll have to wait and see.[/quote]
sore Pats fans are still hurt when Pees decided not to return; if he is like Mattison, why their defense ranked top 5 under his helm? The Pats defensive players are not nearly half talented as ours.

I don't trust anything from the Pats' fans; his record shows how competent he is......

[ratedr]

I don't trust anything from Pats fans. What do they know about defense? The players are excited and that's all I need to know.

[CalvinSmoke]

Well he did run a lot of zones back then. That's why Asante Samuel had such great years as a Patriot, because reactive zones is what he does best. Ed Reed may flourish in this defense. But idk

[RavensFanInCA]

[quote name='AsianRice' timestamp='1327705173' post='976878']
sore Pats fans are still hurt when Pees decided not to return; if he is like Mattison, why their defense ranked top 5 under his helm? The Pats defensive players are not nearly half talented as ours.

I don't trust anything from the Pats' fans; his record shows how competent he is......
[/quote]

In the two years under Mattison, we were 3rd best in PPG both years, and 3rd and 10th in YPG. He might've been conservative, but Ravens were still top 5 defenses.

[The Raven]

[quote name='CalvinSmoke' timestamp='1327706908' post='976933']
Well he did run a lot of zones back then. That's why Asante Samuel had such great years as a Patriot, because reactive zones is what he does best. Ed Reed may flourish in this defense. But idk
[/quote]

I'm iffy on that. Webb, Cary, and Jimmy's strong suits are in man, in my opinion.

[Bltravens]

Pees isn't like Pagano at all, not the same approach to defenses in the least. Pees wont mix alot of defensive fronts, twist or stunts with the Dline. He isn't very creative with the Dline, not like Pagano is. Pees is however pretty adept at mixing coverages on the back end. If I had to compare Pees to someone it would be to Mike Nolan. Nolan runs a textbook 34 defense, nothing crazy with zone blitzing or overloading.

[ravensdfan]

I'll withhold judgement at the moment, however, my gut feeling from everything I know of this guy and everything I've seen from him says he is another Mattison. I expect yet another year of the 3 man rush.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

Patriots fans were saying the guy likes to play his corners 20 yards off. lol

[GrimCoconut]

The 3 man rush can be effective. Look at what the Patriots did to us with a 3 man rush. If you have the personnel it is effective. I also don't think Pees forgets about Suggs like Mattison.

We'll have to see. I know nothing of Pees except his stats with NE.

[GrimCoconut]

The 3 man rush can be effective. Look at what the Patriots did to us with a 3 man rush. If you have the personnel it is effective. I also don't think Pees forgets about Suggs like Mattison.

We'll have to see. I know nothing of Pees except his stats with NE.

[raybaby]

I don't know how I feel about this. Under Mattison we blew a lot of leads... so if his approach is anything like that I won't be happy. We'll see.

[The Raven]

[quote name='raybaby' timestamp='1327720679' post='977243']
I don't know how I feel about this. Under Mattison we blew a lot of leads... so if his approach is anything like that I won't be happy. We'll see.
[/quote]

You could make a case that we lost those leads due to the inability of the offense to score though. And, we have a much more complete defense than we did under Mattison.

[Ravenslifer]

Well this is the way I look at it. Peas was effective in New England with less defensive talent. He saw what Mattison did here and what Pagano did here, and I'm sure he saw the clear difference in effectiveness in both of their approaches. I think he has a pretty good idea of what will work here and what won't.

[SecretAgentMan]

Great, so this guy keeps us in contention because he will do wonders for our D. We probably have much more talent than the NE D back then. Now checklist to see

Replace Pagano-Check
Solidify ourselves as one of the four best teams in the leauge-Check
Beat Pitsburgh twice- Check
Unleash the rookies- Check
Get back ol Ray Rice- Check
Get rid of Cam-

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[RavensAllTheWay]

I'm with whoever it was that said the scheme may not fit our CBs very well. Cary and Jimmy are physical guys, and we saw this past season that they can be had when giving up zones and allowing experienced WRs to make their moves. Don't leave young, big, physical CBs on their own islands unless they can get up in their opponents faces.

[strngplyr]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1327706598' post='976925']
I don't trust anything from Pats fans. What do they know about defense? The players are excited and that's all I need to know.
[/quote]

You know that NE was a defense first football team until around 2006, correct? And they fielded a very solid defense until 2008, correct? It is also a pretty big myth that Baltimore was 'far more talented' on D up until around 2009 when all of NE's vets retired or were traded.

[flynismo]

Wow, never seen this little fanfare for the arrival of a new DC.

[flynismo]

Here's some things on him that will hopefully get everyone excited about this guy being in charge of our defense:

- [color=#333333]In 2008, the Patriots allowed 19.3 points per game despite using 22 different starters on defense, including four rookies.[u] Pees' 2008 defense ranked second in the NFL in forced three and out percentage (30.6) and helped give the offense the second best average starting field position in the NFL[/u].[/color]

[color=#333333]- [/color][color=#333333]In 2007, the Patriots defense allowed 274 points, marking the fourth time in the previous five seasons (since 2003) that New England has allowed fewer than 275 points in a season. [u]The 2007 Patriots ranked fourth in the league in yards allowed per game (288.3), the fewest allowed by a Patriots defense in 28 years, and second in the league in sacks (47)[/u]. The Patriots defense sent three starters to the Pro Bowl (LB Mike Vrabel, NT Vince Wilfork and CB Asante Samuel).[/color]
[color=#333333]*** For the people worried about him being overly conservative -- take note of those 47 sacks. ***[/color]

[color=#333333]- [/color][color=#333333]In his first season as defensive coordinator in 2006, [u]Pees' defense set a franchise record for points allowed per game, giving up an average of just 14.81 points per opponent[/u]. [u]The New England defense was fourth in the NFL in takeaways and first in opponents' fourth down conversion percentage. The Patriots defense was also second in the league in opponent passer rating[/u]. Pees' defense steadily improved over the course of the season, and remained in the NFL's top 10 in total defense for the entire second half of the season. [u]The Patriots finished second in the league in points allowed in 2006[/u].[/color]


As the LB coach in NE:

[color=#333333]- [/color][color=#333333]In 2005, [u]Pees tutored a Patriots linebackers unit that featured three of the defense's top five tacklers and accounted for 22 of the team's 33 sacks[/u]. Mike Vrabel transitioned from outside linebacker to inside linebacker during the season and paced the team with a career-high 114 tackles (80 solo), while Rosevelt Colvin's 73 tackles (49 solo) marked the second highest total of his career and placed fourth on the team. Tedy Bruschi, who missed the first six games of the season while recovering from a stroke, placed fifth on the team with 72 tackles (38 solo) despite playing in just nine games.[/color]
The contributions of the linebackers in the second half of the 2005 season were a key reason the Patriots were able to clinch the AFC East title by recording six wins in a seven-week span over the final two months of the season. During the month of December the Patriots shut down the run, [u]allowing just 31.3 rushing yards per game[/u]. The effort helped to produce four straight December wins, including a 28-0 shutout over Tampa Bay on December 17 to claim the AFC East crown. Additionally, [u]New England allowed just 10 total points over a three-game December span[/u], marking the fewest points allowed over any three games in team history.

- Pees marked a solid first season in the NFL in 2004, mentoring a linebackers unit that produced three of the team's top four tacklers. [u]The Patriots defense ranked sixth in the NFL against the run, while New England linebackers recorded 27.5 quarterback sacks[/u]. Tedy Bruschi finished second on the team in tackles (128), and fellow starters Ted Johnson (112) and Vrabel (76), finished third and fourth, respectively. Outside linebacker Willie McGinest, also a starter in the Patriots' 3-4 alignment, paced the team with 9.5 sacks. Bruschi, in his ninth NFL season, earned his first Pro Bowl selection.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1327760531' post='977534']
Wow, never seen this little fanfare for the arrival of a new DC.
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I think people are afraid that because he knew Mattison and because Mattison was a part of the reason he came here that he will be like him. Also, people seem to get the impression that he will be Return of the Mattison from reports out of New England.

Personally, I'm excited to see what he brings. His stats look good, that's for sure.