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Lardarius Webb's Future?

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As most of us knows, Lardarius Webb has emerged as a true #1 CB, which goes for a premium. As much as I want Lardarius Webb to stay with the team, I think his future might be grim. First of all, he's a restricted free agent, who will go for at least a 1st and a 3rd rounder. However, I feel teams with multiple first rounders will not even think twice to trade alway their draft picks for Webb. Not only that, these teams have plenty of cap space, which goes against us. I believe that the Bengals or the Patriots will give up their 1st rounder + a 3rd round pick for a true CB #1 and also outbid our matching price for Webb.

Cincinatti Bengals' draft picks:
17th & 21st Overall (1st Rounders)
If the Bengals were smart, they would give up the picks because a true #1 CB trumps a rookie CB. Also, CB is a need and they have a lot of cap space to fill up. Therefore, the Bengals' might be a reasonable spot. However, I think Ozzie is going to use leverage to increase the offer to the 17th pick and their 2nd round pick.


New England Patriots' draft picks:
27th & at least 30th pick (1st Rounders)
Patriot's defense was bad, but they saw what Webb did against them. They got two 1st rounders, two 2nd rounders, two 3rd rounders. They will package a good deal to take a #1 CB. Draft picks are great, but star defensive players are better, since they can build around them.

If the Patriots and Bengals were smart, this is the time to get their star corner because there's not a lot of choices for stud cornerbacks from their draft spot. I think Ozzie is going to use leverage between the Patriots and Bengals to get the maximum price for Webb. With multiple 1st round picks, I think we can a LB (Vontaze Burfict, Dont'a Hightower, Zach Brown), a O-line men (Peter Konz, Mike Adams, Cordy Glenn), a offensive weapons (Mohammed Sanu, Michael Floyd, Alshon Jeffrey), young CB (Dre Kirkpatrick, Alfonzo Dennard, Chase Minnifield).

Yes, I know losing Webb is going to hurt, but Ozzie made a great pick and can trade that 2008 3rd rounder for high value.

Also, I think our team might see a changing of the guards from a defensive oriented team to a offensive one. We have a Franchise Qb, a Franchise RB, key pieces in all offensive position, and also a defense that is loaded with youth, talent, and veterans. Jimmy Smith, Cary Williams, Chris Carr, Danny Gorrer, and Chykie Brown will have to be the next man up.
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I dont think you even understand how valuable Webb is for Ravens defense. Just watch the one game where webb was absent this season and see what see what Cary Williams/Jimmy/Gorrer performed.
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Won't happen, a good corner isn't worth a 1st and 3rd round pick. Teams wouldn't give up a 1st and 3rd for any corner in the NFL not named Revis.
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I think I word it wrong.

Restricted Free Agency:

Any team can give a qualifying offer sheet to Webb. And we have 7 days to match that price. I doubt we are going to keep Webb when teams like the Bengals give him an offer of 9+ million per year. Therefore, our best bet is to raise his draft price up. However, the maximum we can tender Webb is a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder, which the Bengals can afford. I was think about maybe another team like the Patriots are interested in bidding too, thus we might be able to trade Webb for higher price.
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In addition, I doubt we have enough cap space to keep Webb, Rice, Grubbs, and Flacco to new contracts. Therefore, someone has to walk.
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Good Cornerbacks are rare commodities in this passing league. Probably the most important position to have on defense this age.

You don't let Webb go--he is young and had a breakout year in his third season and didn't give up a single TD. His ceiling has yet to be reached imo and that makes him a player worth holding onto.
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I'm pretty certain the "high tender" is no longer valid... You sure about the first and third?
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[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1327632980' post='975320']
I think I word it wrong.

Restricted Free Agency:

Any team can give a qualifying offer sheet to Webb. And we have 7 days to match that price. I doubt we are going to keep Webb when teams like the Bengals give him an offer of 9+ million per year. Therefore, our best bet is to raise his draft price up. However, the maximum we can tender Webb is a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder, which the Bengals can afford. I was think about maybe another team like the Patriots are interested in bidding too, thus we might be able to trade Webb for higher price.
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The maximum we can tender is a 1st rounder, the new CBA changed it. Bengals have bigger needs than another star CB. And i don't think the Pats would give up a 1st for Webb.

I don't think he would demand top dollar just yet. Even if he does, i think we would match it. Top CB's are a dime a dozen. And he would be one of leader's on our defense after Ray and Ed retire.
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[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1327632980' post='975320']
I think I word it wrong.

Restricted Free Agency:

Any team can give a qualifying offer sheet to Webb. And we have 7 days to match that price. I doubt we are going to keep Webb when teams like the Bengals give him an offer of 9+ million per year. Therefore, our best bet is to raise his draft price up. However, the maximum we can tender Webb is a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder, which the Bengals can afford. I was think about maybe another team like the Patriots are interested in bidding too, thus we might be able to trade Webb for higher price.
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I love Webb but he is not worth 9 million a year and no team, especially the notoriously cheap Bengals, would pay him that salary...
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[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1327632980' post='975320']
I think I word it wrong.

Restricted Free Agency:

Any team can give a qualifying offer sheet to Webb. And we have 7 days to match that price. I doubt we are going to keep Webb when teams like the Bengals give him an offer of 9+ million per year. Therefore, our best bet is to raise his draft price up. However, the maximum we can tender Webb is a 1st rounder and a 3rd rounder, which the Bengals can afford. I was think about maybe another team like the Patriots are interested in bidding too, thus we might be able to trade Webb for higher price.
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Okay, WE know how talented Webb has become. It hasn't hit the rest of the NFL yet though, including players and coaches or he would have received at least a couple pro bowl votes, which he did not.

I might be in denial here but I honestly don't see any team offering Webb a $9 million deal right now. I think we offer as much as we can afford and sign him before the rest of the world sees what we see.
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[quote name='cursona pirate' timestamp='1327632625' post='975307']
lets not trade Webb. How about that?
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I like this answer,and mr Webb will be a Raven for a long time.
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Dude, do you remember what our defense looked like last year without a lockdown CB?? People gave Mattison crap, but not having a reliable corner was a big reason our defense was the way it was.
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I think I know what you mean dude.
I dont think we should trade him though, but I could see a team willing to give up their first for him!
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[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1327633161' post='975326']
I'm pretty certain the "high tender" is no longer valid... You sure about the first and third?
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You're right, the 'first and third' tender was scrapped under the new CBA.

Regardless, we'd have to be nuts to let him go.
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[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1327632684' post='975310']
I dont think you even understand how valuable Webb is for Ravens defense. Just watch the one game where webb was absent this season and see what see what Cary Williams/Jimmy/Gorrer performed.
[/quote] yea but at the same time that san diego defense is real tough to cover. Even with ladarius in the game, i think we still would of been torched. Not nearly as bad but i think we still would of. Dont get me wrong though.. ladarius is a beast.
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Lardarius was too integrel to this defense for Ozzie to let him go anywhere... In a very short time he has proved his worth on the field and will just continue to improve... I do believe other teams have noticed the talent... Their scouts knew coming into games that Lardarius was not where they wanted to go... He doesn't have the big name yet, but that is coming... The only fear would be him getting stolen by Pags and I don't see Indy having the cap space to pay him...
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[quote name='Azmo' timestamp='1327665339' post='975511']
Lardarius was too integrel to this defense for Ozzie to let him go anywhere... In a very short time he has proved his worth on the field and will just continue to improve... I do believe other teams have noticed the talent... Their scouts knew coming into games that Lardarius was not where they wanted to go... He doesn't have the big name yet, but that is coming... [b]The only fear would be him getting stolen by Pags[/b] and I don't see Indy having the cap space to pay him...
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Unless he wants want to cripple the Colts before coaching a game, Pags can't steal him.
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Lardarius is one of my favorite players on this team and we all love him. Ozzie is not letting him go anywhere.
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Not a lot of guys I would let go from this team but I assure you Webb is on the untouchable list. I rather see Grubbs go then him and thats saying something because Grubbs is a beast.

We will be able to sign Webb when we cut Foxworth and Carr. Man id be so happy to be rid of those pretenders....
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first off, its only a first round tender, or a second, no more 1st and thirds, secondly, i cant remeber the last time a team stole a RFA, its very rare, a 1st round pick is a big risk yes, but it could also turn your franchise around, teams dont like doing it, so i dont think any one will try to steal him.

U understand what your saying though, if someone does try, we dont really stand a chance
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