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Candidates For Defensive Coordinator

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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1327535269' post='973670']
Anyone up for a Defensive Scheme Change? 3-4 to 4-3?
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not until Ray Lewis retires would i even consider it, he would have to cover far more ground... I Dont think 4-3 works unless you have an elite line.. you also cant disguise your plays as well, you can give them more looks in the 3-4
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1327534268' post='973607']


Well I hope it's the Dick Lebeau type... content with being a Defensive Coordinator and never leaves.
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Lebeau tried the head coach thing.... The browns IIRC
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I heard it's our Linebacker coach on an interim basis. I'm still just sad. Greg Mattison lost his job (which he deserved to) and we kept Cam. Now Pagano left us for one of Baltimore's most hated teams. Did we just not make him any offers? Right now I'm just inclined to think Harbaugh doesn't care about Defense. I know I'm talking dumb now, but this just sucks.
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One of my reasons for Singletary is a little selfish too. One, I think what he would bring to the Ravens defense is huge. Talk about a DC who would attack .. attack .. attack.

But also, and I don't want this to come out wrong but can't think of another way to say it, after what happened with the 49ers and how far the 49ers went right after he was replaced, I don't think anyone is going to give him a HC look for some time.
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1327534268' post='973607']

Well I hope it's the Dick Lebeau type... content with being a Defensive Coordinator and never leaves.
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Yes sir! I wish that wouldve been Rex back in the day.
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[quote name='ghost1986' timestamp='1327535629' post='973693']
I heard it's our Linebacker coach on an interim basis. I'm still just sad. Greg Mattison lost his job (which he deserved to) and we kept Cam. Now Pagano left us for one of Baltimore's most hated teams. Did we just not make him any offers? Right now I'm just inclined to think Harbaugh doesn't care about Defense. I know I'm talking dumb now, but this just sucks.
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you cant block a move like that, nothing we can do really, if it was another DC job we can block it, but with a HC gig on the line, no way the man passes it up, would you turn down a promotion for double possibly triple the salary. Its a job for him, like our jobs is for us..
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[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1327535606' post='973691']
Lebeau tried the head coach thing.... The browns IIRC
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Bengals.

[quote name='ghost1986' timestamp='1327535629' post='973693']
I heard it's our Linebacker coach on an interim basis. I'm still just sad. Greg Mattison lost his job (which he deserved to) and we kept Cam. Now Pagano left us for one of Baltimore's most hated teams. Did we just not make him any offers? Right now I'm just inclined to think Harbaugh doesn't care about Defense. I know I'm talking dumb now, but this just sucks.
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Mattison didn't lose his job, he took one at Michigan. Pagano was under contract for awhile, its not like we let him walk in free agency. The way the NFL works is a coach can interview for a job higher than his current one at any point in time he chooses to do so.
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Favorite post from Colts forums on the hire of Pagano:

"From a coaching stand point I PRAY he doesn't bring Cam Cameron. He is awful."

Least favorite post(s) so far:

"I would like to see Lardarius Webb come over with Pagano. Baltimore has Rice and Ben Grubbs as their main priorities, and we may be able to steal Webb."

"We will steal Webb. I'm pretty confident in this. Chuck had a great relationship with all the players I hear they love playing for him."

Screw you guys. I hate that team so much. Not Steelers level hate .. but it's up there.
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[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1327537005' post='973751']
Favorite post from Colts forums on the hire of Pagano:

"From a coaching stand point I PRAY he doesn't bring Cam Cameron. He is awful."

Least favorite post(s) so far:

"I would like to see Lardarius Webb come over with Pagano. Baltimore has Rice and Ben Grubbs as their main priorities, and we may be able to steal Webb."

"We will steal Webb. I'm pretty confident in this. Chuck had a great relationship with all the players I hear they love playing for him."

Screw you guys. I hate that team so much. Not Steelers level hate .. but it's up there.
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Webb is a RFA, meaning when we tender him with a 1st or a 1st and 3rd Indianapolis has NO CHANCE to swipe Webb from us. Unless they want to be the stupidest humans ever and give up the #1 pick in the entire draft for Webb.

Don't even trip bra.
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[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1327537005' post='973751']
Favorite post from Colts forums on the hire of Pagano:

"From a coaching stand point I PRAY he doesn't bring Cam Cameron. He is awful."

Least favorite post(s) so far:

"I would like to see Lardarius Webb come over with Pagano. Baltimore has Rice and Ben Grubbs as their main priorities, and we may be able to steal Webb."

"We will steal Webb. I'm pretty confident in this. Chuck had a great relationship with all the players I hear they love playing for him."

Screw you guys. I hate that team so much. Not Steelers level hate .. but it's up there.
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I don't think anyone follows Pags.

They may like a coach, but they love being a Raven. I don't think any player has not left here begrudgingly.
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[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1327537235' post='973761']
Webb is a RFA, meaning when we tender him with a 1st or a 1st and 3rd Indianapolis has NO CHANCE to swipe Webb from us. Unless they want to be the stupidest humans ever and give up the #1 pick in the entire draft for Webb.

Don't even trip bra.
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Oh no, I'm not worried about losing Webb to Indy. Too high a price to pay for them. What annoys me is their mentality. They got our DC and now they sit around plotting about how they can plunder our defense and our coaching staff. Did I mention I hate them?
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[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1327537371' post='973764']

Oh no, I'm not worried about losing Webb to Indy. Too high a price to pay for them. What annoys me is their mentality. They got our DC and now they sit around plotting about how they can plunder our defense and our coaching staff. Did I mention I hate them?
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Eh, they'll take JJ likely and McKinney as well. Some depth guys to help teach the other players the scheme. Im not even worried about Indy to be honest. They're going to get pushed around so much on defense in a 34 alignment. Their potential MLBs suck, Ive always despised Brackett I think he's soft. He'll get annihilated in the muck of a 34 defense. Their front 3 will be who? Moala, McKinney and someone else? Good luck.

Ya Im bitter, and ya Im right.
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Take Webb and we take your Luck. Idiots. There is no 1st & 3rd with the new CBA.

I'm sorry but in the twilight of your career I think some of these players value the organization rather than the coach. They know the Ravens are a class organization. Why would they go from here to that unstable organization, even if Pagano is there? Zibby, McClain, McKinney may go. I see other teams taking McClain, though. I hope we trade Carr & Foxworth to them. That would be a dream come true.
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1327535184' post='973663']
Why? What kind of defense does he run?
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A Mattison type defense.
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[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1327537371' post='973764']
Oh no, I'm not worried about losing Webb to Indy. Too high a price to pay for them. What annoys me is their mentality. They got our DC and now they sit around plotting about how they can plunder our defense and our coaching staff. Did I mention I hate them?
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They're fans just like us. Let them fool themselves into thinking some top-notch defenders will will follow Pags to Indy.
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I think you should get compensation if team hire your team's coaches. As long as their contract isn't up, they should get some sort of draft pick or salary cap or some form of compensation. They do it for the players so I don't see why they don't do it for coaches as well because I think it would seriously cut down on the merry-go-round garbage that happens at the end of every season and it would encourage teams to promote from within.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1327537671' post='973779']

They're fans just like us. Let them fool themselves into thinking some top-notch defenders will will follow Pags to Indy.
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I know .. just kind of annoyed right now. What is that, 4 DC's in 10 years?
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[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1327538336' post='973820']
I know .. just kind of annoyed right now. What is that, 4 DC's in 10 years?
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I think so.

It's going to be that way as long as this team continues to field a good defense.
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[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1327537371' post='973764']

Oh no, I'm not worried about losing Webb to Indy. Too high a price to pay for them. What annoys me is their mentality. They got our DC and now they sit around plotting about how they can plunder our defense and our coaching staff. Did I mention I hate them?
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It's football, you want the best players on your team. Don't be silly.
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[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1327537005' post='973751']
Favorite post from Colts forums on the hire of Pagano:

"From a coaching stand point I PRAY he doesn't bring Cam Cameron. He is awful."

Least favorite post(s) so far:

"I would like to see Lardarius Webb come over with Pagano. Baltimore has Rice and Ben Grubbs as their main priorities, and we may be able to steal Webb."

"We will steal Webb. I'm pretty confident in this. Chuck had a great relationship with all the players I hear they love playing for him."

Screw you guys. I hate that team so much. Not Steelers level hate .. but it's up there.
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My gosh they are stupid, do they not realize Webb is a RFA? I mean if they want to give us a first round pick I'll gladly take the # 1 Pick and then trade it to someone who wants Luck and give the Ravens a bunch of picks to build this team up for the future. But hey, if the Colts want to give up the 1st Overall pick in the draft and Andrew Luck, I'll take it.
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1327539264' post='973851']

My gosh they are stupid, do they not realize Webb is a RFA? I mean if they want to give us a first round pick I'll gladly take the # 1 Pick and then trade it to someone who wants Luck and give the Ravens a bunch of picks to build this team up for the future. But hey, if the Colts want to give up the 1st Overall pick in the draft and Andrew Luck, I'll take it.
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I love their ignorance. They're going to "steal" Webb? Cool story bro. Nobody wants to play for the worst franchise in the NFL, even more-so if they're leaving a winning program. That doesn't even factor in his being an RFA.

Promote Clarence Brooks or Teryl Austin and the D'll roll on. The only down year was under Mattison because he's a vanilla 4-3 guy.
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Brooks or Peas. Brooks has been here a while and has coached up some solid dlinemen for us. Peas has actually had DC experience though. And from what I understand he was good at it too.
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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1327540093' post='973890']
Brooks or Pees. Brooks has been here a while and has coached up some solid dlinemen for us. Pees has actually had DC experience though. And from what I understand he was good at it too.
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For some reason I though Pees had left. I guess I thought about the defenses he put together in New England and thought someone must've given a promotion.

Guess not. All the more choice for us.
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1327539264' post='973851']

My gosh they are stupid, do they not realize Webb is a RFA? I mean if they want to give us a first round pick I'll gladly take the # 1 Pick and then trade it to someone who wants Luck and give the Ravens a bunch of picks to build this team up for the future. But hey, if the Colts want to give up the 1st Overall pick in the draft and Andrew Luck, I'll take it.
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They are not that stupid.
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[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1327540755' post='973913']
I liked Mike Singletary when he was here. I think the players liked him also.
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When Singletary came here and Lewis met him, it was like Lewis was 18 all over again the way he talked to Singeltary. There's a huge amount of respect on the Ravens defense for Singletary.
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Does anyone know the history of the Patriots Defense and any Defense Dean Peas and where his defenses have ranked?
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