Demetrius Williams

[bkirha1]

Where has this guy been? Why did he just show up in the last five minutes?

[PuRock]

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[bkirha1]

but i remember him being a bright spot on offense for us a few seasons ago, then it seems like he fell off, whats good with that?

[Black&Purple]

It's sad, Todd Heap is rarely being used because he is blocking a lot of the time, and Mason is the only other option 75% of the time. Once teams start double covering Mason (I know, LOL but still) then we will be utterly screwed.

[bossman419]

I still think this offense needs a big play receiver. weather it is dwilliams or somebody else, we need a player to step up and stretch the field

[bkirha1]

right? Remember Michael Jackson and Derek Alexander!!! They were the S*&t, what I would do for another pair like that...

[ravensgirlx88]

Question is.. where was ANYONE?.. Im tired of seeing heap only get one pass a game, He can DO SO MUCH once he HAS the ball, we have Clayton.. Williams & Mason all 4 our good! I understand Flacco is just learning, but he just needs to practice his check downs and passing to different receivers throughout the game.

[Moderator 2]

Heap is blocking.

[Black&Purple]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='75659' date='Oct 12 2008, 10:31 PM']Question is.. where was ANYONE?.. Im tired of seeing heap only get one pass a game, He can DO SO MUCH once he HAS the ball, we have Clayton.. Williams & Mason all 4 our good! I understand Flacco is just learning, but he just needs to practice his check downs and passing to different receivers throughout the game.[/quote]

Honestly, compared to any other team they only seem good because it's what we have, but Mason is the only receiver we have that's worth a whole lot, and we have one tight end right now which is obviously Heap. In the NFL as a whole Mason could be considered a #2 receiver while some teams have #1 receivers or multiple #2 receivers. And the Colts with 2 #1 receivers...

We need another threat, and honestly I think we need a 2nd TE worth something to help out more.

[Macadamia]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='75659' date='Oct 12 2008, 10:31 PM']Question is.. where was ANYONE?.. Im tired of seeing heap only get one pass a game, He can DO SO MUCH once he HAS the ball, we have Clayton.. Williams & Mason all 4 our good! I understand Flacco is just learning, but he just needs to practice his check downs and passing to different receivers throughout the game.[/quote]
In my book, Clayton is officially a BUST. The guy will have no problem finding a Halloween Costume, he wears it every Sunday: The Invisible Man. Hopefully "Spidey" (Williams) can keep growing and take his spot on the starting lineup. We need somebody! D-Mase is a great possession receiver and will move the chains, but we need a guy who will loosen up defenses. Heap the blocker is nowhere near as valuable as Heap the pass catcher, but with our banged up OL potentially losing yet another cog today (Yanda), I don't see his role changing much in the near future.

It all sucks pretty bad right now.

[#1 D]

I think we need to add clayton more on our offense. The guy's still shifty, maybe a couple of screen passes to him would get some good explosive yards. If we can also develop Figurs then we have D. Will and Figurs to throw to. I mean clayton showed his ability with McNair, he can do it again when Flacco develops.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='Macadamia' post='75663' date='Oct 12 2008, 10:45 PM']In my book, Clayton is officially a BUST. The guy will have no problem finding a Halloween Costume, he wears it every Sunday: The Invisible Man. [b]Hopefully "Spidey" (Williams) can keep growing and take his spot on the starting lineup.[/b] We need somebody! D-Mase is a great possession receiver and will move the chains, but we need a guy who will loosen up defenses. Heap the blocker is nowhere near as valuable as Heap the pass catcher, but with our banged up OL potentially losing yet another cog today (Yanda), I don't see his role changing much in the near future.

It all sucks pretty bad right now. [/quote]

What makes you think he deserves a starting spot, All Williams has done is get alot of hype, one or two amazing catches, and no reliable production.

Williams is the biggest tease on the ravens... every time you think hes gona have a breakout year or game, he gets hurt or underperforms. He drops passes way too much, and it doesnt seem he runs crisp routes either which is unexplainable. Mason is one of the best route runners in the game along with harrison and maybe boldin, so he ought to be able to learn something.

[bkirha1]

I know I know...but today got me hyped again, im not gonna lie. Maybe he has turned the corner?
Damn we need something threatening out there...

[bkirha1]

and honestly maybe it will give clayton a wake up call...

[carlostelevida]

hey boys, the fault on his receiver not showing up is flacco,

did i see one interception because he under throw clayton, he was wide open but for some reason mr. flacco decide to throw a shorter pass, than this was intended to.

so get intercepted,

i'm looking where is the strong arm of mr. flacco, personally a i do prefer our receiver being overthrown than underthrown, at least a farther pass will not be picked.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='carlostelevida' post='75685' date='Oct 12 2008, 11:32 PM']hey boys, the fault on his receiver not showing up is flacco,

did i see one interception because he under throw clayton, he was wide open but for some reason mr. flacco decide to throw a shorter pass, than this was intended to.

so get intercepted,

i'm looking where is the strong arm of mr. flacco, personally a i do prefer our receiver being overthrown than underthrown, at least a farther pass will not be picked.[/quote]

for one an overthrown pass can be picked, depends where on the field its thrown. But on another note, tom brady wasnt a god like figure until they got Randy Moss. A reciever should make the qb better and vice versa. There are plenty of times a sack occurs because there is NO separation by the wr's the announcers commented on that time after time today. I remember one time they said " i was looking down field and there was nothing again, flacco had to take the sack" so its not all him. It doesnt matter who is the QB you cant make a defended wr open by throwing the ball....

[bkirha1]

[quote name='Lets_Go_Joe' post='75688' date='Oct 12 2008, 11:36 PM']for one an overthrown pass can be picked, depends where on the field its thrown. But on another note, t[size=4]om brady wasnt a god like figure until they got Randy Moss.[/size] A reciever should make the qb better and vice versa. There are plenty of times a sack occurs because there is NO separation by the wr's the announcers commented on that time after time today. I remember one time they said " i was looking down field and there was nothing again, flacco had to take the sack" so its not all him. It doesnt matter who is the QB you cant make a defended wr open by throwing the ball....[/quote]

Not very true at all...cmon dude he was the man before Moss...

[Lets_Go_Joe]

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[bkirha1]

and look at the team he had...

[Lets_Go_Joe]

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[nevermore621]

[quote name='PuRock' post='75590' date='Oct 12 2008, 09:24 PM']That's because the Colts stop playing defense. While we were still playing our little hearts out.[/quote]
When teams drop back in a deep zone defense, they tend to allow the underneath stuff that Williams was getting, in a bend but not break strategy. In a close game that would not have been. The real Demetrius Williams is best seen in the close games where the opposing defense is not willing to let anything get by them. This is where he and Mark Clayton need to learn to shine. Derrick Mason and Todd Heap are the only go to guys we really have when the game is close like that until Williams and Clayton learn to run disciplined routes and come back to the QB when he gets in trouble, but I think they are getting there.

[Raven-D]

[quote name='Lets_Go_Joe' post='75708' date='Oct 13 2008, 12:01 AM']He never had standout reciever but they got open, it wasnt total coverage nearly every play. When you see the defense of the other teams, they lock our guys up, maybe not mason or once in a while heap, but 85% of the time there isnt anyone to throw to its ridiculous[/quote]

I kind of have to agree here. If you seriously count during the game how many times Flacco drops back and looks around and has to run around like crazy or take a sack, it's pretty rediculous. This is one of the problems that has

plagued the Ravens for years, almost as much as the QB quandry. Look at the Indy game this weekend. Just think of how many times our secondary (who leads the league in pass defense) got burned by Harrison and Wayne, they

were WIDE OPEN. And it wasn't some 3 stringer they did it against either Veteran CB Chris McAlister got burnt TWICE for TD passes. Does C-MAC suck? No way. Having an off day perhaps, but the real story was that Manning's

receivers had the ability to get open consistently. They have for a long time. Mark Clayton and Demetrius Williams have had good plays, games, stretches in the past, but they can't seem to get open as consistently as Mason. What we

truly need is bigger threats in our receiving corps. This COULD come in the form of picking up a veteran free agent like TJ Houshmanzadeh. However, more likely we will end up trying to address this issue in the first and/or second

round of next years draft.

[FerrariFan87]

We need better receivers. Period. If Ozzie fails to get one, i.e. Roy Williams, at the deadline then I pray we find a way to maneuver to get Crabtree in the 2009 Draft because that man is a beast...

[Bullrush]

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[PuRock]

[quote name='Moderator 2' post='75660' date='Oct 12 2008, 10:39 PM']Heap is blocking.[/quote]

It's useless. People wonder where is Heap, but Heap is working his butt off blocking. We are down lineman, and need all the help we can get out there. Especially lately against pass-rushing defenses.

But if he's blocking we need to do more 3 reciever sets. Us sending out two WR's on the majority of plays, isn't helping our pass offense.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Black&Purple' post='75661' date='Oct 12 2008, 10:41 PM']Honestly, compared to any other team they only seem good because it's what we have, but Mason is the only receiver we have that's worth a whole lot, and we have one tight end right now which is obviously Heap. In the NFL as a whole Mason could be considered a #2 receiver while some teams have #1 receivers or multiple #2 receivers. And the Colts with 2 #1 receivers...

We need another threat, and honestly I think we need a 2nd TE worth something to help out more.[/quote]

Teams who have two #1 recievers lack defensive talent. Now, if we are going to be that explosive, our priorities are going to have to change.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Bullrush' post='75764' date='Oct 13 2008, 08:54 AM']Because that's when they started throwing the ball to him? Besides he already had 3 catches in the 3rd quarter. We need to get rid of Clayton, bench him already. He doesn't make any plays for us, he's a much better slot receiver.[/quote]

I agree. My patience is running thin with Clayton. His career is begining to take that same path as Travis Taylor's.

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

I say put one of our rookies in. Marcus Smith to be exact. I liked his performance in preseason.