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#1 gregreid5

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:13 PM

Obvious Cuts
Foxworth - 3.5 million cap hit but we save about 3.5 million and he wouldnt even make the team next year

Evans- Not because of his drop. You dont pay 4 million for a #4 WR when you have important extensions to dole out

Cam Cameron- I know his contract has expired but he needs to be gone

Maybe Cuts
Chris Carr- Hes our dime back and he makes 4+ a year here on out. Problem is we get no cap relief by cutting him. I like Gorrer better than him and feel chikie brown can be a a #5 corner. Cut carr so we can backload some contracts and get him on the books.

Jarrett Johnson- I like him a lot, and I am hoping we can just trim a little off his salary but he makes a good amount of money and I think Kruger is ready for more work

Ricky Williams- I like Ricky but we might feel Allen is ready or go for someone cheaper

Obvious Signs
Ray Rice- Franchise and then lock down like Suggs and Ngata

Joe Flacco- Get him a real OC, maybe one more WR, another year of experience for Smith and the TEs and he will be Big Ben. Not Brady or Rodgers, but capable of winning a SB with a defensive team. Should get around 10 million a year but fitzpatrick and kolb got that. Probably going to ask for 13 a year and this contract situation could get ugly

Ben Grubbs- He didnt look so great toward the end of the year. We will lose birk and replace him with gurode. No need to lose grubbs to. Give him 5 yr 25 million. Yanda got more but he can also play RT

Lardarius Webb- He is an RFA but a playoff team with a bad secondary (patriots for example) would be stupid not to give up a late first for him. the 1st/3rd tender doesnt exist in the new CBA. We need to sign him and it will cost us. Hes a top 10 corner already.

Draft
We need a LT, RT (Oher is below average at best), C, LG (if grubbs leaves) a MLB, and we could always use another pass rusher. I would like to see us find an OT but its a tough position to draft. Depends on Jah Reid. Peter Konz or David Decastro would be a homerun. We need to be able to run. Birk is just too old. Wilfork controlled this game. Granted a good OC could scheme out of it but a stud young center could change this defense.


Not sure about the cap situation but I think we can accomplish resigning all of our players if we make minimal moves outside of our team (maybe adding a backup safety, DL, a couple OL, and another WR. I really see this team returning 45 or more players from this team. Yea Ray and Ed are one year older but so are all our weapons on offense. This team will be back to the playoffs, I just hope we can keep our young studs.

Ozzie has done an amazing job at restocking the talent on this team and ensuring that the post lewis ravens will be a perennial playoff team.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:19 PM

I really hope JJ will take what we offer him and come back next season. I have a feeling he will have other teams offering him a LOT of money however, so I doubt he will be back next year.

Not so sure about cutting Evans, depending on how much money he wants.

Franchise RR. New OC (and QBC???) for Flacco.

Hope the talk about Pagano being looked at for a head coach doesn't happen...

And w/ Ed probably retiring, need to think about the safety position.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:19 PM

I think getting Webb and Flacco long contracts is the top priority, with Ray Rice probably getting the franchise tag and Grubbs future being a bit more questionable. Evans and Carr will be gone. The price is too high to keep them considering the role they play on the team. Cundiff will be gone. He missed too many field goals this season, and with the kickoff moved up to the 35 his touchback ability has become a much less marketable commodity.

In the draft I see us going for either an ILB or an interior lineman in the first round. Burfict might fall to us the same way Jimmy did this past year, or we might go for a center. Birk is a smart player and a skilled technician, but we saw today that he does not have the pure power to match up with the league's best DTs any longer, as he was abused by Vince Wilfork.

I think the WR corps is pretty solid, as are the DBs for the first time in what feels like forever. The D-line is solid provided Ngata bounces back from a bit of a down year, and the LBs are pretty decent as well, though I would still like to see an ILB brought in if some talent falls far enough.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:22 PM

Oher is a bye bye after his contract is over imo. He, as usual brang in another penalty at critical times not once, but four times today. He was getting beat by some nobody name Ninkovac. Time to go oher after your rookie contract buddy.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:24 PM

We need a LT, MLB, S, WR, CB, and possibly a G

cutt Foxworth, Carr, Zibikowski, and Cundiff

Edited by bmore187, 22 January 2012 - 09:29 PM.

Ed Reed is the best safety in the galaxy

We finish what we start, anybody with a different color jersey on get knocked out tonight, as long as we fight for each other dont nothing else matter!!!!!!




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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:25 PM

Keep Flacco, Grubbs, Webb and Rice. I-95 if a fair enough deal could be arranged.

Cam is gone. But I dont know who could replace him off hand.

As fas as roster cuts Foxworth, and David Reed are the only two who jump to mind. Foxworth needs no replacing since we have WEbb and Smith. Reed, needs no replacement since much of his time was specail teams.

Draft, I dont know any names or any thing, but a quality return guy is high on the needs list.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:25 PM

obvious cut is cundiff, first thing in the morning.

id cut foxworth obviously

id cut chris carr


id draft Burfict in a heartbeat if hes still there at 28. if hes not and a very good Olineman isnt, then id take Alshon Jefferies to create a great young wr tandem

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:25 PM

Foxworth and Cameron are the obvious cuts. Carr and JJ i could live with leaving. I'd still like to say Evans stay, today he showed why we traded for him even if he dropped that pass. Redding might be gone too. Ricky Williams was a really solid running back and i like him way more the allen.

Flacco, Rice, Grubbs, and Webb are must signs. Thats going to get expensive.

In the draft i'd like to see us take a offensive tackle and linebacker in the first two rounds If a good wide receiver falls i wouldn't mind that pick. We could also use a safety and a center later on. We would need to put more emphasis on center if gurode turns out not to be a suitable starter. a defensive end could be used later on and we could get another steal like mcphee.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:26 PM

View PostK-Dog, on 22 January 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

Keep Flacco, Grubbs, Webb and Rice. I-95 if a fair enough deal could be arranged.

Cam is gone. But I dont know who could replace him off hand.

As fas as roster cuts Foxworth, and David Reed are the only two who jump to mind. Foxworth needs no replacing since we have WEbb and Smith. Reed, needs no replacement since much of his time was specail teams.

Draft, I dont know any names or any thing, but a quality return guy is high on the needs list.

I forgot about Dominque Crapworth. Can you believe he is 8million salary cap? I would really keep Frank Walker than that dump. At least Walker played. Foxworth plays 2 games(at most) per season, and when he does, he gets blown out 100%

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:26 PM

View Postbmore187, on 22 January 2012 - 09:24 PM, said:

We need a LT, MLB, WR, CB, and possibly a G

And a center and a safety.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:26 PM

View Postterpsnation, on 22 January 2012 - 09:19 PM, said:

I really hope JJ will take what we offer him and come back next season. I have a feeling he will have other teams offering him a LOT of money however, so I doubt he will be back next year.

Not so sure about cutting Evans, depending on how much money he wants.

Franchise RR. New OC (and QBC???) for Flacco.

Hope the talk about Pagano being looked at for a head coach doesn't happen...

And w/ Ed probably retiring, need to think about the safety position.

who is going to shell "A LOT" of money for jarret johnson? come on, hes not THAT good and hes aging. he wont get much, hes not lamarr woodley

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:27 PM

Cut Cam Cameron, period end of story. If they do that, idk what else the front office does.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:27 PM

View PostRavenseconbeast, on 22 January 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:


I forgot about Dominque Crapworth. Can you believe he is 8million salary cap? I would really keep Frank Walker than that dump. At least Walker played. Foxworth plays 2 games(at most) per season, and when he does, he gets blown out 100%

8 mlllion? Seriously? How much do we save by cutting him? He's like the 6th CB on the roster now, behind Webb, Smith, Carr, Gorrer, and Brown. Never mind, saw we save 3.5 million.

Edited by Ravenslifer, 22 January 2012 - 09:29 PM.


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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:28 PM

Rebuild the O-Line. That has to be priority number one.

Pitta probably earned himself the starting job at TE.

Bring in Hue Jackson to take over as OC.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:28 PM

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:29 PM

View Postkeebl3rs, on 22 January 2012 - 09:28 PM, said:

Rebuild the O-Line. That has to be priority number one.

Pitta probably earned himself the starting job at TE.

Bring in Hue Jackson anyone not named Cam Cameron to take over as OC.


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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:33 PM

View PostKwothdaraven, on 22 January 2012 - 09:26 PM, said:


who is going to shell "A LOT" of money for jarret johnson? come on, hes not THAT good and hes aging. he wont get much, hes not lamarr woodley
Maybe it's just because he's opposite Suggs, but JJ has looked very good this year. Yeah, compared to lots of people on our defense he's not THAT amazing, but other defenses suck compared to ours. I have a feeling JJ is a person that lots of defensive coordinators would love to sign for a year or two.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:35 PM

If this team can snatch up Demetrius Bell, they better do it. He's a fairly young and underrated LT. Honestly, I'd rather pick him up than keep Grubbs. The Ravens face too many solid edge rushers that are going to be going up the tackles for the most part to go into the season with McKinney and Oher, who consistently get beat around the edge.

Outside of him I'd like to take a good look at Marques Colston. He's a big bodied receiver that has solid hands, complements Boldin and Smith well, and would probably be the number one receiver on the depth chart. If we could lock him down, him and Torrey would be a great duo when Boldin's contract is up.
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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:37 PM

View PostT3hRaven, on 22 January 2012 - 09:35 PM, said:

If this team can snatch up Demetrius Bell, they better do it. He's a fairly young and underrated LT. Honestly, I'd rather pick him up than keep Grubbs. The Ravens face too many solid edge rushers that are going to be going up the tackles for the most part to go into the season with McKinney and Oher, who consistently get beat around the edge.

Outside of him I'd like to take a good look at Marques Colston. He's a big bodied receiver that has solid hands, complements Boldin and Smith well, and would probably be the number one receiver on the depth chart. If we could lock him down, him and Torrey would be a great duo when Boldin's contract is up.

Either Bell or Colston would be great. Could you imagine both, and then going into draft day?

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 09:49 PM

Expectations: Matt Birk retires, Ray Lewis and Ed Reed don't retire.

Ray Rice: Number 1 priority this off-season. The last two games might have actually driven his value down a little bit. But I think the Ravens get this done quick... so quick they don't have to use the franchise tag on him. Rice has been a class act all year about his contract and now is the time to reward him.

Ben Grubbs: Not using the Franchise Tag on Ray Rice allows them to use it on Grubbs instead, allowing him to stick around while they try to hammer out a real extension.

Andre Gurode: Assuming Birk retires, Gurode would be an excellent center to play while we look in the middle of the draft for a new one. Gurode is old too, but he's still got multiple years left. If Birk doesn't retire, then allow Gurode to go somewhere else.

Cory Redding: He definitely played like it was a contract year for him, but I don't expect the Ravens will be able to afford to re-sign him.

Jarrett Johnson: See Cory Redding, only Jarrett is going to get an even bigger contract somewhere else.

Tom Zbikowski: If the Ravens target one person on the defense to keep, I hope it's this guy. He's young and plays great. He and Nakamura both play great at safety next to Ed Reed.

Lardarius Webb: He's a restricted Free Agent, so it's going to be pretty much a given he stays with the team, but I think the Ravens get a decent sized extension for him done.

Dannell Ellerbe: Another restricted Free Agent, I think the Ravens tender him and sign him to a small extension.

Potential Cuts:

Chris Carr: He signed a 4 year extension in the offseason and it isn't that big of a contract, so the Ravens should retain him.

Billy Cundiff: I know he's going to get a ton of heat in the next few weeks for that missed kick, but there's not going to be a better kicker out there to get. We just need to keep an eye on his psyche to make sure it wasn't shattered by that miss.

Cam Cameron: Contract expired, even though he called a great game against the Patriots, he's done. There's too much animosity towards him from the fan base. Hopefully Hue Jackson is our offensive coordinator next year.

David Reed: He's not really going to be a noteworthy cut... except to Ravens fans.

Domonique Foxworth: He's been injury prone when he's been here, he'll be in the last year of his contract, but with Williams, Webb, Smith, and Carr all ahead of him, it's hard to think they'll retain him.





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