MERGED: Evans

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='Va BeaCh RaVeN' timestamp='1327337537' post='968855']

Dickson's run blocking has been that much better? Wow...Pitta must be god awful at rb'ing then.
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Dicksons actually had some nice moments in run Blocking. Just not consistently.
Pitta however is a pass catcher only.

[Sir Spooky]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1327338185' post='968895']
People keep comparing him to Housh and Stalls, but Stalls was/is always injured, and Housh was 34 years old. Lee will be 31 in March, he has a few good seasons left in the tank. We still need a bigger bodied number 1 receiver, but having Lee and Torrey would be crazy next year, especially if/when we hire an offensive coordinator who's not allergic to running sets with 3+ wideouts on the field at the same time. Imagine this: 5 wide with Vincent Jackson, Q, Torrey, Lee, and Doss. Try and stop that.
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Yea that would be unstoppable but we're not going to get VJax. The money that would be used to get him should be used on Grubbs. A big name wideout in FA prolly won't happen and honestly I'm fine with the our receiver corps as is. We just need someone who will be more willing to use 3 wr sets more, though Cam actually did use alot yesterday.

[scrock]

Its tough with the salary cap, i think it goes up this year but who knows...ray rice, grubbs, flacco thats a lot of money the Ravens need

the draft is huge

[Brock86]

You don't want to get rid of Evans, I think with a camp under his belt between him Flacco, Pitta, Dickson, Evans, Smith, our younger WRs we could really have something special next year just need to give Flacco some time in the pocket.

[tolu913]

Keep the guy he will be a major contributor to our offense next season, with a good off-season camp and time in to work with flacco he will be useful he made some plays during the playoffs and i would hate to see him leave just because a db made a play on the ball. He is a talented wideout who has veteran experience and can teach Torrey smith route running. Everyone makes mistakes hopefully this teaches him next time to have a strong hold on the ball.

[Cville-Raven]

I keep him; Is there anyway we can restructure his contract?
The guys i would def cut is fox and billy

[Dnyce215]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1327347398' post='969304']
I keep him; Is there anyway we can restructure his contract?
The guys i would def cut is fox and[i][b] billy[/b][/i]
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I wouldnt cut him make him earn his spot next season and keep a reminder that someone wants your job on the roster.

[i82much]

Keep him if we can w/the salary issues. The guy is owning up to the mistake when really the defender just made a play. New OC willing to run some 3-wide, Rice is scary with some space to run in, could be a very, very good thing.

[PurpleDrink]

Cut....got other WRers that can step up Doss, Williams....we can also so cut David Reed and Foxworth, no need for them.

[akpolarbear]

I think evans has earned his place on the team and no one should criticize him for a mishap that could have happened to anyone.
Yes I am a Pats fan and feel that both teams have shown that they are both great teams.
as for people talking about cutting him, you should be ashamed of yourselves, how would you feel that if every time something didn't go right in your life that you should have to defend yourself and not just understand that things happen.
this won't be the last time you hear from evans and if you don't want him I would be proud to stand up for him on my team.

[Jamal]

He needs to be released ASAP. I'm sorry but that drop just didn't show the desire. Almost like hes just happy to be here.

Keeping him will only prevent us from playing younger and hungrier WR's.

[BaltimoreBean]

[quote name='Scotty410bmore' timestamp='1327285595' post='966669']
i really dont feel like talking about the offseason...im so sick over how we lost..next year Pittburgh will be better, Peyton Manning might be back, Texans, Patriots, Chargers, Packers, and Saints will be better....this was a long journey and for it to end like this?!? this was supposed to be our year because we had a older team...its a damn shame
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You're right. They will all be better. But we'll be better as well. Torrey will be better, Joe will be better. Look how Jimmy was playing toward the end. We will have a full offseason. We have a lot to look forward to.

[ratedr]

Hearing Rich Eisen say that Flacco's throw to Evans would've been an all-timer had Evans hung on makes me so sad.

[Dnyce215]

everybody who is calling for Lee head (I'm not we can use him) he did catch the ball, look in the tread what is call a touchdown when a reciever is standing up. you will see as clear as day he has the ball with both feet down. if you come with well he has to come down with the ball, so that's the case anybody who is diving with the ball out can be stripped or have the ball knocked away eventhough it still breaks the plain.

[reediddy]

I say we keep the guy, again, let's see what he can do with a full season under his belt

[jmckinney]

keep him just work with him a little more in practice. [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/minioiseau1.gif[/img]

[Sz0 Bullet RaiN]

Does anyone believe that Lee Evans was in bounds for that catch that was ruled incomplete. It looked as if he had possesion and he had both feet in before it was knocked loose. I honestly feel we were robbed that touchdown and the Super Bowl.

[keebl3rs]

He didn't have the 2nd foot down in time. The ball starts coming out right before his left foot touches.

Guys, it is what it is. While I do agree that not giving us an offical review was totally bogus.. he still didn't complete the catch.

[RavenDefense]

iIF The Price Is Right Keep Him , We Really Dont Need To Draft A Reciever This Year ! Were Stocked , With A New OC Next Year , I Think We Could Be TOP10 Offense And Defense !!

[frozen joe flacco fan]

I was originally down on him earlier in the year but I say we should keep him. With a full off season under his belt and some reps with Joe, it appears he can complement Torrey and Q quite well. I believe he actually caught the TD pass in the end zone and once again we were jobbed by the refs. In his exuberance, he just relaxed and let go of the ball prematurely. It was an expensive lesson but I also believe he will become a better WR because of his misfortune. To cut him for that "drop?" would be a knee-jerk reaction. It was a judgement call and if the game had been played in B'more, we would probably be preparing for the SB now instead of talking about it. Its not the 1st hometown call that has gone the way of the Brady Bunch.

[scrock]

Lee Evans would come back for cheaper I believe to play for a winner, and there will be more players like them

...see whats happening in the Nba...maybe this is a bad example but players now are starting to want to play on a few major teams, the Ravens are one of those teams now..they have good word of mouth from other veteran Ravens too

[ryanpatt28]

who knows if we would of been in position to win the game in foxborough if it wasnt for lee evans he made some huge catches i went nuts when he caught that deep crossing pattern lol

[callahan09]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1327354423' post='969596']
He needs to be released ASAP. I'm sorry but that drop just didn't show the desire. Almost like hes just happy to be here.

Keeping him will only prevent us from playing younger and hungrier WR's.
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I disagree. Evans showed in the postseason that he can still play. He was plagued by an injury all season long, and in the postseason he truly stepped up. He was getting open and fighting for the ball and I think he showed that he can be a perfect complement to Boldin.

He made one mistake... He was excited, he had that ball in his hands, it was right there, his foot was literally a MILLISECOND away from the ground. His mistake was that in that situation, he allowed himself to think "Phew, I just won us this game". He was a millisecond away from winning us that game, so he wasn't far off, and a combination of him relaxing and starting to celebrate in his head just a split second too soon, and an incredible, heads-up play by the rookie defender Moore, brought the party crashing down around us. This is frankly an understandable mistake. A lot of inexperienced receivers (he has been in the league for a long time, but never for a contender, he has never been in a situation that actually required a clutch performance in order to seal a Super Bowl, for instance) would have made the same mistake, and a defender makes a ridiculously heads-up play like Moore did to swat at the ball, a lot of receivers wouldn't have been thinking well enough in that moment to hold on, I think. Is it forgivable? Not for me it isn't. I think a smart receiver wouldn't start relaxing and celebrating until the referee puts his hands up to signal the TD. But I can understand how mentally he wasn't there, and it gives me good faith that after a thing like this happening to him, he'll never be unprepared for a situation like that again. He'll never let a ball hit him in the hands and fail to hold on as tight as he possibly can, not ever again. I think this situation is a learning experience for Evans, and given that I don't think he makes that same mistake twice, and how otherwise effective he became for us in the post-season, I think you have to give him another chance on the team.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1327354423' post='969596']
He needs to be released ASAP. I'm sorry but that drop just didn't show the desire. Almost like hes just happy to be here.

Keeping him will only prevent us from playing younger and hungrier WR's.
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Hungrier like who? Doss who is a Boldin clone without the same physical presence? A guy who sits in a zone similar to Pitta? David Reed who has like 2 career catches and can never stay healthy? LaQuan who has mediocre tools at WR, went undrafted for a reason?

Im pissed at Evans more than the next guy, but its not like a kicking situation when theres alot of guys out there that can hit from 40 and under being automatic. Or even having the pick of the litter in the late rounds. What we have at WR outside of Boldin is extremely raw, even Torrey.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1327422979' post='971158']
Hungrier like who? Doss who is a Boldin clone without the same physical presence? A guy who sits in a zone similar to Pitta? David Reed who has like 2 career catches and can never stay healthy? LaQuan who has mediocre tools at WR, went undrafted for a reason?

Im pissed at Evans more than the next guy, but its not like a kicking situation when theres alot of guys out there that can hit from 40 and under being automatic. Or even having the pick of the litter in the late rounds. What we have at WR outside of Boldin is extremely raw, even Torrey.
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But those players will only become more refined with playing time.

Evans had been really durable up until his last season in Buffalo. After his injury-plagued campaign this year, he may very well be on the decline.

If he's brought back, so be it. He'll have an opportunity to redeem himself. But I don't want to see Doss and LaQuan confined to kick-off and punt coverage duties next season.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Evans played scared. He has a losers mentality. Will he ever get out of that sissy mentality mode and play like a RAVEN? Or will he want to be another Ochostinko? It's really up to him to decide.

His a veteran, and he know how to handle a ball. Don't play like a amateur Evans. You've been there, and done that. Lets see what you got for another year.

[Jamal]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1327422979' post='971158']
Hungrier like who? Doss who is a Boldin clone without the same physical presence? A guy who sits in a zone similar to Pitta? David Reed who has like 2 career catches and can never stay healthy? LaQuan who has mediocre tools at WR, went undrafted for a reason?

Im pissed at Evans more than the next guy, but its not like a kicking situation when theres alot of guys out there that can hit from 40 and under being automatic. Or even having the pick of the litter in the late rounds. What we have at WR outside of Boldin is extremely raw, even Torrey.
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You're assuming we don't get anyone via draft/FA though.

And I don't think Doss is a Boldin clone at all. Their games are very different. Doss can play on the outside, is a good route runner, and while he wont scare anyone with it, his speed is deceptive.

I think people are way too forgiving with Evans. If you want him back, than you should want Cundiff back as well, because I find both of those plays equally bad.

[oldcoltsfan]

I think it best that the Ravens cut ties with Evans. He had a trip to the Super Bowl in his hands and dropped the ball. I know the nice thing to do would be to bring him back and give him a chance to redeem himself, but just seeing him out there would remind me of how close we came and how he failed on the most crucial catch in Ravens history. Who knows when and if the Ravens will ever be that close to going to the Super Bowl again.

Sadly, I feel that both Cundiff and Evans, two players I had formerly liked, now would bring bad karma to the team. Good luck to them, but they should not be in the uniform of the Baltimore Ravens next season.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1327444788' post='971787']
You're assuming we don't get anyone via draft/FA though.

And I don't think Doss is a Boldin clone at all. Their games are very different. Doss can play on the outside, is a good route runner, and while he wont scare anyone with it, his speed is deceptive.

I think people are way too forgiving with Evans. If you want him back, than you should want Cundiff back as well, because I find both of those plays equally bad.
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But Doss has the same strength as Boldin, over the middle, sitting in a zone, moderate speed and smart. I'd be very interested to see if Doss can get off press coverage at the NFL level. Boldin's played on the outside his entire career so I dont know how Doss has him beat on that, would Boldin be dominant in the slot when used properly? Of course but Boldin's been an outside guy for a long time.

Evans screwed us, but Cundiff has a single job to do and he was about as mediocre as it gets. Evans is at least a proven deep threat in the NFL, he just got hurt. There's a reason Cundiff is a journeyman kicker.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1327337714' post='968865']
I'd say keep, but do approach him with an intent to lower his salary. We're not getting the 4th rounder back by releasing him, so there's no point in doing so before next season begins. Let's see what he's capable of after this offseason. If he once again underperforms, then let him go early on.
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Truth always with the level-headed answer. I agree with this completely. Lee Evans is a very talented WR, give him an offseason to work with Joe and get healthy and I think he would become a valuable asset to our offense. I do want to see what guys like Doss and Q2 can do, but Evans is a known quantity and I'll bet he comes back next year with a huge chip on his shoulder.