MERGED: Evans

[Npane171]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1327284904' post='966582']
Not sure. I'd like to keep him because he is a decent receiver with big play potential. We don't really have any other proven receivers either. But, we wouldn't be lost without him. Maybe Laquan, Doss, and Reed will step up. I think Laquan potentially could provide what Evans can.

It could go either way for me.
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I think we should cut D. Reed personally. I mean, you can agree that the Ravens have a history of letting their players - even coaches - prove themselves. We've let Flacco prove himself. We've let Billy try and prove to us he was our kicker but tonight he failed. Cam was given the opportunity to prove he was our play-caller, and I think he failed in that endeavor. I don't think Lee has had the time to really show us much in the way of whether he is one of top receivers or not. He seemed to be getting into rhythm here at the very end. He came up big for us against the Texans, taking us all the way inside the 10 (to a team that came close to beating us). That was a big play. Tonight he made some good receptions for some first downs. But, he did allow the ball to be stripped from him while in the end zone. Stinks. It can happen to the best of them. If dropped balls are a criteria for cutting someone, Q should be on that list too. Certainly none of us agree with that. I say let him have another season to prove himself. We're good in the area of receivers. It doesn't make sense to just cut talent like that. Unless we trade for another player with the same level of experience and talent, I say we should keep him at least another season. But, we can cut D. Reed for some additional cap space can't we (honest question)?

[H8R]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1327296395' post='967687']


Seriously?

I can't imagine having to watch Billy miss that in Foxborough.
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Yup, real talk. Got about 100 miles to go. And yes it sucked to see all those people celebrate the Bowl Birth. Especially when we had the damn thing in the bag.

[frezeal33]

Keep.

He is starting to get much better. His injury hurt him pretty bad, but I feel like we could most definitely use his talents.

[frezeal33]

Keep.

He is starting to get much better. His injury hurt him pretty bad, but I feel like we could most definitely use his talents.

[Gordo52]

Does anyone know how to upload a pic from your computer to use as a sig? I really cant find the option haha

[frezeal33]

[quote name='Scotty410bmore' timestamp='1327285595' post='966669']
i really dont feel like talking about the offseason...im so sick over how we lost..next year Pittburgh will be better, Peyton Manning might be back, Texans, Patriots, Chargers, Packers, and Saints will be better....this was a long journey and for it to end like this?!? this was supposed to be our year because we had a older team...its a damn shame
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We need to talk about the offseason. We can't change what happened tonight.

How do you know everyone will be better? How do you know we won't have a better chance next year?

We have to take this offseason and make strategic moves and get stronger.

[DMH_in_WA]

Knee jerk is to cut him, just like you don't bring back Housh. But then I think about right up to that point. Without him, we probably don't beat the Texans. That one hand grab was monster. Then I think of actually seeing him involved in the offense ... his catches.

My thoughts are, if Cam Cameron is gone and you get someone like Hugh in who will set up some 3 receiver sets and utilize him, I say keep him. I think we were just seeing him getting going. I guarantee you he won't be relaxed like that on another catch. He has said several times that the Ravens are the greatest team he has ever played for. If they bring him back, show loyalty and he shows it back and works even harder ... he can be beast. I really think so.

Keep him ... we have other weaknesses to address that are far more important; like strengthening the O-line.

[marylandmike12]

No he's already probaly costed us to our 2 super bowl win (cundiff to) why keep a guy in his 8th year did you see th ravens sideline when evans dropped the pass and cundiff missed the kick ed reed was pissed off. Don't even bring up the injury stuff because of course big ben can play with it but lee out for 6 weeks. Plus we wasted a draft pick

[marylandmike12]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1327298777' post='967820']
Does anyone know how to upload a pic from your computer to use as a sig? I really cant find the option haha
[/quote]ar you the only one happy

[raybaby]

Keep.

[Token]

It's a hard decision for me.
On one hand, I feel as if he'd do wonders with in our offense with a full offseason with Flacco and a new offensive coordinator that knows how to use his strengths.
On the other hand, I would love to see Tandon Doss be our slot receiver and get a good amount of snaps next season.
I think I'm going to remain undecided until I see who comes in as the new offensive coordinator and what happens in the draft.

[Npane171]

[quote name='marylandmike12' timestamp='1327300282' post='967849']
No he's already probaly costed us to our 2 super bowl win (cundiff to) why keep a guy in his 8th year did you see th ravens sideline when evans dropped the pass and cundiff missed the kick ed reed was pissed off. Don't even bring up the injury stuff because of course big ben can play with it but lee out for 6 weeks. Plus we wasted a draft pick
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How do you know we wasted a draft pick? He barley had the time to prove himself this season. He helped us tremendously in the playoffs. Do you remember the one-handed grab he made against the Texans? You know, the play that put us inside the 10 against the number 2 defense. He captured a couple first downs for us today as well. He's been an asset here in the end. We haven't seen enough from him to make an informed decision, like saying he's a wasted draft pick. He's still a quick receivers, and he has a lot of experience under his belt. Unless we trade for a player of his caliber - maybe a player on the O-line- I don't see any value in getting rid of him. We haven't seen enough from Doss to say he can take the spot from Lee. D. Reed has shown us he is not a great receiver, nor even a great special teams player. Laquan hasn't shown us enough to give him that spot either. I just don't see why you keep these guys over Lee yet...

I say we cut D. Reed. Free up room and cap for someone else. We're looking good with Q, Lee, Torrey, Pitta, Dickson, Rice in our pass game. Let's look to strengthen that line of ours and implement new offensive game calling.

[CalvinSmoke]

[quote name='Token' timestamp='1327300753' post='967863']
It's a hard decision for me.
On one hand, I feel as if he'd do wonders with in our offense with a full offseason with Flacco and a new offensive coordinator that knows how to use his strengths.
On the other hand, I would love to see Tandon Doss be our slot receiver and get a good amount of snaps next season.
I think I'm going to remain undecided until I see who comes in as the new offensive coordinator and what happens in the draft.
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We got to see Doss a little bit this year, and i'm hoping that he can someday make a difference but he really, really looked like a rookie. Only time will tell, but there's no reason he can't get some time in game if we keep Evans, everyone needs a breather. We should keep Evans, people keep saying he dropped the pass... Housh dropped a pass last year, Evans got stripped from his blind side. There's a huge difference, he made the play, his hands are solid. He's exactly what we need, and a lot of things went wrong before that play. The Ravens showed the world that we are foreal, that Flacco is foreal and that our defense could still do it. It just would have felt a lot better to be seeing them in the Super Bowl.

[CalvinSmoke]

[quote name='Npane171' timestamp='1327301294' post='967872']


How do you know we wasted a draft pick? He barley had the time to prove himself this season. He helped us tremendously in the playoffs. Do you remember the one-handed grab he made against the Texans? You know, the play that put us inside the 10 against the number 2 defense. He captured a couple first downs for us today as well. He's been an asset here in the end. We haven't seen enough from him to make an informed decision, like saying he's a wasted draft pick. He's still a quick receivers, and he has a lot of experience under his belt. Unless we trade for a player of his caliber - maybe a player on the O-line- I don't see any value in getting rid of him. We haven't seen enough from Doss to say he can take the spot from Lee. D. Reed has shown us he is not a great receiver, nor even a great special teams player. Laquan hasn't shown us enough to give him that spot either. I just don't see why you keep these guys over Lee yet...

I say we cut D. Reed. Free up room and cap for someone else. We're looking good with Q, Lee, Torrey, Pitta, Dickson, Rice in our pass game. Let's look to strengthen that line of ours and implement new offensive game calling.
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I agree with you man, instead of taking a chance on another receiver let's keep the one that appears to be a gamer. We don't have a proven replacement anyway, no use of wasting a 4th round pick. And our offensive line is a smart group of guys as a unit, but we lacked power. We got stuffed in short yardage situations far too much. O-line is definitely a first concern on the offense.

[i82much]

I'd like to see him back, depending on the cap situation. He caught the ball and the defender made a play. I'm far more upset about the missed field goal and the draw play.

[Guest RBates]

Man stop replacing players that got you there. Keep and let Joe work with him. Now if the quarterback doesn't like him, then you cut bait.

[marylandmike12]

[quote name='Npane171' timestamp='1327301294' post='967872']


How do you know we wasted a draft pick? He barley had the time to prove himself this season. He helped us tremendously in the playoffs. Do you remember the one-handed grab he made against the Texans? You know, the play that put us inside the 10 against the number 2 defense. He captured a couple first downs for us today as well. He's been an asset here in the end. We haven't seen enough from him to make an informed decision, like saying he's a wasted draft pick. He's still a quick receivers, and he has a lot of experience under his belt. Unless we trade for a player of his caliber - maybe a player on the O-line- I don't see any value in getting rid of him. We haven't seen enough from Doss to say he can take the spot from Lee. D. Reed has shown us he is not a great receiver, nor even a great special teams player. Laquan hasn't shown us enough to give him that spot either. I just don't see why you keep these guys over Lee yet...

I say we cut D. Reed. Free up room and cap for someone else. We're looking good with Q, Lee, Torrey, Pitta, Dickson, Rice in our pass game. Let's look to strengthen that line of ours and implement new offensive game calling.
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if you look on that play ray rice was open, next why be like the celtics keeping old guys (evans in 8th year) when we can get a undrafted free agent like victor cruz. id rather have d reed than evans. you know any other reciever on our team wouldve cought that except for dickson

[Npane171]

[quote name='marylandmike12' timestamp='1327304210' post='967937']
if you look on that play ray rice was open, next why be like the celtics keeping old guys (evans in 8th year) when we can get a undrafted free agent like victor cruz. id rather have d reed than evans. you know any other reciever on our team wouldve cought that except for dickson
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No, I don't know that "any other receiver on our team would have caught that..." considering all of our receivers have had some pretty nasty drops this season. Besides, he didn't even DROP the pass...it was stripped.

You would seriously keep D. Reed over Lee Evans? That's the most absurd thing I've heard tonight. This comment should have been mentioned right after Billy's field goal miss as a perfect addition to an already bizarre night. To add further injury to your comment, Ray Rice was BLOCKING on that play...in fact, he blocked then hit the ground. Watch:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/lee-evans-lets-super-bowl-berth-fall-hands-001505059.html

Yeah, let's cut Lee Evans because he's "old". He's 30 for crying out loud. Derick Mason played into his late 30's and ended up as the Ravens top receiver EVER. Anquan is a two years older than Lee. Vonta...30 years old, same as Lee. Ray Lewis 38. Ed Reed 33. Let's cut them all because they're "old". They're clearly still performing at a high-level.

You're just mad and want heads to roll. Well, the one head that has been needing to roll -Cameron's - is finally rolling. Rejoice in that. Stop looking to cut players that are still valuable because they didn't make you feel good tonight.

[marylandmike12]

[quote name='Npane171' timestamp='1327305096' post='967953']

No, I don't know that "any other receiver on our team would have caught that..." considering all of our receivers have had some pretty nasty drops this season. Besides, he didn't even DROP the pass...it was stripped.

You would seriously keep D. Reed over Lee Evans? That's the most absurd thing I've heard tonight. This comment should have been mentioned right after Billy's field goal miss as a perfect addition to an already bizarre night. To add further injury to your comment, Ray Rice was BLOCKING on that play...in fact, he blocked then hit the ground. Watch:

[url="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/lee-evans-lets-super-bowl-berth-fall-hands-001505059.html"]http://sports.yahoo....-001505059.html[/url]

Yeah, let's cut Lee Evans because he's "old". He's 30 for crying out loud. Derick Mason played into his late 30's and ended up as the Ravens top receiver EVER. Anquan is a two years older than Lee. Vonta...30 years old, same as Lee. Ray Lewis 38. Ed Reed 33. Let's cut them all because they're "old". They're clearly still performing at a high-level.

You're just mad and want heads to roll. Well, the one head that has been needing to roll -Cameron's - is finally rolling. Rejoice in that. Stop looking to cut players that are still valuable because they didn't make you feel good tonight.
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its diffrent ed reed has prooved himself winning most ints and others what has lee evans do for us lose against the patriots thanks evans

[T3hRaven]

After that drop today it's easy to understand why a lot of Ravens fans want Evans gone. I, on the other hand, think he should be given the opportunity to contribute next season. Due to injury we didn't have a good opportunity to see what Lee could do for this team, and when he was healthy a faulty offensive system limited his contributions. I wouldn't be surprised if the Ravens were the team that utilized the least amount of three WR sets this season, especially considering the ridiculous amount I-formation I see. Running three wide out of an ace formation with the threat of pass could be just as effective, if not more so, than running I-form when they know we're running the ball.

But I got sidetracked a little bit there. Whoever the new OC is, I guarantee we're going to be running a lot more three wide next season. Unless the FO pulls off a miracle and signs Colston, Evans might be the most logical option to be that third receiver. He still has speed and is still the second most experienced receiver on the team. I'm chalking this season up to injuries and Cam Cameron's inability to utilize any of his offensive weapons appropriately. With the exception of Mason, Baltimore has been the place where receivers careers come to die under Cam. He turned a Pro Bowl receiver across the middle into a go route runner, defying any semblance of logic whatsoever. Give Lee a chance to play out his contract so that fourth round draft choice we traded for him doesn't go to waste. He showed enough flashes during the post-season, despite the drop, to make me want to give him another shot.

[Npane171]

[quote name='marylandmike12' timestamp='1327305852' post='967972']
its diffrent ed reed has prooved himself winning most ints and others what has lee evans do for us lose against the patriots thanks evans
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Dude, he made an excellent catch against the Texans. He played pretty well against the Pats today. He's proved himself over an 8 year career dude. He doesn't have to "prove himself" anymore, at least insofar as he is an athlete. Whether he is going to be a great Ravens receiver remains to be seen, since he was hurt the majority of the year. Further, when he came back he wasn't given much of an opportunity by Cam except here in the playoffs. You're acting like he just threw the ball on the ground. He got out played by a player who had a lot to prove today. Evans should have hung onto the ball, yes, but this ONE PLAY does not count him out yet.

[stan]

[quote name='Raving_Heathen' timestamp='1327285705' post='966684']

This. Say what you want about Evans and his drop today, but he's pretty much the only receiver the Ravens have who can consistently get open. He just needs to be able to stay healthy.
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agreed. KEEP him.He's one of the best I've ever seen. For a couple of years he was the only offense buffalo had. He carried them.

[BloodRaven]

What's his contract situation?

With all things considered I would say he's still very valuable to the team. Elite speed and good hands don't come along very often, and besides this season he hasn't been injury prone.

[keebl3rs]

I was one who pretty much wrote Lee off after he sat for weeks due to the injury. Figured he was "damaged goods" and we'd drop him come seasons end. I was wrong! I'd be happy to keep Lee.

Whoever takes over as OC.. I hope they work more 3 WR sets into the offense.

[stan]

[quote name='marylandmike12' timestamp='1327300282' post='967849']
No he's already probaly costed us to our 2 super bowl win (cundiff to) why keep a guy in his 8th year did you see th ravens sideline when evans dropped the pass and cundiff missed the kick ed reed was pissed off. Don't even bring up the injury stuff because of course big ben can play with it but lee out for 6 weeks. Plus we wasted a draft pick
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Tell me honestly how a 4th round draft pick would help us. ANY receiver in the draft that can perform like Evans, much less a fourth round pick, is rare. He dropped a pass. It happens sometimes. Don't count Evans out yet. Just watch him. I really believe in this guy. Besides it shouldn't have come down to his catch anyway. We should have smashed the Pats as it was.

[Alexir]

Evans got lucky that everyone is seeing this loss as Cundiffs fault. Lucky for Lee he got himself a scapegoat!

[cobrajet]

[quote name='Npane171' timestamp='1327296652' post='967706']


I think we should cut D. Reed personally. I mean, you can agree that the Ravens have a history of letting their players - even coaches - prove themselves. We've let Flacco prove himself. We've let Billy try and prove to us he was our kicker but tonight he failed. Cam was given the opportunity to prove he was our play-caller, and I think he failed in that endeavor. I don't think Lee has had the time to really show us much in the way of whether he is one of top receivers or not. He seemed to be getting into rhythm here at the very end. He came up big for us against the Texans, taking us all the way inside the 10 (to a team that came close to beating us). That was a big play. Tonight he made some good receptions for some first downs. But, he did allow the ball to be stripped from him while in the end zone. Stinks. It can happen to the best of them. If dropped balls are a criteria for cutting someone, Q should be on that list too. Certainly none of us agree with that. I say let him have another season to prove himself. We're good in the area of receivers. It doesn't make sense to just cut talent like that. Unless we trade for another player with the same level of experience and talent, I say we should keep him at least another season. But, we can cut D. Reed for some additional cap space can't we (honest question)?
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Keep Lee for one more year but make some calls to see if a Colston or V. Jax deal can be made. Cut D. Reed because of what he did off the field. Cut ties with Cam, not for yesterday's game but for the season as a whole.

[Markus92]

[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1327285058' post='966609']
Cut...get V Jax or Colston to be the BIG number 3 receiver.
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Whattt? both of them are soliiiddd #1 receivers

[JayDaRavensFan]

Keep Lee and let him get a whole off season to work with our qb. Should work wonders especially if we get a new OC.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='marylandmike12' timestamp='1327305852' post='967972']

its diffrent ed reed has prooved himself winning most ints and others what has lee evans do for us lose against the patriots thanks evans
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Are you typing with your nose?