Really? Jamie Dukes On "no Huddle"

[scrock]

Alex dude did nothing for 5 or 6 years, he has 1 decent year and all is forigiven

Joe Flacco has 3 really good years from the get go, he has 1 down year and he is a lost cause

I hope Joe and the RAVENS beat the Patriots

although I am disappointed in Ed Reed.....he should have known better, u can tell this is his last go around, calling ppl out, desperate times

[neoi78]

-I like Deion and his thoughts on Joe.

-I dont care what the media says, we aren't a high market team, with a high flying offense, we run the ball, we play defense, we dont play flashy, we win by 3pts... did I forget anything?

-Oh, I dont care what the media says.. Did I already say that?

-..Oh yeah, our offensive scheme sucks 99% of the time, so the media is right to critize.

[Grapple Raven]

Honestly!!! Does the NFL channel actually have a research department??? How much actual game time footage do these people watch??? Is it possible to have an unbiased, knowledgeable discussion by someone with a football IQ ??? At this point, I am not EVEN going to dignify this crap of so called "experts who only want to hear themselves talk" with a response.
I am fed up...I can only imagine how fed up Flacco must be!

[putthefuinfun]

I just finished watching the no huddle rerun...i can't believe how badly they are talking about us. It's not like we are 13-4..2nd seed...and beat several playoff teams during the regular season...I just don't get it. They bash Flacco...and actually compare him to Sanchez..??? That is a huge insult. It just really fires me up for each sunday to come just to shut these "analysts" up. I bet you even if we won the super bowl..we would still get chewed out about how bad we are and that the impossible just happened. Flacco will still be pooped on by the media...but whatever. I know we have a great team. So lets let our team know that we are all behind them...give them that little extra to go into Foxboro and take out Brady the skirt wearer and give reed, suggs, Ngata and all the others on our team that chance to get what everyone has been playing for all season. I have faith in all parts of our team. The only possible mismatch i see is our LB against NE's TE's. Hopefully they pull out more nickel and dime packages whenever NE lines up in a 2 TE set. Give our LB's a little help in coverage against them. That is my only worry in this game. Still as the days count down..the more and more confident i get that will be victorious on sunday. Just make sure we don't get to close to Brady...we might tap him...make him cry...and have the zebras lose this game for us.

[flynismo]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1326947280' post='958049']

Simply put, its a reason almost everyone in America says the same things about Flacco and I'm sure a lot of them know football just like we do. Flacco has a chance to shut them all up, its that simple. As long as this team wins most of their games off of the defense and the running game, Joe will always be criticized even if we win the SB.
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The reason so many people say these things aboout Flacco is BECAUSE of idiots like Jamie Dukes. Most people only follow their own teams, and might watch some highlights or something on NFLN, and know next to nothing about other team's players if they're not popular. In other words, they just repeat what they hear without any real knowledge.

That said, Sunday afternoon, with the entire nation watching the AFCCG, Flacco has the perfect opportunity to show what he's made of. It's put up or shut up time.

[Moderator 2]

I think they read the stat line--I saw them flash Flacco's stats in the first quarter 4-10 and 2 tds and wondered which 'expert' would say he is awful, game manager, sucks you get the idea.

Of course we were winning and 4 of the passes were drops.

[ThePurpleWall]

[quote name='Ravens1990' timestamp='1326945617' post='958007']
Jamie isn't that smart.

And of course Whines Ward is going to say that. He's just mad we beat em TWICE, and they lost to Tebow.

We all know that we have a good QB in Joe, who cares what the media thinks.
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i agree with what you said.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

Im beginning to actually really like that Joe's being crucified this week. It's all bulletin board material. He shouldn't be letting this affect him any other way than to motivate him.

[scrock]

I may have posted in this thread already but once again Jamie Dukes is a nonsensical talking head. He played the game and he thinks he knows the game and can make accurate analysis. The short answer is, he can't!!!!

Mark Sanchez wishes he had Joe Flacco's ability to stand in the face of pressure and take a hit like a man instead of flinching when a wide receivers flinches at him. Mark wishes he could complete over 60% of his passes on the regular, like it's expected of Joe Flacco. This year was a down year but that was by design or maybe not by design on purpose but by design by the personnel moves and the lack of OTAs, etc.

All the media people like to point out at Joe Flacco's post season numbers. They fail to release that in his rookie year against the Titans he made the play that set us up for the game winning FG as time was expiring. Without that CLUTCH play from Joe we would have lost that game. Then in Joe's 2nd playoff run he was walking around on 1 good leg, the other leg had a deep bruise and was so painful the columnist who works at the castle or has all access said that Flacco could barely get around the building but on gameday he cam out and he played as best he could. Last year Joe carried this offense on his back when the Chiefs shut down the run and pinned their ears back and went after Flacco hoping to fluster him. Didn't happen. Like clockwork all day Joe picked apart that highly ranked KC defense by going over the middle of the field to Todd Heap. .....the middle of the field? I thought he had trouble doing that...well, I guess not 'cause he won us that game in KC. Then in the Steelers game we jumped out to a huge early lead, went into halftime Joe was getting pressured and sacked which led to a fumle. Then he had a INT, Steelers take the lead...but what does Flacco do? He marches the team down the field and throws the TD pass to Boldin who then proceeds to drop it. Down to their last chance, its 4th down time...Joe throws a perfect ball right on the numbers to TJ Houshwhatever and he drops it....game over

[raybaby]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326967087' post='958248']
Then in the Steelers game we jumped out to a huge early lead, went into halftime Joe was getting pressured and sacked which led to a fumle.
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Actually the fumble happened on the snap. Apparently they could barely hear... Birk snapped the ball too early. The only true mistake on Joe was the overthrow to Heap that became an INT.

[DMH_in_WA]

At this point, we can be as torqued as we wanna be. If Joe wants the critics to stop talking, he is going to have to shut them up himself. He can't go out and be OK. He can't go out and continue to average 150yds/game and throw as many picks as TDs in the playoffs. The Ravens can and have won with that kind of play. This isn't about the wins and losses, this is about the perception of Joe Flacco.

You want to shut all those fools up? Go out and have a couple games on the big stage in the post season like that game against Pittsburgh in week 1 or Rams in week 3. Not just the stats (17-29, 224 yds, 3 TDs, 0 INT & 27-48, 389 yds, 3 TDs, 0 INT), but Joe was in command. Do that and they have no choice but to acknowledge him as a top NFL QB. Don't do that and the Ravens still win it all and he will be "Dilfer" to the talking heads.

At this point, there's no amount of talking or pointing out of stats that will matter. Just my opinion on it.

[scrock]

[quote name='neoi78' timestamp='1326956580' post='958146']
-I like Deion and his thoughts on Joe.

-I dont care what the media says, we aren't a high market team, with a high flying offense, we run the ball, we play defense, we dont play flashy, we win by 3pts... did I forget anything?

-Oh, I dont care what the media says.. Did I already say that?

-..[b]Oh yeah, our offensive scheme sucks 99% of the time, so the media is right to critize.[/b]
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Thats true, so why dont they call out Cam Cameron more ? Its not Joe Flacco.....im not even getting into it further, i've made long posts in other topics that have things to do with this topic

[edreed2o]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1326946981' post='958040']
Frick me, we are getting totally ripped apart in the media this week. I would LOVE it if we came out and just fed it to the Patriots. Man I want that to happen so bad, just so the media can shove it.

I was whatever about it before, but damn its just not relenting at all.
[/quote] Lol it's the NFL network. They have been talkin like this since the beginning of the season. Nothing out of the ordinary.

[TXRaven]

saw it too. does not bother me too much. Dukes is an idiot, and you can't put much stock in the unwise ramblings of an idiot.

[scrock]

Man now Im getting mad, Brian Billick is praising Alex Smith and say he got over the hump against the Saints.....and Joe Flacco has yet to prove he can do that ? What? Joe didnt drive 90 yards with seconds left and beat the Steelers ? Joe has come through plenty of times...its jut now its the playoffs....

Alex Smith wasnt playing the Texans defense either, the Saints are horrible in defense..

I hate how the media blows stuff up and acts crazy week to week depending on what happens....

Soon we'll be hearing how Peyton Manning was never any good to begin with...why? because this culture forgets the past and he hasn't done anything lately

[funky141]

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At this point, we can be as torqued as we wanna be. If Joe wants the critics to stop talking, he is going to have to shut them up himself. He can't go out and be OK. He can't go out and continue to average 150yds/game and throw as many picks as TDs in the playoffs. The Ravens can and have won with that kind of play. This isn't about the wins and losses, this is about the perception of Joe Flacco.

Bingo..

[DMH_in_WA]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326973883' post='958293']
Man now Im getting mad, Brian Billick is praising Alex Smith and say he got over the hump against the Saints.....and Joe Flacco has yet to prove he can do that ? What? Joe didnt drive 90 yards with seconds left and beat the Steelers ? Joe has come through plenty of times...its jut now its the playoffs....
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You seem overly sensitive to what the talking heads say. This, I'm not sure what your beef is with what Billick said. Alex Smith went 24/42 for 299 yards, 3 TDs, no interceptions and drove his team down the field in the closing moments; throwing the game winning TD with 9 seconds left to go in the game. He outgunned Drew Brees. That's getting over the hump.

Joe has played OK to poorly in the playoffs. He needs a game like the one Smith just had in the post season to "get over the hump" (in the analyst eyes). Being statistically outperformed by a third string rookie QB (sans INTs) and only being able to lead your team to 3 points in the final 46 minutes of a playoff game is not going to get you much respect (especially when you go on TV and tell people after that game that you felt like you were in the zone for that game). Not sure why people think it would.

[Gordo52]

Jamie dukes is most disliked whatever you call him on tv

[good_n_purple]

We know what we have in Joe. A strong-armed QB who can make all of the throws, and is tough as $2 steak. Put into the right opportunities could be elite.
Don't listen to thes outsider Know-nothings who just have to fill air time. I was stuck in the car this morning, nad happened to hear Mike & Mike. My god what idiots, they went on and on ad nauseum about Reed, and Flacco; trying to dissect every little detail of Ed's interview and comments made back and forth.
Of course HAD THEY ACTUALLY LISTENED to what Reed was saying, and had an iota of critcal thinking skills; they would have discerned form the interview Ed was actually calling out Cam, and his inabilty to call the right plays. Geesh....what maroons.

[DMH_in_WA]

[quote name='good_n_purple' timestamp='1326976366' post='958311']
Of course HAD THEY ACTUALLY LISTENED to what Reed was saying, and had an iota of critcal thinking skills; they would have discerned form the interview [b]Ed was actually calling out Cam[/b], and his inabilty to call the right plays. Geesh....what maroons.
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[b]This[/b] is what I took out of that part of the interview and what I posted earlier. No one else seemed to want to take it that way so I just let it go. To me, it sounded like Ed basically saying that he thinks they are handcuffing Flacco and limiting him by what they are calling and what they are making him do.

[AmericanSatire]

[font=comic sans ms,cursive]I have all the respect in the world for every member of our team; but you almost have to envy the Defense, Receivers and Running Backs -- If we win, they get all of the glory. If we lose, they get nowhere near the heat Joe takes.

So, you have to completely agree with Joe in that aspect.

As for the 'No Huddle' episode, my biggest beef with the whole show is you almost get the feeling that in their eyes, Joe has to block the D-Line from getting to him, Joe has to run the ball effectively on his own, Joe has to throw the ball, Joe has to catch the ball, Score every TD and kick every extra point or field goal before they are going to let up.

I wonder if any of these so called 'analysts' even watch the highlights they show while they're talking in the background. I love how they continued to show the same sack, over and over again, where Joe shed three different tackles while he was trying to get out of the pocket. All of that within three seconds. The O-Line leaked like a sieve, everyone knows it.

Admitting you're wrong is apparently A LOT harder than I thought.

One last thought on the show, as much as I despise the Steelers -- love the rivalry though -- I think I might actually have a bit of a soft spot for ol' Hines Ward after what he said on the show. In my eyes, he was the only one who kept defending Joe. Something along the lines of, 'Joe isn't asked to win ball games. He's asked to manage them.'

Don't let it go to your head, Hines.

But, I truly hope that Flacco can come out in Foxborough and put on a clinic against the Patriots. The team did it in '09, but of course he got no credit for that. Maybe if we do it again, the magnifying glass will be lifted a bit.[/font]

[scrock]

[quote name='funky141' timestamp='1326974358' post='958296']
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At this point, we can be as torqued as we wanna be. If Joe wants the critics to stop talking, he is going to have to shut them up himself. He can't go out and be OK. He can't go out and continue to average 150yds/game and throw as many picks as TDs in the playoffs. The Ravens can and have won with that kind of play. This isn't about the wins and losses, this is about the perception of Joe Flacco.

Bingo..
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That's why I can't wait for this weekend, we will run Rice and Ricky but Joe Flacco will be passing the ball quite a bit. As long as his OL, WRs, and TEs make plays for him he will come out and silence his critics on his way to a SuperBowl

[Gtown Purple]

Given Duke's past I don't think this should be a surprise.

[scrock]

[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1326974739' post='958300']

You seem overly sensitive to what the talking heads say. This, I'm not sure what your beef is with what Billick said. Alex Smith went 24/42 for 299 yards, 3 TDs, no interceptions and drove his team down the field in the closing moments; throwing the game winning TD with 9 seconds left to go in the game. He outgunned Drew Brees. That's getting over the hump.

Joe has played OK to poorly in the playoffs. He needs a game like the one Smith just had in the post season to "get over the hump" (in the analyst eyes). Being statistically outperformed by a third string rookie QB (sans INTs) and only being able to lead your team to 3 points in the final 46 minutes of a playoff game is not going to get you much respect (especially when you go on TV and tell people after that game that you felt like you were in the zone for that game). Not sure why people think it would.
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Im not sensitive, I'm just emotionally invested.....Alex Smith just made those plays against on of the worst defenses, The Ravens went against the #2..but more likely the #1 defense..the Texans D scares me more than the Steelers D. This Time Joe Flacco FINALLY gets to face a weaker defense so I'm sure he'll be putting in some work

[FerrariFan87]

Everyone also fails to realize that if our WRs and TEs didn't drop 5 passes last Sunday, Joe would have had a stat line like this:

19/27, 270+ yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs

That's clutch right there.

[scrock]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1326979695' post='958337']
Everyone also fails to realize that if our WRs and TEs didn't drop 5 passes last Sunday, Joe would have had a stat line like this:

19/27, 270+ yards, 2 TDs, 0 INTs

That's clutch right there.
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YES

I figured it out man, these 'expert analysts' all they are is experts at analyzing a BOX SCORE / STATSHEET

[DMH_in_WA]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326979375' post='958333']

Im not sensitive, I'm just emotionally invested.....Alex Smith just made those plays against on of the worst defenses, The Ravens went against the #2..but more likely the #1 defense..the Texans D scares me more than the Steelers D. This Time Joe Flacco FINALLY gets to face a weaker defense so I'm sure he'll be putting in some work
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And the rest of us aren't emotionally invested? It doesn't matter what rank the defense was. They were in the Playoffs. The Saints didn't back into the playoffs; they were 13-3 and Alex Smith used his arm to beat them. Even after the year Matt Stafford had, he couldn't do it. That's impressive no matter who you are.

The Ravens offense couldn't muster more than 3 points in the final 46 minutes. The Texans defense is good, but it's not the Steel Curtain. Please don't forget, the Texans stumbled into the post-season 10-6 after losing their final 3 games against Carolina, Indy and Tennessee. We need to stop talking like they were invincible.

Back to Smith for a moment, after what he has gone through I will not begrudge him his success and any praise that goes with it. Even last year, they were ripping him FAR more than Flacco has ever been ripped.

[scrock]

[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1326980157' post='958342']

And the rest of us aren't emotionally invested? It doesn't matter what rank the defense was. They were in the Playoffs. [b] The Saints didn't back into the playoffs; they were 13-3 and Alex Smith used his arm to beat them. [/b] Even after the year Matt Stafford had, he couldn't do it. That's impressive no matter who you are.

The Ravens offense couldn't muster more than 3 points in the final 46 minutes. The Texans defense is good, but it's not the Steel Curtain. Please don't forget, the Texans stumbled into the post-season 10-6 after losing their final 3 games against Carolina, Indy and Tennessee. We need to stop talking like they were invincible.

Back to Smith for a moment, after what he has gone through I will not begrudge him his success and any praise that goes with it. Even last year, they were ripping him FAR more than Flacco has ever been ripped.
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Not to take away from Alex Smith making those throws but his TE is a freak of nature AND the Saints played the 49'ers as a RUN HEAVY team. Now you could luck at us the same way, the Patriots focus will be stop Ray Rice and Ricky Williams, their secondary is a liability too so I look for Joe to hit a couple deep balls to either Torrey, Boldin, or Lee Evans.....they like to put Rice out as a receiver too and he has done it quite well. Then we have Pitta and Dickson.....IF Cam has a gameplan that includes all our weapons

***As far as the Texans D not being the Steel Curtain...they were damn good, they lost their leader Mario Williams and still wreaked havoc. They backed into the playoffs to get people healthy and they locked up their division and had nothing to play for.

[jdynamite]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1326949090' post='958084']


*sigh* You know this is the one thing I hate about the media, they flip flop faster than you can blink your eye. Before the season, everyone kept saying how it would be a mistake for the 49ers to keep Alex, that they should move on, etc. Now I do understand that he was great all season but your telling me one playoff win means he is proven, just because Alex kept pace with Brees? It would be nice if the media actually stuck with their opinions or actually admitted when they were wrong.
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Yeah I know it does get annoying. Alex Smith has a great game and he has proven himself. This is Smith's second decent season ( the first occurring when Norv Turner was his OC before turner went to Chargers).

Nobody cared to criticize Matt Ryan and the Falcons whom added Julio Jones to get explosive ( they did in the Regular Season prove to be explosive at times ) but when it matter most the total reason for the pick Ryan and his offense couldn't even score 3pts on the Giants Defense. ( yet the media just glanced over it )

Flacco goes 14-27, 176 yds, 2Tds , 97.0 QBR ( with at least 5 drops ) was it a spectacular performance No it wasn't but Flacco didn't throw 2 INTs. He was real accurate on throws. At the end those 2 passes should have never been called to begin with should have been 2 Ricky Williams runs on 2nd & 5 etc. I think Ricky would have gotten the first down.

[scrock]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1326980537' post='958348']
Yeah I know it does get annoying. Alex Smith has a great game and he has proven himself. This is Smith's second decent season ( the first occurring when Norv Turner was his OC before turner went to Chargers).

Nobody cared to criticize Matt Ryan and the Falcons whom added Julio Jones to get explosive ( they did in the Regular Season prove to be explosive at times ) but when it matter most the total reason for the pick Ryan and his offense couldn't even score 3pts on the Giants Defense. ( yet the media just glanced over it ) [b][u]Yeah, where is the Matt Ryan talk? Still hasn't won anything in crunch time[/u][/b]

Flacco goes 14-27, 176 yds, 2Tds , 97.0 QBR ( with at least 5 drops ) was it a spectacular performance No it wasn't but Flacco didn't throw 2 INTs. He was real accurate on throws. At the end those 2 passes should have never been called to begin with should have been 2 Ricky Williams runs on 2nd & 5 etc. I think Ricky would have gotten the first down. [b][u]Flacco had at least 5 drops too. [/u][/b]
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