MERGED: Ed Reed Comments On Flacco

[Grapple Raven]

The main take aways that I get from the Reed interviews (Sirius and 105.7) are below:

1) Reed's comments as well as Dikson's comments from the other day, when added to Suggs' and Lewis' comments from earlier in the season about giving more carries to Rice, plus Flacco's own comments about conservative play all seem to [b]point to one common denominator when taken in totality: [/b]that being pointing a finger in the direction of the offensive game planning strategy and the offensive coordinator! It would appear that there are alot of unaddressed frustrations emerging that have been ignored, but the timing for that is in the offseason not now.

2) Harbs needs to get his PR dept. focused and get this under control!!! The media is already having a field day with this, and this is definately not the time to have potentially devisive statements reaking havoc on a team preparing for a championship game. No matter what was said by whom about whom, nor what the original intent was it doesn't matter now...its out there. The media is going to use it to serve their own agenda...speculate and they will...it is bound to have a psychological effect on this team when adrendline is running especially high during playoff season, no matter what the intention. Part of the job of PR is supposed to prevent stuff like this from happening, and cork a leak to prevent esclation a.s.a.p. when there are breaches. (Tote the company line thing here)

3) We as fans, with vested personal interests, myself included, sometimes in seeking perfection more often than not become too critical. Criticism is a double edged sword, and sometimes it can come back and bite ya in the buttocks. We just got bitten.

I support each and everyone of the players of this team, always have and always will come hell or high water...so roll up ya britches, jump in the purple pool, this team needs its die-hard fans!

Take a lesson and there are many to be gathered here...and lets move on!

[scrock]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1326891036' post='956594']
If Reed is trying to motivate Flacco, this isn't the way to do it.

Honestly, if I were Joe I wouldn't even want a new contract, I'd want to get the hell out of Baltimore.
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i been thinking this for the last two years, he feels very underappreciated...on his exit speech he will tell Baltimore and their fans to enjoy the Kyle Bollers and Anthony Wrights of the world while he moves on and continues to win big games with another team.

[scrock]

[quote][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]1) Reed's comments as well as Dikson's comments from the other day, when added to Suggs' and Lewis' comments from earlier in the season about giving more carries to Rice, plus Flacco's own comments about conservative play all seem to[/font][/color][b]point to one common denominator when taken in totality: [/b][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]that being pointing a finger in the direction of the offensive game planning strategy and the offensive coordinator! It would appear that there are alot of unaddressed frustrations emerging that have been ignored, but the timing for that is in the offseason not now.[/font][/color][/quote]

Cam Cameron is the main reason our offense struggles, when the other teams we face call our offense static and predictable for a reason. I cant believe Flacco takes all this heat......Brees, Rodgers, Ben, all these so called best of the best are sitting at home

I think Ed mades these comments to light a fire under Joe and Cam Cameron

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326892051' post='956610']

i been thinking this for the last two years, [b]he feels very underappreciated.[/b]..on his exit speech he will tell Baltimore and their fans to enjoy the Kyle Bollers and Anthony Wrights of the world while he moves on and continues to win big games with another team.
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I have to be honest with you, if I were him I'd probably move on. He takes a ton of heat here from the fans and the media, Cam Cameron sucks as an OC and a QB coach and thinks he's the GOAT at both, etc. If I were him I'd probably call up Miami or something like that. They have a lot of pieces in place.

[scrock]

After watching this video I am now possitive that Ed Reed is trying to light a fire under Cam Cameron more than Joe Flacco....now remember we faced more top 10 defenses than any other team in the league.

check it out

[url="http://larrybrownsports.com/football/terrell-suggs-defense-joe-flacco-video/111182"]http://larrybrownspo...co-video/111182[/url]


YOU GO SUGGS!!!!! I think Ed Reed would tell you he feels the same way, his problem is more with the offensive system that Cam Cameron has placed on the QB....do we run, do we pass....it messes up his rhythme and this offensive system doesn't exactly breed confidence


*****Sorry if this was already posted, I missed it

[Clutch Ravens]

Having read his quotes I've interpreted it differently. It sounds more like Reed is saying Cameron's a control freak, which he is, and that his incompetency is hurting Joe - also true.

I don't get why Joe's getting so much abuse over the Texans game. The receivers couldn't get separation on a number of occasions and dropped half-a-dozen balls. The offensive line was giving up almost instantaneous pressure.

Joe did pretty well considering how poorly other people were playing. Fortunately, the Patriots defense sucks and won't be able to get instant pressure and lock-down our receivers.

[scrock]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326892222' post='956614']

I have to be honest with you, if I were him I'd probably move on. He takes a ton of heat here from the fans and the media, Cam Cameron sucks as an OC and a QB coach and thinks he's the GOAT at both, etc. If I were him I'd probably call up Miami or something like that. They have a lot of pieces in place.
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I know but I really hope he doesn't go anywhere, we've never reached the level on consistent success until Joe Flacco got here. We always had a top 10 defense, we always had a good stable of RBs and we never reached the level of success until we found our QB, Joe Flacco

[scrock]

MODS, can you change topic title to Must SEE, not MUST HERE

[funky141]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326892587' post='956621']
MODS, can you change topic title to Must SEE, not MUST HERE
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Or put it in the other 2 threads talking about the same thing...

[Grapple Raven]

Thanks for posting this Scrock! You tell 'em Suggs!!!

Go Ravens!!!

[Tatelli]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326892222' post='956614']

I have to be honest with you, if I were him I'd probably move on. He takes a ton of heat here from the fans and the media, Cam Cameron sucks as an OC and a QB coach and thinks he's the GOAT at both, etc. If I were him I'd probably call up Miami or something like that. They have a lot of pieces in place.
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OK....go ahead call up "Miami or something like that" how many QB's they been through like 2/3?? or lets talk about the something teams...Just that they been something but not even a playoff something team.

ED and others said what they said because enough BS.....it is win or go home. Cam and this O has got to get their crap together, Joe is not above being called to the table! We all know Cam is by no means a good for this team, but maybe just like the last 3 seasons we can just get by with our O and the D can finish the game. This team has been a playoff team for years and the greatest part of that was.....THE "D" AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE!

Man up Joe you just got punched in the mouth...what you going to do let Cam hold you?? Freaking take charge of this O question the play calling if need be, challenge Cam as well like your being challenged!!

[ratedr]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1326892508' post='956618']
Having read his quotes I've interpreted it differently. It sounds more like Reed is saying Cameron's a control freak, which he is, and that his incompetency is hurting Joe - also true.

I don't get why Joe's getting so much abuse over the Texans game. The receivers couldn't get separation on a number of occasions and dropped half-a-dozen balls. The offensive line was giving up almost instantaneous pressure.

Joe did pretty well considering how poorly other people were playing. Fortunately, the Patriots defense sucks and won't be able to get instant pressure and lock-down our receivers.
[/quote]Yeah I get on Flacco when necessary, but I'm rather confused as to why he's being blamed for the problems of the offense in that particular game. Like Ross Tucker and Matt Williamson said, he was not the problem with the offense the majority of the time.

[Ravens549]

Ugh, this is all I am hearing about now from everyone.
'Reed calling out Flacco.'
I honestly do wish our team had some of the discipline Billicheat instills in his players- Keep team matters behind closed doors.

Suggs avoided a team distraction by skipping Bayless' show. But now we have a veteran player stirring the pot.
Guys may know how to play football, but seriously need some instruction on media relations. I am quite sure Reed did not realize the distraction he was about to cause at that moment. Now we are going to have to listen to this blown way out of proportion all through the game should the offense struggle.

IF Flacco were to leave next season our offense we would definitely take a step back for a couple seasons.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1326894769' post='956650']
Yeah I get on Flacco when necessary, but I'm rather confused as to why he's being blamed for the problems of the offense in that particular game. Like Ross Tucker and Matt Williamson said, he was not the problem with the offense the majority of the time.
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He gets blamed because that's what talking heads do. Joe has been a target since his comments last week. Which again, were nicely spinned by the media - he makes a joke, they say he's whining. So the offense then goes out there and puts up few points on a very good defense, and people are calling Joe out because they see the score, they see the completion percentage, and ESPN's stupid, stupid "Total QBR" that [b]docks quarterbacks for getting sacked [/b]is out there.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Ravens549' timestamp='1326895150' post='956656']
Ugh, this is all I am hearing about now from everyone.
'Reed calling out Flacco.'
I honestly do wish our team had some of the discipline Billicheat instills in his players- Keep team matters behind closed doors.

Suggs avoided a team distraction by skipping Bayless' show. But now we have a veteran player stirring the pot.
Guys may know how to play football, but[b] seriously need some instruction on media relations.[/b] I am quite sure Reed did not realize the distraction he was about to cause at that moment. Now we are going to have to listen to this blown way out of proportion all through the game should the offense struggle.

[b]IF Flacco were to leave next season our offense we would definitely take a step back for a couple seasons[/b].
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Totally agree on both points. Haters keep calling him mediocre or average. They keep forgetting that Elvis Grbac put up some pretty freaking good numbers in KC before he came to Baltimore (in 2000 with KC, he had 4200 yards, 28 TDs, 14 INTs). They forget that Trent Dilfer went to the pro-bowl only 3 years before he came to Baltimore. They forget that Testeverde had been in the league for like a decade and was at least respected as a decent staring qb. He put up decent numbers, but he turned the ball over once a game like it was scripted, and you knew when the fourth quarter came you wanted the ball in anyone's hands but Vinny's. Like I said, I really would not blame Flacco at all for leaving to another team. There are easier divisions to play in with better offensive coordinators. The quarterbacks in this draft class outside of the top 2 are pretty pedestrian, and if a 27 year old QB in his 5th year in the league with the track record Joe has were suddenly available, I'm sure more than a few teams - heck, Cleveland might want him and they could take Justin Blackmon in the draft, now that would be sad to see Flacco and Blackmon tear through the Ravens' defense twice a year.

[Dnyce215]

I understand that we have issues to address but we can do that after the season! Right now we have a big game sunday and we need our attention focused on the task at hand! We have the pats on sunday and they looking at us falling a part! Let's support our team and get ready for sunday! We need our O play 110% on sunday and leave everthing on the field! It either go hard or go home! Right now I dont want the ravens to go home, Im sure they dont either, what about you the fans?

[ghost1986]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1326815116' post='955045']


Ed Reed has been known to spout off a bit when a mic is in his face.... He's a great defensive player, but hes no QB. So, I think he really doesnt understand everything about our own offense, and rightfully so. Rice falls down all the time ( on his own accord), to me...it looked like he was pushed down. I'm honestly surprised it wasnt called a penalty, maybe Flacco felt the same way. Also, maybe Joe doesn't exactly have the trust in torrey that he should, Torrey had critical drops again....
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I agree with this. At first, I thought the officiating was alright, but I can name 4 plays off the top of my mind when they missed something. 1: A hold on Sizzle by the Texans LT. 2: Illegal Contact by Allen on Boldin (tackling him well passed the 5-yard mark) 3: PI by one of their DB's or LB's on Dickson and 4: PI by one of their DB's/LB's on Rice. And yeah Torrey did have a key drop on the sidelines that would have resulted in a big gain. Our Offense wasn't bad due to just Joe. Sure he could've thrown it away a few times to avoid the sack, but the O-Line needs to do its job better and Cam...well he's just pointless to try and reason with.

[Ravenslifer]

Crap, now Ed's comments are nicely flashing along the bottom of the screen on ESPN every 5 minutes.

[funky141]

Reed should of talked to Flacco in private, not blast him through the media.

[ratedr]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326896954' post='956690']
Crap, now Ed's comments are nicely flashing along the bottom of the screen on ESPN every 5 minutes.
[/quote]Exactly, it's an unnecessary distraction. Even if the comments weren't malicious it could absolutely lead to locker room discord.

[ravensfan2430]

No reason to say this. I think Flacco played a good game. If we don't have the worst receiving core in the league(or close to it), maybe those 4 drop passes are caught.

[Dnyce215]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1326897330' post='956704']
Exactly, it's an unnecessary distraction. Even if the comments weren't malicious it could absolutely lead to locker room discord.
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I doubt it, we got a strong locker room, right now they are getting this out the way. Hopefully this will make our team stronger and come together do one thing: Get the lambardi trophy

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1326890378' post='956590']


[b]I see you must have studied at "The U" also...[/b] [b]The level of your ignorance is only overshadowed by your pathetic posts that lack substance or significance.[/b]

As to your "It's over" comment, how so? Is Flacco retiring? He's not going anywhere, neither are the Ravens... Maybe "It's over" for you... you can move on at any time..
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This is a bragging thread now. A shot at all the people saying that Flacco is playing well, particularly in that last game. Pathetic post? It obviously served its purpose, it got your attention, and made you show your ignorance in the education of Miami University students.
Pathetic. lmao

[grantkyle2003]

interesting Ed takes off 15 weeks and comes back and has a good game and now wants to open his mouth. Where were you ed when scott in the bengals game ran right by you when you thought we were playing two hand touch football?

[I AM LEGEND]

It was just the opening discussion on first take

[JaxFlaccoFan]

I keep hearing about how the Ravens are a family. Now is not the time to criticize a member of your own family publicly when that member is being unfairly destroyed by the media and some so-called fans and needs your support. You discuss those things in private and you rally behind and support your family member especially when he is getting ready to play the biggest game of his life. You need to let him know that you have confidence in him and that you've got his back. The timing of this was horrible. I hope Joe is strong enough to withstand this assault. I doubt many on this board would be.

[I AM LEGEND]

Wow....as critical as I've been on Flacco....the amount of pressure that is on him this week is at a sky high and I'm not even sure is deserving..

Its one thing if its bc the team and players on it are coming to wits end due to Joes body of work in big games...its completely unfair if this is bc the Texans game... Why? Cause for the most part even though I saw bad Flacco appear at times last Sunday he eventually ended up with 2 Tds and no Ints against a damn good defense..

Like I said...I'm not defending Flacco...fire to Flaccos butt is good in my opinion but not if its bc people assume he had a bad game against Houston...when in actuality it wasn't that bad at all..

[Radinho84]

[quote name='I AM LEGEND' timestamp='1326899967' post='956795']
Wow....as critical as I've been on Flacco....the amount of pressure that is on him this week is at a sky high and I'm not even sure is deserving..

Its one thing if its bc the team and players on it are coming to wits end due to Joes body of work in big games...its completely unfair if this is bc the Texans game... Why? Cause for the most part even though I saw bad Flacco appear at times last Sunday he eventually ended up with 2 Tds and no Ints against a damn good defense..

Like I said...I'm not defending Flacco...fire to Flaccos butt is good in my opinion but not if its bc people assume he had a bad game against Houston...when in actuality it wasn't that bad at all..
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it wasn´t bad by any means. it was one of his better games. blame the receivers for not getting open or blame cam for not using his personnel right. but damn it, don´t blame your qb that was hit all day. he hasn´t even had 3 seconds to throw the ball.

blame the oline.

at the end of the day we won a game against the best defense with one of our worst offensive performances. this should tell you something!!!

[grantkyle2003]

I sometimes wish flacco would go to a different team sometimes because he gets way more flack then he deserves. half the fanbase seems to hate him or not be satisfied with him. Its just alittle overboard if you ask me. Everyone loved him year 1 and 2 and now they expect him to be like Brees.

[RisingandConquering]

Sometimes it seems like the media picks out the quote that they think will cause the most controversy.

Flacco has played well against the Patriots in the past when he has needed to, here is hoping he steps up again this weekend.