MERGED: Ed Reed Comments On Flacco

[LiquidSnake]

Perhaps he knows his QB better than most and is his way of motivating him?

[ravensdfan]

Out of context (remember ESPN loves to do this) and being blown way out of proportion.

Personally, even with the tiny quote they took, to me it says more about the coaches control than Joe.

"(Baltimore coaches) were telling him what to do. Get it to this guy, get it here. He can't play like that."

Maybe I'm wrong but it sounds more about letting Joe off the leash than Joe being "rattled".

[RavensReign]

Thanks Bowie ! It makes a lot more sense now.

Sorry guys I overreacted. My buddy Pats fan told me about it I couldn't believe it, then I read the quotes and was shocked. Hearing Ed live it all makes sense, much to do about nothing. I imagined Ed was pissed but he wasn't he was just being honest.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1326844883' post='956036']
This is blown out of proportion.

In reading the transcript and hearing some of the excerpt, in context, Reed made it sound as if Flacco was playing like he was being handcuffed by the offensive coordinator.

Look at this quote again:

[i]"It just didn’t look like he had a hold on the offense, y'know, of times past. Y'know, it was just kinda like they was telling him to do...throw the ball or get it here, y'know, get it to certain guys. And he can’t play like that."[/i]

[b]Quote:[/b] "It didn't look like he had a hold on the offense...of times past."
[b]Interpretation:[/b] It didn't look like he was playing like his usual self.

[b]Quote:[/b] "It was just kinda like they was telling him to (...) throw the ball or (...) get it to certain guys."
[b]Interpretation:[/b] It was as if Flacco was being told where to throw the ball.

[b]Quote:[/b] "He can't play like that."
[b]Interpretation:[/b] Two meanings -- either Reed is saying Flacco can't play the way he did, or Reed is saying Flacco can't play like he's being handcuffed because that's not his style (i.e. "Joe can't play that way").

This is a non-issue. No in-team controversy.
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This is my interpretation as well. I think it was more about Joe being handcuffed and that he doesn't play his best ball in that fashion and letting him off the leash. It is easy to twist these words to mean something else though when you pick and choose what quotes to use like the media has done here.

[H8R]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1326857449' post='956310']
Wow, my opinion matches that of nfl analysts, ex players and Ed Reed. I must not know a thing....lol
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You give too much credit to "analyst" ... Just like politics, if you're simple enough... The media will tell you what you believe, if you let it.

[H8R]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1326876364' post='956508']


Ed never struck me as a brilliant mind off the field, but I certainly wouldn't call him stupid or uneducated either. I know a lot of people who don't speak eloquently, or speak like degenerates, but are more intelligent than people realize. There are many different types of intelligence ... but I dont want to get too far off track...this wasn't one of Ed's better decisions, and leave it at that.
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I'm sure you're right, maybe he's some sort of idiot savant... I just think its royally stupid to even get close to this subject, especially at this point in the season.... Some might ask if his own defense was lost on Sunday....

[H8R]

[quote name='RavensReign' timestamp='1326882601' post='956529']
Thanks Bowie ! It makes a lot more sense now.

Sorry guys I overreacted. My buddy Pats fan told me about it I couldn't believe it, then I read the quotes and was shocked. Hearing Ed live it all makes sense, much to do about nothing. I imagined Ed was pissed but he wasn't he was just being honest.
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And the thread was started already....

[edreed2o]

Yea it definitly wasnt towards just joe flacco or hating on him or anything. I think its more towards Cam Cameron because Ed calls out the whole offense. It sounds like Ed was calling out joe and even I thought so.. until I heard the audio..

[funky141]

All I can really say about this is that Ray and Ed understand the opportunity at hand and want Joe to fully recognize the magnitude of the situation (I can't attest to whether he understands that already, but that's what Ed is trying to do) and play better. Like I've said in other threads, I think Flacco will respond positively to this

This

[Pääjärvi]

Ed is right and he's the only one who has the guts to say it. Offense has been going through the motions the entire season , they've been playing not to lose the entire freaking season. It's time to start thinking about offense as in carrying this team to a SB , we need to outproduce Brady-Welker-Gronkowski and we have the weapons to do so. Ed is too smart not to know that

[funky141]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1326856651' post='956295']
Exactly......no.....hernandez is no pro bowler
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Well sorry Hernandez was not picked to be in the pro-bowl but his stat, play and the fact they only select 2 from the AFC teams and Gronkowski is one of them and Gates is the other. Anyways, both are elite players for their position.

[funky141]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1326882624' post='956530']

This is my interpretation as well. I think it was more about Joe being handcuffed and that he doesn't play his best ball in that fashion and letting him off the leash. It is easy to twist these words to mean something else though when you pick and choose what quotes to use like the media has done here.
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I'm glad you read it that way but I read it as Ed Reed dishing Flacco through the media.(see the Jets WR vs QB) Not good, Ed should of kept this in house expecialy before a big game.

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[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326814403' post='955025']
Ed's being honest. This is the first time I can remember him calling Joe out - hopefully Joe listens.
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HAhahahahhahh..........Told u, not that hard to see. Just being real, now Ed is saying it.

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[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1326882624' post='956530']

This is my interpretation as well.[b] I think it was more about Joe being handcuffed and that he doesn't play his best ball in that fashion and letting him off the leash.[/b] It is easy to twist these words to mean something else though when you pick and choose what quotes to use like the media has done here.
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Not at all. He looks like he doesn't know what is going on on field at times. Not handcuffed just Average!!!!!!!!!! I rest my case.

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[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1326876364' post='956508']

Ed never struck me as a brilliant mind off the field, but I certainly wouldn't call him stupid or uneducated either. I know a lot of people who don't speak eloquently, or speak like degenerates, but are more intelligent than people realize. There are many different types of intelligence ... but I dont want to get too far off track...this wasn't one of Ed's better decisions, and leave it at that.
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And the defense calls Ed Reed to the stand.
Fly now the debate is over. I have no further witnesses your honor.
Lmao..... Joe is offically Average[b] this year.[/b]

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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1326859335' post='956366']
He is an "X" factor. He is the QB for this team, so his play will dictate a lot. Thats understood and common sense. Its just your incessant belittling of him and closed mindedness that is baffling.
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HHhahahahahha Now you know. Vote that up. Don't say it was taken out of context. He has played average all year. Now Ed is saying it. What else will it take.

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[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1326857449' post='956310']
Wow, my opinion matches that of nfl analysts, ex players and Ed Reed. I must not know a thing....lol
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I feel the same. Lol Flacco supporters look we support him to he is on our quarterback but facts are facts.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Cville-Raven' timestamp='1326856121' post='956287']
[b]Reed should be more concerned about giving up 100+ yards to both Foster and Andre. [/b]Also what about fact that there was absolutely no pressure on the QB; Suggs and that whole D-line needs to be critized. Also the O-line played like Doo-doo on sunday.
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Wow really? The whole game was won on defense.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1326843034' post='955978']
Hahahaha, of Flacco lovers... I'd love to see the look on your faces right now.

Act as if us "haters" know nothing of what we speak.

But now one of the Ravens best players speaks up. Ed Reed, regarded as one of the smarter players in the league, especially when it comes to film study and knowledge of the game. Someone who knows the "x's and o's" and pretty much everything about playcalling.

This isn't news to me, as I've maintained the stance that Flacco simply isn't bright enough to realize what's going on around him. You want to know why he "isn't allowed to change the play?" Perhaps he is, and just has no clue when to change it or what to change it to. You wan't to know why receivers aren't "getting seperation? Perhaps it's because you're looking at the receiver Flacco ends up throwing to(often times double to triple covered)... and not the other 3 receivers on the field(whether it be WRs, TEs, or RBs) who are open or at least 1 on 1.

Can the line block better? Of course. Unless a line NEVER gets beat, then they can always do better. But a big key to protection is the QB knowing how/when to step up, when to start scrambling, and of course... when to throw the ball.

You can insult me all you want, but Ed Reed has spoken. And yes, I think it's safe to say he speaks for the entire defense no matter how much Suggs defends Flacco publicly.

The great news for Flacco is this... he only has to have 2 great games in the next 3 weeks. This week he goes against one of the worst defenses the NFL has seen in the last couple years. If that happens... all of this will be swept under the rug. He'll get a new contract. And all those who are "wacco" can say "I told you so!"

This is probably the reasoning behind the timing of Reed's statements. He knows a fire needs to be lit. Reed deserves a ring, and this year might be his last shot at it. If nothing else, at least this get's Flacco's attention on Reed and his statements as opposed to trying to make cute/sarcastic little remarks to the media.
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Lmao

[757RavensFan]

So is Reed's request to get Rickey more carries a knock on Rice who may not be able to get the tough yards when needed?

I could see Rice taking that personal!

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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1326843704' post='955999']

You know what, now I'm straight up pissed at Reed. Those comments are ridiculous. You gotta stand behind your boys, and he's throwin Joe under. That's horrible. Makes me sick
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He's telling the truth HELLLLLLOOOOO. They sucked the other day. He looked Average all year. The defense can't keep carrying the team. Make plays or move on.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1326821646' post='955243']

Agreed. And he earned that YPC too. His longest run only went for five yards but of his six carries, only one went for less than four. He got three straight carries towards the end of the second quarter. But Cam could and should have definitely worked him in more.

Working in receivers and tight ends can be difficult when an o-line is getting abused in pass protection. But when a back is clearly gaining positive yards on every carry, it's senseless to forget about him for multiple possessions.



So, he should have side-stepped the question because he hasn't had an All-Pro season?
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My point has been proven now that Ed Reed said something........smh

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[quote name='edreed2o' timestamp='1326819581' post='955184']
Exactly. Ed reed did contradict himself. I dont get why ed reed would say that about joe. Cmon ed. Did you not see how horrible the offensive line was? Or how about the several drops by our receivers? How about ray rice getting next to nothing? The only thing joe can do is get it there. Joe would of had a good game if the receivers would catch the ball. You had your bad games ed and so did joe but this game wasnt one of them.
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Wow are you kidding me? Know he didn't see the game from the sidelines. He definitely doesn't have a defensive mind to be able to interpret whether or not a Qb is playing well or not either. Flacco Supporters stop it, it's over. Its only so long you can fake it.

[H8R]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1326889614' post='956584']
Wow are you kidding me? Know he didn't see the game from the sidelines. He definitely doesn't have a defensive mind to be able to interpret whether or not a Qb is playing well or not either. Flacco Supporters stop it, it's over. Its only so long you can fake it.
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I see you must have studied at "The U" also... The level of your ignorance is only overshadowed by your pathetic posts that lack substance or significance.

As to your "It's over" comment, how so? Is Flacco retiring? He's not going anywhere, neither are the Ravens... Maybe "It's over" for you... you can move on at any time..

[scrock]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1326813839' post='955014']
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The more I think about this the more I am disappointed in Ed Reed, has hasn't exactly been playing his best football this year either. Joe Flacco has had to deal with Heap being gone, Mason being gone...those sure handed guys. In come a couple rookies in Smith and Dickson and Pitta..I realize those two are 2nd year guys but they might as well be rookies. Then comes Lee Evans and Joe hits it off with him immediately...then he goes down to injury.

Against the Texans the OL had their worst game of all year...maybe that BYE didnt do much help AT ALL

Ed Reed shouldn't be saying things like that, the playcalling has much more to do with why Flacco is taking heat and players should be second guessing Cam no Joe. Joe had no help by any of his offensive guys on Sunday.

BUT it doesnt matter, this is a new week, a new opponent....what is Ed Reed trying to do? Motivate his QB? 'cause Reed ain't no fool

I think he's trying to motivate Joe to be the best he can, he knows Joe is much better than what he showed but by that same merit the entire OL, WRs, TEs, Cam....they all need to be better than what they showed

[Jerseyraven52205527]

Way to go Ed Reed, your the man.
Couldn't be happier.

[ratedr]

If Reed is trying to motivate Flacco, this isn't the way to do it.

Honestly, if I were Joe I wouldn't even want a new contract, I'd want to get the hell out of Baltimore.

[Ravenslifer]

A second thread about this?

[jdynamite]

This is not throwing under the bus.... Sensitive people.....

Saying Rice was knocked down he threw the pass but didn't see Torrey open down field..... Or he doesn't know how often he can check or audible ( ummm which is never because Lord Cameron doesn't allow audibles lol)

[scrock]

Oh that Ed Reed is brilliant, Light a fire under Joe Flacco but also call out the OL, and Cam's lame playcalling

Ed Reed is a smart man, he knows what he's doing

It was Joe Flacco's fault he didnt have BIG numbers with pressure in his face all day, did he hold the ball too long once or twice, yes...his eyes are always down field waiting for the play to develop and he's not afraid to take a hit. Good thing is that New England wont get that kind of consistent pressure on Joe.

I think this was all part of Ed's masterplan....haha I like this very much for the Ravens