Reasons The Ravens Will Beat Patriots

[ghost1986]

Scrock, I love the game plan man. That was solid and you're right about New Orleans and Green Bay. I've already seen videos on YouTube saying the same thing. You won't get far in the playoffs without a good defense. And New England fans are bragging about stopping Denver's run game, but I have news for them: Willis McGahee is no Ray Rice or Ricky Williams. I love the guy for what he did here, but if our O-Line is on, it's lights out. But I'm not saying this is a done deal. Someone mentioned they played horrid teams in the past. That doesn't matter at this point. Any given Sunday. I don't think anyone expected Tim Tebow to even make it to Foxborough, but he did. So the Ravens need to get in gear and just focus on getting after Brady, running it down their throats, protecting Joe and use our receivers properly. But I think I'm just reiterating what scrock said. That's really all it comes down to. And I'll add one mroe thing: Execute.

[Twistidfunk]

I am feeling very confident for this game. I watched the Steeler vs. New England game this season and we all know we are similar to the Steelers defensively.

The Pats have been gashed quite a bit this season in the secondary and in the running game where we excel.

I know everyone is "worried" about Hernandez, Gronkowski, Welker, Brady but I think we match up very well. Webb is having a shutdown season. Jimmy is looking better every game and while Cary Williams doesn't necessarily make big plays he has been exteremely solid. Pollard and Reed back there keeping it all in check.

The Pats are going to run all their typical quick screens and slants to the receivers. Tight Ends in the flats and especially in the red zone. Their delayed draw plays to Green-Ellis. The Patriots have shown nothing new offensively for about 10 years now. They just got some new toys. That is it.

The Ravens know very well how to play the Pats, like everyone said run the ball and get after Brady.

People should not worry. We got this!

[scrock]

who gives me a thumbs down for explaining what kind of wake up call I'm talking about ???

some people.....smh

[scrock]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1326749099' post='954066']

IMO Texans have the best OL in the league. They execute as a unit better than anbody. 49ers also have a very good young OL. Patriots OL is above average. A lot of times they don't even get tested with the way they spread out their offensive weapons which limits the rush.

Against the Texans we were more concerned about the run. Especially the bounce out to the outside which limits our edge rushers. We rarely used McPhee. I think in the Pats game, we'll see more McPhee, more pure pass rushing by Suggs. I do think our output will be different.
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yeah, the Patriots OL can be worked over....Pagano has got to know we have to get some pressure on Tom Brady, in all the games he's struggled in he has been under pressure, getting hit, taking sacks, forcing throws, etc

When we played them and beat them in '09 we got pressure on Brady pretty much all game long, we will need to do it again

That means Kruger, McPhee, Redding, Ngata, Suggs....all those guys will need to step up...maybe run some stunts or delayed blitzs

[scrock]

[quote name='ghost1986' timestamp='1326749242' post='954070']
Scrock, I love the game plan man. That was solid and you're right about New Orleans and Green Bay. I've already seen videos on YouTube saying the same thing. You won't get far in the playoffs without a good defense. [b]And New England fans are bragging about stopping Denver's run game, [/b]but I have news for them: Willis McGahee is no Ray Rice or Ricky Williams. I love the guy for what he did here, but if our O-Line is on, it's lights out. But I'm not saying this is a done deal. Someone mentioned they played horrid teams in the past. That doesn't matter at this point. Any given Sunday. I don't think anyone expected Tim Tebow to even make it to Foxborough, but he did. So the Ravens need to get in gear and just focus on getting after Brady, running it down their throats, protecting Joe and use our receivers properly. But I think I'm just reiterating what scrock said. That's really all it comes down to. And I'll add one mroe thing: Execute.
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Well when you are facing a team in Denver that has to run the ball the majority of the time, running the option, with a QB who can't beat the coverage they were throwing at him its pretty straight forward and EASY to stop the run game.....thats nothing to be bragging about

[scrock]

the only thing i worry about is their two TEs, if we can't cover them or at least limit their impact its going to be tough....we cant be missing on tackles AT ALL...this is it, go all out for 1 game, a chance to go to the Superbowl....

the Gronk and Hernandez are beasts...but back to my original point, our offense will be able to put long drives together all day (i hope) so Brady will just be watching from the sidelines...if we can control the clock, we can potentially limit Brady and that offense to maybe 3 or 4 drives a half and then pressure will be on them to make something happen...if we end up getting some stops its all over

[The Black Bird]

Atlease we can say as ravens fans is that we got the bad game out the way. That means we can look at everything we didn't do right and correct them for this game. The mean thing we struggled with r the things we will have to fix to beat the Pats. Our passrush have to get better and our whole offense needs to play better. The good thing is that everything we did bad at can be fix. It's a lot of things we can do better, but when u look at the Pats they can't play kno better then what they did on Saturday especially aganist our defense. The patriots haven't seen our best football yet, but we seen the patriots best and to me they can't play any better... 45 points is pretty Damn good. We kno what's coming from the pats but I don't think they really kno what's coming from the ravens come Sunday.

[JoeCool#5]

Tom Brady has consistantly shown he turns to Jello under pressure, allowing for several picks and bad decisions.

New Englan run stopping ability and the lack there of.

Joe is actually healthy going into NE unlike last playoff trip to Foxboro where he was playing with one hip.

Steelers beat up NE, why not us

[The Black Bird]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326751563' post='954157']the only thing i worry about is their two TEs, if we can't cover them or at least limit their impact its going to be tough....we cant be missing on tackles AT ALL...this is it, go all out for 1 game, a chance to go to the Superbowl....

the Gronk and Hernandez are beasts...but back to my original point, our offense will be able to put long drives together all day (i hope) so Brady will just be watching from the sidelines...if we can control the clock, we can potentially limit Brady and that offense to maybe 3 or 4 drives a half and then pressure will be on them to make something happen...if we end up getting some stops its all over[/quote] Key match up I think Jimmy Smith line up against Hernandez.. to me he match up perfect against him they both r 6'2 and Hernandez is like a receiver.

[organizedchaos007]

[quote name='Florida Ravens Fan' timestamp='1326745638' post='953920']
Did I understand correctly? You said the defense played well? First time Ravens allow hundred yrd rusher in playoffs, ZERO sacks against a rook, and yes we got INTs but those were poor decision throws from a rook. The D has been sucking it up lately.
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we also held the texans to 13 points, 0 points in the second half, and 4 INT... yea, the D played good when they had to. Yea they gave up 100 yards to a top 5 running back, and arguably one of the best Olines in the game. and we had 0 sacks, but if you watch the game film... when did we actually "blitz"... we didnt.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326751268' post='954143']

yeah, the Patriots OL can be worked over....Pagano has got to know we have to get some pressure on Tom Brady, in all the games he's struggled in he has been under pressure, getting hit, taking sacks, forcing throws, etc

When we played them and beat them in '09 we got pressure on Brady pretty much all game long, we will need to do it again

[b]That means Kruger, McPhee, Redding, Ngata, Suggs....all those guys will need to step up...maybe run some stunts or delayed blitzs[/b]
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This right here is the key for me. Our front 4 needs to be able to pressure Brady and force some hurried throws. If he is given time it doesnt matter how well our secondary plays, someone will get open and the Golden Boy will find him. I like the idea of using some delayed blitzes and maybe some CB or safety blitzes as well.

Our pressure packages have looked pretty vanilla over the past few weeks, but I think we might see Pagano dialing up some interesting looks in this one.

[Tank 92]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326751094' post='954132']
who gives me a thumbs down for explaining what kind of wake up call I'm talking about ???

some people.....smh
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I fixed it.

[The Raven]

Here we go again with the "wake up call" bull crap...

We already had 4, possibly more wake up calls. How many do we need?

[PuRock]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1326752636' post='954193']
Here we go again with the "wake up call" bull crap...

We already had 4, possibly more wake up calls. How many do we need?
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Sometimes I like to hit the snooze button 4 times.

[Cville-Raven]

I expect Torrey to be an X factor. I remember when they played the chargers they couldn't deal with vincent jackson's or Malcolm Floyd's speed, unfortunately Floyd got hurt in the first quarter and never came back into the game.

[Dubs]

I think if we can get pressure up the middle on Brady we can stop this offense. There offense is built between the numbers and Brady absolutely loves stepping up in the pocket and seeing the crossing routes and sit downs in the zones. As great as having an outside pass rush will be to this game I think it is more crucial we move the middle of the pocket, its the only time I ever see Brady have issues with accuracy.

However, with that said we will need one heck of a complete game on defense to stifle the Pats offense and will need to be throwing everything we have at them and more. Im excited to see with what Pagano has in store

[Bltravens]

Ngata, Redding and McPhee need to have the pass rush games of their lives so we don't have to watch Flacco attempt to win a shoot out against Brady.

[CharlesK]

What's the weather gonna be like is my question. If it is bad weather and tough to pass things could get rough for any team that relies so heavily on the pass. Food for thought. The game against the Texans had some problems no doubt; but some good signs as well. Webb and Pollard both played real well. Reed, Williams, and Smith did pretty good as well. Webb covering Welker with a bit of help is a bet I will take. Webb has been spot on all year!!!!!!!!!!!

[GENO'S RAVENS]

rite now it says 47 degrees and a chance of showers, good conditions for a patriot beatdown!!![img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/ravensquote.gif[/img]

[Ryan561]

We all know Suggs is licking his chops right now knowing he is playing Brady...

[Crabcakes&Football]

#1 We [b]always[/b] show up to play the Patriots. No matter who either team has beaten we have always played them extremely tough.
#2 We are the more complete team
#3 We should be able to dominate their mediocre defense
#4 No one will predict we win.

[Raven43hike]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326742469' post='953806']
As bad as we played against the Texans I believe it can serve as a wake up call. A wake up call for the coaches, and the players...coaches need to rework the gameplan when it comes to passing.

The Ravens will go into New England looking to run Ray Rice and Ricky WIlliams down the Patriots throats. I think that's a big reason why we can win, we have the ability to control the ball and the clock. Which keep Brady off the field and on the sidelines. The thing is when we get into the redzone we MUST get Touchdowns and not FGs.

Now to Cam Cameron and his lame playbook, he's got to have more than 2 or 3 plays in that thing, right??? Lee Evans looks like he's back and ready to go, he has speed and he's got proven hands. I know things haven't worked out as well as we all hoped but none of the past matters anymore. We have 1 game!!! 1 win away from the Superbowl and I think if we make it to the SB we will definitely win it. It's almost fate or destiny..for Baltimore to win another SB in Indy....

Boldin always makes some nice plays during the game but not enough of the other receiving options get worked into the offense. Don't get me wrong we are going to be running the ball A LOT to keep Brady off the field. We want this game to be quick and dirty....but when we need to pass Cam has got to take a page from New England's playbook on how to use two young stud TEs...they're sitting there and its a damn shame they dont get focused on more. I would like to see some different formations, like 3 or 4 wide if we need to.

Have Lee Evans outside, Boldin in the slot, Pitta or Dickson in there somewhere maybe coming off the edge, and Torrey Smith on the outside opposite Evans....Cam needs to shake up how we run these plays.

We can't afford to be STATIC or predictable against the Patriots....yeah they have a really bad defense but if they know what's coming its going to make it much easier for them..

This is a winnable game and I think the Texans game can serve as a wake up call for sure...Coach even said we are humbled. So lets go to work and have a rock solid gameplan and run Ray Rice and Ricky all day but when the situation calls for Joe to pass, the OL needs to give him time, and the receivers need to beat their man and make a play for the football...go out there and grab it,take it out of the air...FIGHT

The Patriots have a high powered offense but at times during the year they have struggled, there were a handful of games they didnt play well...and because of their bad defense they cant have that. See New Orleans and Green Bay...those were the two teams being picked for the NFC Championship game and to go to the Superbowl...well they had a high powered offense and a bad defense....the Ravens can do the same thing to the Patriots...play defense, control the clock by running the ball, and score TDs

Our front 7 has got to get pressure on Tom Brady though, we have done it before and we saw what happened...INTs, fumbles....GET IT DONE!!! T-Sizzle Im looking at u
[/quote]Besides the o-line (right side) I dont think they played to bad remember Houston has a good defense.

[hawkprey]

I'm not even gonna get into the specifics of this matchup, because so much depends on gameplan with the Patriots. You saw how the right gameplan against the Broncos made the Pats D look great and contributed to a blowout win. And you saw how the right gameplan allowed the Steelers to lay a smackdown on them earlier in the season. If Belichick has the right gameplan on Sunday against our offense (remember last year when they changed in the 4th quarter and stalled us?), it will be a long day. If we have the right gameplan to stop Brady, Welker, and his TEs, we will have a good chance at a win. To me this game has a better chance of being a stalemate than a shootout.

[D_UP]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1326746142' post='953946']
Regardless of what happens I think this season is a success. If you make it to the AFC championship you have to feel good about what you're doing.
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Even rice said Super Bowl win or season is failure. I agree with that also to quote jayz "moral victories are for minor league coaches."

[PuRock]

[quote name='GENO'S RAVENS' timestamp='1326755395' post='954261']
rite now it says 47 degrees and a chance of showers, good conditions for a patriot beatdown!!![img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/ravensquote.gif[/img]
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Rain and wind. Good. Snow Bad.

[organizedchaos007]

[quote name='CharlesK' timestamp='1326754967' post='954254']
What's the weather gonna be like is my question. If it is bad weather and tough to pass things could get rough for any team that relies so heavily on the pass. Food for thought. The game against the Texans had some problems no doubt; but some good signs as well. Webb and Pollard both played real well. Reed, Williams, and Smith did pretty good as well. Webb covering Welker with a bit of help is a bet I will take. Webb has been spot on all year!!!!!!!!!!!
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Im not so sure weather plays that huge of a role in this game. Our game plan will be run the ball, convert some key 3rd downs, score some points in the red zone, and play sound defense. The Pats will throw the ball of course,but... does weather really effect them that much? they play in this weather 3/4 of the year, ever year. And dont you recall just acouple years ago in buffalo in the blizzard, Brady had 5 TD's by halftime. I think the way the weather COULD effect us, is in the kicking game. But billy had a great game last game, and I have confidence in him.

[organizedchaos007]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1326761059' post='954459']
I'm not even gonna get into the specifics of this matchup, because so much depends on gameplan with the Patriots. You saw how the right gameplan against the Broncos made the Pats D look great and contributed to a blowout win. And you saw how the right gameplan allowed the Steelers to lay a smackdown on them earlier in the season. If Belichick has the right gameplan on Sunday against our offense (remember last year when they changed in the 4th quarter and stalled us?), it will be a long day. If we have the right gameplan to stop Brady, Welker, and his TEs, we will have a good chance at a win. To me this game has a better chance of being a stalemate than a shootout.
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I have to agree with you, and I think adjustments will be a key factor in this game. Chuck does a decent job of adjusting, Cam will have to make some adjustmens on the fly... so the same thing doesnt happen that happened in the last regular season game in Foxborough. I really feel like we will be able to drive the ball dwn the field on them and even punch them in the mouth in the run game. I hope Cam can make the adjustments needed when the time calls for it, cause we all know Bellichek will make the proper adjustments.

[hawkprey]

[quote name='organizedchaos007' timestamp='1326762782' post='954497']
I have to agree with you, and I think adjustments will be a key factor in this game. Chuck does a decent job of adjusting, Cam will have to make some adjustmens on the fly... so the same thing doesnt happen that happened in the last regular season game in Foxborough. I really feel like we will be able to drive the ball dwn the field on them and even punch them in the mouth in the run game. I hope Cam can make the adjustments needed when the time calls for it, cause we all know Bellichek will make the proper adjustments.
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Meh, I said I wouldn't go into anything. I'm kinda bored now. So I figured this out:

Who do you like to have the better day on Sunday, Brady or Flacco?
Joe Flacco has an 86.5 career passer rating against New England.
Tom Brady has a 71.3 career passer rating against Baltimore.

Baltimore ranked #1 in the NFL this year for opponent passer rating. New England is 20th.

[organizedchaos007]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1326763584' post='954517']
Meh, I said I wouldn't go into anything. I'm kinda bored now. So I figured this out:

Who do you like to have the better day on Sunday, Brady or Flacco?
Joe Flacco has an 86.5 career passer rating against New England.
Tom Brady has a 71.3 career passer rating against Baltimore.

Baltimore ranked #1 in the NFL this year for opponent passer rating. New England is 20th.
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Lol i figured id draw you in . Very good point. I definitely like Joe's chances against their defense, compared to Brady against ours. Joe was able to drive the ball down the field somewhat easily even when we had Heap, mason, and clayton (sigh @ that 4th down drop clayton), and even last year Joe did great the whole game... until Bill brought in the extra LB and it was game over. My key stat... simple as it may be..... NE hasnt beat a team with a winning record ALL year, ... I dont count the broncos last week. We have played 8 out of the top 10 defenses this year. and beat them all, we play up to our competition.

On top of that, we have had"decent" success against the Pats D in the past... we actually have some playmakers this year, and can put Boldin in the slot.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='D_UP' timestamp='1326761240' post='954462']
Even rice said Super Bowl win or season is failure. I agree with that also to quote jayz "moral victories are for minor league coaches."[/quote]

...And Harbs already told you we major you cockroaches!

Go Ravens