Reasons The Ravens Will Beat Patriots

[scrock]

As bad as we played against the Texans I believe it can serve as a wake up call. A wake up call for the coaches, and the players...coaches need to rework the gameplan when it comes to passing.

The Ravens will go into New England looking to run Ray Rice and Ricky WIlliams down the Patriots throats. I think that's a big reason why we can win, we have the ability to control the ball and the clock. Which keep Brady off the field and on the sidelines. The thing is when we get into the redzone we MUST get Touchdowns and not FGs.

Now to Cam Cameron and his lame playbook, he's got to have more than 2 or 3 plays in that thing, right??? Lee Evans looks like he's back and ready to go, he has speed and he's got proven hands. I know things haven't worked out as well as we all hoped but none of the past matters anymore. We have 1 game!!! 1 win away from the Superbowl and I think if we make it to the SB we will definitely win it. It's almost fate or destiny..for Baltimore to win another SB in Indy....

Boldin always makes some nice plays during the game but not enough of the other receiving options get worked into the offense. Don't get me wrong we are going to be running the ball A LOT to keep Brady off the field. We want this game to be quick and dirty....but when we need to pass Cam has got to take a page from New England's playbook on how to use two young stud TEs...they're sitting there and its a damn shame they dont get focused on more. I would like to see some different formations, like 3 or 4 wide if we need to.

Have Lee Evans outside, Boldin in the slot, Pitta or Dickson in there somewhere maybe coming off the edge, and Torrey Smith on the outside opposite Evans....Cam needs to shake up how we run these plays.

We can't afford to be STATIC or predictable against the Patriots....yeah they have a really bad defense but if they know what's coming its going to make it much easier for them..

This is a winnable game and I think the Texans game can serve as a wake up call for sure...Coach even said we are humbled. So lets go to work and have a rock solid gameplan and run Ray Rice and Ricky all day but when the situation calls for Joe to pass, the OL needs to give him time, and the receivers need to beat their man and make a play for the football...go out there and grab it,take it out of the air...FIGHT

The Patriots have a high powered offense but at times during the year they have struggled, there were a handful of games they didnt play well...and because of their bad defense they cant have that. See New Orleans and Green Bay...those were the two teams being picked for the NFC Championship game and to go to the Superbowl...well they had a high powered offense and a bad defense....the Ravens can do the same thing to the Patriots...play defense, control the clock by running the ball, and score TDs

Our front 7 has got to get pressure on Tom Brady though, we have done it before and we saw what happened...INTs, fumbles....GET IT DONE!!! T-Sizzle Im looking at u

[DMH_in_WA]

I've got a bit simpler reason: Because the Patriots have only beaten poor or average teams all year: 2x Dolphins, Chargers (early), Raiders, 2x Jets, Cowboys, Chiefs, Eagles, Colts, Redskins, 2x Broncos, Bills (late). And they lost to the only good teams they faced this year: Bills (early), Steelers and Giants.

Brady himself knows it. He said today that the Ravens "are the best team we've faced all year". My feeling is their dominance is an illusion caused by the cupcake schedule they had. They are good, no doubt .. but they aren't the juggernaut their record or that game against Denver makes them out to be. Give them the teams we've played and beat this year and tell me what they're record would be.

[IMissMattStover]

This is so much more refreshing and professional than the snobs on the Pats site simply posting things like "we are so much better than the Ravens. They suck. We're gonna blow them away." Thanks for being classy. [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/minioiseau1.gif[/img]

[Jerseyraven52205527]

Lets hope the coaches read this post, well said....

[Gordo52]

I don't even have to read that to agree with you

[Florida Ravens Fan]

Im sorry but how many wake up calls do this team need to get it?

[bpytnjr58]

But how many wake up calls do they need...It is getting close to Indy time.

[Ravenslifer]

It's any given Sunday in the NFL. But I'm encouraged a lot by how well the defense played in Houston, and how well Flacco and Boldin looked. The Patriots can't cover Torrey the way JJ did, nor can they stuff Ray the way the Texans could. The Patriots' offense is potent, but their defense is susceptible.

[Bltravens]

They need to get the ball to Ricky on the ground more often when Rice struggles early. Im sorry, but Ricky converts on the 4th down stop on the 5 inch line and Ricky converts 2nd and 1 to end the game. The dude is a load to bring down, and hardly ever gets hit and stuck. He was exploding through the line yesterday on runs. Give it to the Pats line big time, and go 65-35 in carries next Sunday is what I would do.


Looked it up, Ricky had 27 yards on 6 carries for 4.5 ypc.

[757RavensFan]

[quote name='Florida Ravens Fan' timestamp='1326744042' post='953861']
Im sorry but how many wake up calls do this team need to get it?
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I guess they need another one, bc the 3 previous ones (Jax, Stl, SD) didn't do it.

[izvoodoo]

I really have no idea what's going to happen on sunday.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1326744414' post='953871']
They need to get the ball to Ricky on the ground more often when Rice struggles early. Im sorry, but Ricky converts on the 4th down stop on the 5 inch line and Ricky converts 2nd and 1 to end the game. The dude is a load to bring down, and hardly ever gets hit and stuck. He was exploding through the line yesterday on runs. Give it to the Pats line big time, and go 65-35 in carries next Sunday is what I would do.


Looked it up, Ricky had 27 yards on 6 carries for 4.5 ypc.
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Agreed. Ricky is playing lights out right now. He's getting the tough yards and he is excellent in pass protection.

Another reason why we will win. We match up very well against their team. Our safeties and LBs are some of the best against opposing TEs. Our D-Line can get pressure on Brady with just a four man rush on their O-Line. They have no outside rushers. Their corners can't compete with OUR arsenal of weapons.

[Florida Ravens Fan]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1326744825' post='953884']


Agreed. Ricky is playing lights out right now. He's getting the tough yards and he is excellent in pass protection.

Another reason why we will win. We match up very well against their team. Our safeties and LBs are some of the best against opposing TEs. Our D-Line can get pressure on Brady with just a four man rush on their O-Line. They have no outside rushers. Their corners can't compete with OUR arsenal of weapons.
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Exactly, why not use Ricky in the 3rd and inches.....hmmmm or on the 3rd and 2 on goal line..... Sorry dnt want make this a bash Cam thread.

[Florida Ravens Fan]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326744275' post='953869']
It's any given Sunday in the NFL. But I'm encouraged a lot by how well the defense played in Houston, and how well Flacco and Boldin looked. The Patriots can't cover Torrey the way JJ did, nor can they stuff Ray the way the Texans could. The Patriots' offense is potent, but their defense is susceptible.
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Did I understand correctly? You said the defense played well? First time Ravens allow hundred yrd rusher in playoffs, ZERO sacks against a rook, and yes we got INTs but those were poor decision throws from a rook. The D has been sucking it up lately.

[bauer77]

[quote name='Florida Ravens Fan' timestamp='1326745638' post='953920']
Did I understand correctly? You said the defense played well? First time Ravens allow hundred yrd rusher in playoffs, ZERO sacks against a rook, and yes we got INTs but those were poor decision throws from a rook. The D has been sucking it up lately.
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You do realize the defense had multiple stop yesterday, and was the main reason we won that game?

Yates being a rookie had nothing to do with it, their O-line was playing awesome yesterday.

While yes i know we did allow Foster to get 100 yards, it also didn't help that it seemed like everytime we got the ball after the first quarter it was a 3 and out. The defense has to be pretty gassed. Not making excuses for them, but yeah.

[T3hRaven]

The Ravens are definitely the best team the Pats have faced, but I'm going to reverse that and say the Pats are also the best team the Ravens have faced. Historically speaking, the Ravens have had trouble beating the truly elite QBs like Brady and the good Manning. Yes, that defense is terrible, but I think Tom Brady is the greatest QB of all time and can make up for it. Stopping Gronkowski has proven to be an impossible task thus far, Hernandez is a dynamic threat, and Welker is as solid as always. The one thing the Pats lack is that field stretching dynamic receiver (and a run game, but they don't need it), and the way that team is set up they get by without it. Weak schedule or not, this offense is still one of the most talented in the league, and stopping them is going to be quite the challenge.

All I know for sure is this is going to be a great game to watch.

[izvoodoo]

Regardless of what happens I think this season is a success. If you make it to the AFC championship you have to feel good about what you're doing.

[bauer77]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1326746142' post='953946']
Regardless of what happens I think this season is a success. If you make it to the AFC championship you have to feel good about what you're doing.
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While yeah it may be a success, i think many people (including myself) think it will be a failure if they dont make it to the Super Bowl. Ray Rice even said it yesterday during the opening thing they did on CBS.

[kingcars]

[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1326742897' post='953819']
I've got a bit simpler reason: Because the Patriots have only beaten poor or average teams all year: 2x Dolphins, Chargers (early), Raiders, 2x Jets, Cowboys, Chiefs, Eagles, Colts, Redskins, 2x Broncos, Bills (late). And they lost to the only good teams they faced this year: Bills (early), Steelers and Giants.

Brady himself knows it. He said today that the Ravens "are the best team we've faced all year". My feeling is their dominance is an illusion caused by the cupcake schedule they had. They are good, no doubt .. but they aren't the juggernaut their record or that game against Denver makes them out to be. Give them the teams we've played and beat this year and tell me what they're record would be.
[/quote]

Exactly what I was going to say. They failed to beat any good teams this year while we're undefeated against playoff teams. Someone told me the other day that he doesn't think the Ravens will do well in the playoffs because we lost to bad teams; he'd rather beat bad teams and lose to good ones. To which I replied "The difference is that we have no chance of meeting those bad teams we lost to while the only teams the Pats [i]will[/i] be facing are teams they've lost to." It's going to be a tough game, but if we can go to Heinz Field and stick it to the Steelers, I see no reason why we can't do the same to a weaker New England team.

[busterblue52]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1326744414' post='953871']
They need to get the ball to Ricky on the ground more often when Rice struggles early. Im sorry, but Ricky converts on the 4th down stop on the 5 inch line and Ricky converts 2nd and 1 to end the game. The dude is a load to bring down, and hardly ever gets hit and stuck. He was exploding through the line yesterday on runs. Give it to the Pats line big time, and go 65-35 in carries next Sunday is what I would do.


Looked it up, Ricky had 27 yards on 6 carries for 4.5 ypc.
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This is exactly what needs to happen. Ricky has been running hard all season he needs to be the goaline back. He just goes right away he doesnt wait for something to open up he just goes straight and hes hard to bring down.

[scrock]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1326743824' post='953858']
I don't even have to read that to agree with you
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haha, i get going and before i know it i have written maybe a little too much

[scrock]

[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1326744483' post='953875']

I guess they need another one, bc the 3 previous ones (Jax, Stl, SD) didn't do it.
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The wake up call should be KNOCK KNOCK Hey!!! Cam!! change up the playcalling, teams have figured us out because you have made us so predictable

so its not the same old wake up call of needing to play better on the road

Against playoff teams we are undefeated so I dont think we will go to New England not ready to go...we rise to the level of our competition

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Florida Ravens Fan' timestamp='1326745638' post='953920']
Did I understand correctly? You said the defense played well? First time Ravens allow hundred yrd rusher in playoffs, ZERO sacks against a rook, and yes we got INTs but those were poor decision throws from a rook. The D has been sucking it up lately.
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I guess I mostly meant Ray Lewis and Ed Reed. They stepped up when they needed to. Sad all the names and yet I still think of those two as being the entire defense sometimes. But you're right. Suggs in particular needs to make his presence felt, and the corners can't let Gronkowski and Hernandez do what the Chargers receivers did to them.

[orlandoraven]

For Defense, get pressure on Brady by sending 4 and 5 pass rushers. Get to Brady, Gronkowski and Hernandez become less relevant. They've averaged 31 points (or 5 scoring drives, 3.5 TD's & 2 FG's) a game this year. All this defense needs to do is limit them from their average to one less TD for this one game. I haven't seen much deception recently from Pag but this might be the game to pull out the stops in order to get to Brady.

Our offense averages 21 points a game (on average 2 TD's & 2 FG's) playing 11 of our 16 games against top 10 defenses. Going against their defense, just need to get one more score either FG or TD. Running Rice obviously but I think Belichick will do everything to stop Rice (last game 28 att 88 yds). Need more production from Rice than what we got last year BUT this year's Oline is much better than last year's line. I think we need Flacco to take advantage of opportunities presented since this is the Patriots defense. He's not had bad games against the Pats and this might his opportunity to shine.

The pressure will not be one the offense (I believe) but the pressure will be on the defense trying to contain Brady. Do these two things and the game becomes VERY winnable.

[757RavensFan]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326747638' post='954009']

I guess I mostly meant [color=#FF0000][u][b]Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.[/b][/u][/color] They stepped up when they needed to. Sad all the names and yet I still think of those two as being the entire defense sometimes. But you're right. Suggs in particular needs to make his presence felt, and the corners can't let Gronkowski and Hernandez do what the Chargers receivers did to them.
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How could you leave Webb out of this discussion from yesterday? He balled out in coverage and came up and made some good tackles against the run.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1326747879' post='954022']

How could you leave Webb out of this discussion from yesterday? He balled out in coverage and came up and made some good tackles against the run.
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And Webb. Sorry, there wasn't much good I could say about the defense as a whole. Letting MJD ring you up when your offense is going 3 and out on every series is one thing. Letting Foster just gash you on three big plays is unacceptable. I know it was just three big runs, but we stop him even once and it's a different ballgame, they don't get some points and the score looks better.

[SirPainsalot]

What I'm worried about is the Patriots OL. Isn't that group supposed to be the best in the league?
And we couldn't even penetrate the TEXANS' OL?
Are there any stats to prove this or not?
Either way, we need to come up with elaborate blitzes and formations for this Patriots offense.

Also, the last Patriots game had a defense that looked to stuff the Broncos and stop the running game. Pressuring the QB; it worked well. Our OLine has to do its magic.

My advice to both sides of the ball is to be CREATIVE.
All the Patriots know of us is their tapes, use that to your advantage. USE THE NO-HUDDLE! USE THE SHOTGUN! It works with Joe Flacco!
I get the faint feeling that this is Cam Cameron's gameplan as well, but maybe it's just me being hopeful.
Our X-Factor right now is that we're the major underdogs. That's good, because we have the potential to play an even better game than the one on Sunday.
If we surprise the Patriots, we have a great chance of winning this game.
Of course, they [i]could [/i]surprise us, like with the Aaron Hernandez as a RB trick. That won't matter if we penetrate their OLine though.

[flynismo]

We can win because we are a flatout better team. They robbed us of a win in 2007 (thanks refs and Rex Ryan), escaped with a win in 2009 (thanks for dropping the game winner with seconds left Clayton) and eeked out a 23 - 20 last year.
And notice all these games are in their house.

Their luck against us is running short.

[Ravens Lover]

[quote name='Florida Ravens Fan' timestamp='1326745638' post='953920']
Did I understand correctly? You said the defense played well? First time Ravens allow hundred yrd rusher in playoffs, ZERO sacks against a rook, and yes we got INTs but those were poor decision throws from a rook. The D has been sucking it up lately.
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yea they got beat in the first half, but the great Defenses make adjustments and thats what they did in the second half no points allowed and two turnovers

[PuRock]

[quote name='SirPainsalot' timestamp='1326748481' post='954047']
[b]What I'm worried about is the Patriots OL. Isn't that group supposed to be the best in the league?[/b]
[b]And we couldn't even penetrate the TEXANS' OL?[/b]
Are there any stats to prove this or not?
Either way, we need to come up with elaborate blitzes and formations for this Patriots offense.

Also, the last Patriots game had a defense that looked to stuff the Broncos and stop the running game. Pressuring the QB; it worked well. Our OLine has to do its magic.

My advice to both sides of the ball is to be CREATIVE.
All the Patriots know of us is their tapes, use that to your advantage. USE THE NO-HUDDLE! USE THE SHOTGUN! It works with Joe Flacco!
I get the faint feeling that this is Cam Cameron's gameplan as well, but maybe it's just me being hopeful.
Our X-Factor right now is that we're the major underdogs. That's good, because we have the potential to play an even better game than the one on Sunday.
If we surprise the Patriots, we have a great chance of winning this game.
Of course, they [i]could [/i]surprise us, like with the Aaron Hernandez as a RB trick. That won't matter if we penetrate their OLine though.
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IMO Texans have the best OL in the league. They execute as a unit better than anbody. 49ers also have a very good young OL. Patriots OL is above average. A lot of times they don't even get tested with the way they spread out their offensive weapons which limits the rush.

Against the Texans we were more concerned about the run. Especially the bounce out to the outside which limits our edge rushers. We rarely used McPhee. I think in the Pats game, we'll see more McPhee, more pure pass rushing by Suggs. I do think our output will be different.