Ravens Heavy Underdogs According To The Spread. Also, Pats Forum Is Crazy!

[Uncle Tom]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1326703831' post='952949']


Oh, they've already got the excuses handy for that one. Brady was hurt, we had locker room cancers, weren't mentally tough yada yada yada
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...and my favorite. Wes Welker tore his ACL in week 17 against Houston. Oh those pesky excuses.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Uncle Tom' timestamp='1326782468' post='954863']

...and my favorite. Wes Welker tore his ACL in week 17 against Houston. Oh those pesky excuses.
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Does Welker account for 19 points or play defense?

[JohnL]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1326694608' post='952846']
NE is currently 9 point favorites.

And the PATS fans think they are gonna steamroll us, lol ....

[url="http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/884721-bring-ravens.html"]http://www.patsfans....ing-ravens.html[/url]
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As a Texans fan that has finally gotten over Sunday's loss, my mind is now clear, I am thinking rationally, and am now hopping on the Ravens bandwagon. Brady is in for a rude awakening when he faces your D. As far as your O, Flacco and the gang are going to have to take it up a notch and drive down the field for scores as Brady does not turn over the ball. I think they just had to get the first-round bye rust out of them Sunday, but will be on their game next week against the Pats.

Pats feeling pretty good about their win against Denver, but they have no idea what's coming for them next week. GO RAVENS!

[Jerseyraven52205527]

Eric Mangini & Brian Bullock like our chances

[ravens88]

idknw im not to confident in this one i like our chances but im not saying this is a lock, the argument for the ravens is the patriots have not beaten a team with more than an 8-8 record or a top 5 defense which leans to our favor but the patriots have been red hot i mean just clicking on all cylinders i dont care who the oppenent is when your putting 40+ points on almost before the end of the 2nd quarter your not just good your rediculous. Also their defense has been playing very well as of late they may be second to last in yards but they are in the top half in points allowed which means redzone defense we struggle in the redzone.. if this game is in the 20's for points on each team i see us having a pretty good shot at winning but if it gets into the 30's im not to sure we can win a shootout. This is one game before your in the superbowl 1 game and your playing for the lambardi we have a very hungry team which cant be placed on paper so im hoping thats the x factor. just my two cents on the game for whats its worth.

[Uncle Tom]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1326809709' post='954954']
Does Welker account for 19 points or play defense? [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.png[/img]
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Maybe not. But Gronkowski and Hernandez can. They were in college still when we played in 2009.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Uncle Tom' timestamp='1326832786' post='955593']

Maybe not. But Gronkowski and Hernandez can. They were in college still when we played in 2009.
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Well, anyone can play that game. So were Dickson, Pitta, Smith, Boldin was a Cardinal, no Lee Evans, Vonta etc....

We were talking about Welkers absence as if he gave up the 33 points or could account for 19 himself and actually make that contest a game. Now, 2009 means absolutely nothing, but it just simply shows that we do the unthinkable!

[kingcars]

I've been reading through the thread on the Pats forum and it's hilarious. Every post resorts to one of these:

"We have Gronk and Hernandez!" as if they're the apocolypse in disguise

"You guys lost to Jacksonville!" and fail to realize that we soundly beat much better (read: playoff teams with positive records) while their team only beat up on negative record scrub teams to pad their record and stats

"We're 6-1 against the Ravens!" despite the fact that they keep telling Ravens fans to stop living in the past

"Your defense is old!" when in all actuality, we don't have that many old players

"We have Tom Brady!" yeah well we have Terrel Suggs, and if he has anything to say about it, Brady won't have time to take a breath after the snap. Not to mention the rest of our defensive stars...look at all the game planning they have to do just to counter Ed Reed's presense.

There are a few others, but those seem to be the main retorts.

I also like how one guy mentioned that the Patriots' opponents had negative records because they lost to the Patriots while another guy on the forum has a signature dedicated to showing the rankings of offenses the Ravens have played. Using that logic, those rankings would be due to the fact that those offenses had to play the Ravens. But ya know, their arguments are only convenient when it works for them and not the other way around.

[BMOREHAWAII]

Some of them said if they "stop" Ray Rice that we are done.. I LOL'ed.I think they have forgotten about they're highly ranked 31st ranked pass D. I like Q's and T. Smith's chances

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='reediddy' timestamp='1326768381' post='954657']

Your lcation is Gainesville so I'm expecting a little homerism in your response to this, but to be honest I agree Tebow has shown flashes of being able to play effectively in the league. For me I need to see it more consistently. As defenses adapt to the type of offense that Denver will be [u]forced[/u] to run, Tebow will IMO be less and less effective as next year progresses. Only time will tell.

However, Flacco has shown at a generally consistent level that he can win in this league, and he has done it on the road in the playoffs, both as a rookie and 2nd year QB in harsh environments. He is a proven commodity at QB in this league. Until Tebow can say that he isn't on Flacco's level
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Haha. Yeah, I do have a bit of a bias being from Gainesville, but Tebow has potential. I'm not saying I am certain he will ever be a HOF QB, I simply believe that he has what it takes, and with his work ethic, I believe that he can succeed. Im especially interested in seeing his abilities after he has an offseason where he can actually work with Elway and some other coaches.

[flynismo]

[quote name='JohnL' timestamp='1326810383' post='954959']

As a Texans fan that has finally gotten over Sunday's loss, my mind is now clear, I am thinking rationally, and am now hopping on the Ravens bandwagon. Brady is in for a rude awakening when he faces your D. As far as your O, Flacco and the gang are going to have to take it up a notch and drive down the field for scores as Brady does not turn over the ball. I think they just had to get the first-round bye rust out of them Sunday, but will be on their game next week against the Pats.

Pats feeling pretty good about their win against Denver, but they have no idea what's coming for them next week. GO RAVENS![/quote]

thank you, it is nice to hear that from other fans. Believe me when I say the Texans have earned our respect as well.

Btw, JJ Watt is even better than I thought he'd be. Great pick

[berad]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1326846061' post='956062']
thank you, it is nice to hear that from other fans. Believe me when I say the Texans have earned our respect as well.

Btw, JJ Watt is even better than I thought he'd be. Great pick
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Watt was a monster, 2.5 sacks and a ton of other plays as a 3-4 end? Outrageous.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='CalvinSmoke' timestamp='1326703315' post='952944']
I don't know why our fan base is so confident lol, but i guess that's why we're fans (fanatics) but in my opinion our team has looked shaky the past few weeks. Next week the Pats are going to make Flacco beat them, and we have to keep him upright and allow him to do so. We also have to put Lee Evans on the field more, it looks like he's finally ready :-)
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Your right they have looked shaky, i think it had a little to do with having a BYE honestly. RAVENS are do in for a domination game. I love it when the media dogs us, fuel for the fire.

[IMissMattStover]

I am not going to get all cocky like many pats fans and some of our own fans have. I do believe that we can win this game, but I am not going to act like one of the pats fans that I cannot stand by being arrogant and cocksure.

[latenighthero]

I'm not saying that we'll win because I'm probably 50/50 based on last week, but the Ravens are have a win percentage of 100% against teams above .500 and the pats have a 0% (0/3) I believe against teams that are over .500. Seeing as both teams are over .500 I don't see how patriots fans can be so confident.

Add that to the fact that after we have laid an egg (like we just did against the Texans) we have come out firing on all cylinders the following week.

[IMissMattStover]

I wouldnt call it laying an egg. We played against a great D that gave our offense no time to think, and despite that Jow managed 2 good TD completions. Furthermore, despite the couple of defensive drops, our D had a great game.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1326749309' post='954073']

You people are so frustating. Look at the part I bolded. I meant that the comments about Flacco were similar ones to those being made about Tebow. You guys need to calm down. Also, if there really was no way Tebow was better or at least similar to Flacco, there would be no reason for you to get so hot headed over my comment. I think you guys are a little scared oF Tebow's potential, though you would never admit it. [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/minioiseau1.gif[/img]
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No, what I'm saying is the same people who stick up for Tebow bash Flacco like it's a religion. Flacco is killed for completing less than 60 percent of his passes, yet Tebow is coddled while he completes less than 50 percent of his passes routinely? Tebow is a potential starting quarterback, maybe, but there's no way he has the same potential as Flacco. Flacco has all the skills necessary to be an elite quarterback. Whether or not he becomes one is up to him, but Tebow can't throw the ball accurately. IDK how hard you[i] compete[/i], if you can't [i]complete[/i] passes you aren't long for this league.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='latenighthero' timestamp='1326847029' post='956099']
I'm not saying that we'll win because I'm probably 50/50 based on last week, but the Ravens are have a win percentage of 100% against teams above .500 and the pats have a 0% (0/3) I believe against teams that are over .500. Seeing as both teams are over .500 I don't see how patriots fans can be so confident.

Add that to the fact that after we have laid an egg (like we just did against the Texans) we have come out firing on all cylinders the following week.
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You realize the Texans were number 2 or 3 in the league in most defensive categories, right? And the Patriots are not. I really don't think scoring points is going to be the problem against them. Keeping them from scoring will be the issue. Kind of like the reverse of the Texans.

[IMissMattStover]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326849746' post='956163']

No, what I'm saying is the same people who stick up for Tebow bash Flacco like it's a religion. Flacco is killed for completing less than 60 percent of his passes, yet Tebow is coddled while he completes less than 50 percent of his passes routinely? Tebow is a potential starting quarterback, maybe, but there's no way he has the same potential as Flacco. Flacco has all the skills necessary to be an elite quarterback. Whether or not he becomes one is up to him, but Tebow can't throw the ball accurately. IDK how hard you[i] compete[/i], if you can't [i]complete[/i] passes you aren't long for this league.
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Yeah, I agree with you. However, I think we will see a different, much improved Tebow next year, after he has the offseason to spend with Elway and the coaching staff.[img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/minioiseau1.gif[/img]

[reediddy]

[quote name='IMissMattStover' timestamp='1326845561' post='956050']

Haha. Yeah, I do have a bit of a bias being from Gainesville, but Tebow has potential. I'm not saying I am certain he will ever be a HOF QB, [b]I simply believe that he has what it takes, and with his work ethic, I believe that he can succeed.[/b] Im especially interested in seeing his abilities after he has an offseason where he can actually work with Elway and some other coaches.
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This. That's really all it takes. If he puts his mind to it he can get it done

[IMissMattStover]

Exactly. It is the intangibles he has that people have been talking about all season. He also inspires his teammates to perform at a higher level.

[latenighthero]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326849820' post='956167']

You realize the Texans were number 2 or 3 in the league in most defensive categories, right? And the Patriots are not. I really don't think scoring points is going to be the problem against them. Keeping them from scoring will be the issue. Kind of like the reverse of the Texans.
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Ya the texans defense was much better than the patriots, but the patriots offense with brady at the helm is also much better than TJ Yates. And gronk, henandez and welker pose a much bigger matchup problem than just andre johnson. Albeit they don't have the same running game, but undeniably the patriots offense is much better.

[cursona pirate]

i heard on the radio this morning (local country channel lol i dont listen to the music just the hosts) they said the Patriots are 7 1/2 point favorites now? How does it change. I am not into all this gambling stuff so idk how it changes? Also they are all Bills fans and hope we win which is always plus!

[PuRock]

[quote name='cursona pirate' timestamp='1327012748' post='959201']
i heard on the radio this morning (local country channel lol i dont listen to the music just the hosts) they said the Patriots are 7 1/2 point favorites now? How does it change. I am not into all this gambling stuff so idk how it changes? Also they are all Bills fans and hope we win [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png[/img] which is always plus!
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It probably won't change. But sometimes the way the public is betting changes the lines. That or if something major occurs during the week (like for instance if Brady got injured in practice and couldn't play).

Ofcourse Bills fans want us to win. Also Dolphins, Jets and Colts fans want us to win as well.

[cursona pirate]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1327012903' post='959209']

It probably won't change. But sometimes the way the public is betting changes the lines. That or if something major occurs during the week (like for instance if Brady got injured in practice and couldn't play).

Ofcourse Bills fans want us to win. Also Dolphins, Jets and Colts fans want us to win as well.
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lol my father who is a Bills fan thinks Brady will win because he has more fire and desire(lol that rhymed).
But i told him if the Bills can beat them why can't we. he is still cheering for us but it seems he got sucked into all the media and thinks Brady is unbeatable. so whatever. I can't wait till Sunday.

[DallasBlue]

You guys need a mean rush on Brady. If your front four or three can get pressure, [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/bitenails.gif[/img] the percentages of wining is awesome. Im saying this because Brady is a rhythm QB. You let him stand there and he will pick you out all day. ONe more thing ....you have to play mistake free football. NE dont make to make mistakes.

Im rooting for you guys.....alll the way..[img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/banana1.gif[/img]

[hawkprey]

[quote name='cursona pirate' timestamp='1327012748' post='959201']
i heard on the radio this morning (local country channel lol i dont listen to the music just the hosts) they said the Patriots are 7 1/2 point favorites now? How does it change. I am not into all this gambling stuff so idk how it changes? Also they are all Bills fans and hope we win [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png[/img] which is always plus!
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Vegas sets the line in order to even out the money placed on both teams. They minimize their risk of losing money no matter who wins. The line dropping means there was too much money on the Ravens as 9 point underdogs and Vegas would've likely lost money if the Ravens won. (I think 9 points was the initial line.)

[Ravens Beast]

I love how they talk about Flacco being a turnover machine when he is pressured. Guess they didn't see last weeks game at all. Most fans on that site seem very assured that victory will be handed to them. They seem to think Welker was the difference in the game when we played them in 09' (even though we trounced them). They also think our defense is over rated and that all of a sudden they can now get a bunch of pressure and have a shut down defense. I'm amazed at the way fans change just by one game.

[cursona pirate]

[quote name='DallasBlue' timestamp='1327020781' post='959359']
You guys need a mean rush on Brady. If your front four or three can get pressure, [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/bitenails.gif[/img] the percentages of wining is awesome. Im saying this because Brady is a rhythm QB. You let him stand there and he will pick you out all day. ONe more thing ....you have to play mistake free football. NE dont make to make mistakes.

Im rooting for you guys.....alll the way..[img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/banana1.gif[/img]
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Thanks! I dont know if we ever had a Dallas guy on here! So welcome!
Lol you should talk to this one guy on here who has Romo in his username...wonder where he is?
Anyway welcome again!

[atlravensfan]

. Man Im not the biggest flacco fan but I hope he puts 375+ on them. Go Ravens!!

PS I would like to apologize for thinking some of our posters say crazy things......We have NOTHING on pats fans.