Flacco Stats?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326671978' post='951792']
Doss needs to play, period. I don't care if he can only run the go route and is as slow as a tight end, all I know about the guy is that he's supposedly got hands as good as Hakeem Nicks. He fell because he ran a 4.6 or 4.7 40 time.
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Nicks has big hands but he's pretty drop-prone.

But I agree Doss needs to play. Hoping he earns/gets the opportunity next season.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1326671468' post='951764']

I've been saying this all season. I bet we bring in another veteran in his later 20s to bolster this group.
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Could you imagine Larry Fitz from the Cards. We would be in Heaven, i know Flacco would. If only Lee Evans was healthy this yr, he would have been able to build chemistry with Joe. You can't Deny the SKILLED HANDS of Lee Evans as we all have seen today. Best catch i've seen in a long time.

[Tank 92]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1326671186' post='951735']
[u][i][b]Had the offensive line done their job[/b][/i][/u] and the WR's got separation, Flacco would have had a field day. Just sayin'.
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Our O line got owned today. Great Team win.

[RavensFanInCA]

[quote name='PeRK82' timestamp='1326672233' post='951804']
Dont forget their O line is playing better than ours, i dont think our O line could have played worse ,imo
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I agree. Rodgers is playing essentially the same game Flacco was, with drops, pressure, etc. For all the FLAK that Flacco gets, I can't imagine people saying the same about Rodgers as they did about Flacco. I'm by no means sayiing Flacco > Rodgers, that's pretty obvious... but it makes me think that it's not just the media that can never give Flacco any credit...

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='PeRK82' timestamp='1326672387' post='951817']


Could you imagine Larry Fitz from the Cards. We would be in Heaven, i know Flacco would. If only Lee Evans was healthy this yr, he would have been able to build chemistry with Joe. You can't Deny the SKILLED HANDS of Lee Evans as we all have seen today. Best catch i've seen in a long time.
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If we had Larry Fitzgerald, I don't even think Cam could mess up using him. Could you imagine a four WR set with Larry Facing JJ, Torrey covered by their number 2, Q by their number 3, and Lee by the number 4?

[H8R]

We need to get better at catching the ball, especially in traffic...

[PeRK82]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1326671767' post='951780']

I hope not. Evans is under contract for next season. Even if he's cut, Torrey needs to continue developing and so do Doss and[b] LaQuan[/b]. And there's no reason the young TEs can't be featured more.
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Thats who i think should get a few snaps if our WRers continue to drop balls, LAQ. can catch plus he is hungry and EVERYONE on here knows he is my Favorite Offensive player on this team. Hard to believe, i know but i really like the kid and i see something in him. He has that [b]IT [/b]factor,imo.

[RAYvenFan20]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326672592' post='951831']

If we had Larry Fitzgerald, [b]I don't even think Cam could mess up using him[/b]. Could you imagine a four WR set with Larry Facing JJ, Torrey covered by their number 2, Q by their number 3, and Lee by the number 4?
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bet he could

[ratedr]

Hopefully they were just shaking off the rust. Next week I want to see more of this...

[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/881051/evans2.gif[/img]

[keebl3rs]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1326673084' post='951868']
Hopefully they were just shaking off the rust. Next week I want to see more of this...

[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/881051/evans2.gif[/img]
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Those catches from Boldin and Evans were money.

[Ray Ray Ravens]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326672281' post='951807']

We have some good receivers, but we still don't have a true number 1 receiver like a Nicks or a Jennings or one of the Johnsons. If Michael Floyd is on the board when we pick, Ozzie better take him no doubt. But I think our biggest need is on the offensive line, where Birk is aging, Grubbs may leave, and we have no answer at left tackle. Our two biggest defensive needs are ILB and Safety, but I don't see any good ones in the draft this year. There may be some second round safeties like Merkelle Martin out of OSU, but nobody worth a first round pick. Good free safeties are really hard to come by nowadays since the passing game has become such a big part of the league. I still think that a big reason we got Ed was because even 10 years ago the league was more running than passing. Now you have 3 5000 yard passers and I bet if Rivers hadn't stunk it up this season he'd have joined them. So passing D is at a premium, but based on the talent in the draft, I think offensive line is our best bet.
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How many of those 5000 yard Qbs do we play regularly? We need to stop the run and be able to pass rush. O line has been a concern since the beginning of the season. Jah should be ready by next season so we have the depth at RG. Our biggest problem I see on the O line is Mckinney. Gurrode can atleast fill in for Birk if he decides its time to quit. We need someone to play behind Reed strongly. Then learn from him if he is still here next season. Mclain has been behind Lewis for a while and we seen he can fill in if we need him. Alot of things can happen next season that we have no clue about. Reed and Lewis could stay or leave.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1326673084' post='951868']
Hopefully they were just shaking off the rust. Next week I want to see more of this...

[img]http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/881051/evans2.gif[/img]
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Agreed, i want to see T.Smith in the slot more running a slant. We have seen what he can do with YAC.

EXAMPLE - CHARGERS GAME.

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='PeRK82' timestamp='1326672387' post='951817']
Could you imagine Larry Fitz from the Cards. We would be in Heaven, i know Flacco would. If only Lee Evans was healthy this yr, he would have been able to build chemistry with Joe. You can't Deny the SKILLED HANDS of Lee Evans as we all have seen today. Best catch i've seen in a long time.
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I dreamed of reuniting those two during the summer, but then the Cardinals ruined that. It really would have been perfect, because the type of receiver I would want to bring in is like Fitz. We need a big bodied, sure-handed guy that can go up for the jump ball and create matchup problems with the corners. The closest thing available is Colston, who I like a lot, but he could be pretty expensive. Boldin only has another year left on his deal, I believe, so from a long term standpoint I don't think it'd be a bad idea to bring in someone like that. I just don't like seeing all of the dropped passes we've had this season, not just today. Something's gotta change.

[DMH_in_WA]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326672592' post='951831']

If we had Larry Fitzgerald, I don't even think Cam could mess up using him. Could you imagine a four WR set with Larry Facing JJ, Torrey covered by their number 2, Q by their number 3, and Lee by the number 4?
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Oh, you SO underestimate Cam Cameron.


As for the rest, I sure hope I misread that and someone wasn't comparing Flacco to Aaron Rodgers. I like Joe, but that's crack-pipe level crazy. Also, QB Rating is flawed and is not out of 100 (it's not a percentage). Top end is actually something like 158.2 max.
I think the thing that bails them out today (besides defense showing up big) was no turnovers (although they tried 3 times) and ZERO penalties. That's huge ... that's disciplined.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Ray Ray Ravens' timestamp='1326673235' post='951883']
How many of those 5000 yard Qbs do we play regularly? [b]We need to stop the run and be able to pass rush[/b]. O line has been a concern since the beginning of the season. Jah should be ready by next season so we have the depth at RG. Our biggest problem I see on the O line is Mckinney. Gurrode can atleast fill in for Birk if he decides its time to quit. We need someone to play behind Reed strongly. Then learn from him if he is still here next season. Mclain has been behind Lewis for a while and we seen he can fill in if we need him. Alot of things can happen next season that we have no clue about. Reed and Lewis could stay or leave.
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I agree, but we have Cody, Ngata, and McClain to help with the run, and now Suggs, Kruger, McPhee and hopefully Kindle to rush the passer. If a stud at one of those positions falls yeah take him, but it might not happen. We might have a shot at Peter Konz, the center from Wisconsin, but he could be gone as well. There are no left tackles that are in the range we pick, they're either top 20 or second round picks. I think the best bet may be to fix things in free agency (maybe Demetrius Bell for left tackle) and then trade for a first round pick in 2013. The talent just really isn't there this season.

[RavensFanInCA]

[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1326673570' post='951909']

Oh, you SO underestimate Cam Cameron.


As for the rest, I sure hope I misread that and someone wasn't comparing Flacco to Aaron Rodgers. I like Joe, but that's crack-pipe level crazy. Also, QB Rating is flawed and is not out of 100 (it's not a percentage). Top end is actually something like 158.2 max.
I think the thing that bails them out today (besides defense showing up big) was no turnovers (although they tried 3 times) and ZERO penalties. That's huge ... that's disciplined.
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Technically he asked about QBR, which is an ESPN specific stat that factors in game conditions and things. Haven't seen that rating yet.

[edit] Oh yeah, that was me "comparing" Flacco to Rodgers, although I wasn't so much comparing their skill/ability, but simply comparing their stats in today's games vs. the criticism they get.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1326673570' post='951909']

Oh, you SO underestimate Cam Cameron.


As for the rest, I sure hope I misread that and someone wasn't comparing Flacco to Aaron Rodgers. I like Joe, but that's crack-pipe level crazy. Also, QB Rating is flawed and is not out of 100 (it's not a percentage). Top end is actually something like 158.2 max.
I think the thing that bails them out today (besides defense showing up big) was no turnovers (although they tried 3 times) and ZERO penalties. That's huge ... that's disciplined.
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Where did I say anything about Flacco being Aaron Rodgers? Because I want to use 3, 4 and 5 WR sets on occasion instead of 2 WR sets on 95 percent of the plays we run? Flacco will never be Rodgers, just isn't accurate enough. Flacco's upside is somewhere between Eli Manning and Drew Brees. Rodgers will probably go down as top 10 all time. No way Flacco touches Rodgers. And I know QB rating is not out of 100, but Flacco has been ABYSMAL in the postseason, to say the least. He had a great day, for him, against a great passing defense. This is what I'm saying, it is his best postseason start ever.

[Ray Ray Ravens]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326673814' post='951924']

I agree, but we have Cody, Ngata, and McClain to help with the run, and now Suggs, Kruger, McPhee and hopefully Kindle to rush the passer. If a stud at one of those positions falls yeah take him, but it might not happen. We might have a shot at Peter Konz, the center from Wisconsin, but he could be gone as well. There are no left tackles that are in the range we pick, they're either top 20 or second round picks. I think the best bet may be to fix things in free agency (maybe Demetrius Bell for left tackle) and then trade for a first round pick in 2013. The talent just really isn't there this season.
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Thats what makes Ozzie the best. He finds guys that we or anyone else has never heard of. Our FO is one of the best when it comes to scouting talent outside of the radar. Ozzie just needs to find what we need and I believe he can.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1326673570' post='951909']

Oh, you SO underestimate Cam Cameron.


As for the rest, I sure hope I misread that and someone wasn't comparing Flacco to Aaron Rodgers. I like Joe, but that's crack-pipe level crazy. Also, QB Rating is flawed and is not out of 100 (it's not a percentage). Top end is actually something like 158.2 max.
I think the thing that bails them out today (besides defense showing up big) was no turnovers (although they tried 3 times) and ZERO penalties. That's huge ... that's disciplined.
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If you are referring to what i was saying, i was talking about the new stupid QBR System that ESPN made up. And i might have compared A.Rodgers and Flacco and if you have been watching the GB game, i would say Flacco has played alot better than A.Rodgers, im not saying Flacco is better but he was today, I only brought it up because i can see the Media getting on Flacco for the WRers fault and yet again making him look bad. Im very grateful that Flacco threw 2 TDs and no INTs. Now Flacco is 5 and 3 in the Play offs. What can they say. Oh and Rodgers WRers have been dropping balls like the RAVENS WRers but i bet they wont say anything about the RAVENS dropping but they will talk about the GB WRers dropping and saying they could have won. I SEE IT NOW, especially on FIRST TAKE, cant wait to see what vomits out of Skip Bayless's mouth. LOL

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Ray Ray Ravens' timestamp='1326674150' post='951948']
Thats what makes Ozzie the best. He finds guys that we or anyone else has never heard of. Our FO is one of the best when it comes to scouting talent outside of the radar. Ozzie just needs to find what we need and I believe he can.
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Yep. Our front office is the best. And what Chuck has done with Kruger shows you that oftentimes Ozzie gets the picks right, but coaching plays a big part in the product put on the field - and yes I'm referring to Cam "audibles are overrated" Cameron.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='RavensFanInCA' timestamp='1326673857' post='951931']

Technically he asked about QBR, which is an ESPN specific stat that factors in game conditions and things. Haven't seen that rating yet.

[edit] Oh yeah, that was me "comparing" Flacco to Rodgers, although I wasn't so much comparing their skill/ability, but simply comparing their stats in today's games vs. the criticism they get.
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Same here, didnt realized you posted that before i made my posted , we pretty much said the same EXACT thing,lol. To the T.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='PeRK82' timestamp='1326674223' post='951956']


If you are referring to what i was saying, i was talking about the new stupid QBR System that ESPN made up. And i might have compared A.Rodgers and Flacco and if you have been watching the GB game, i would say Flacco has played alot better than A.Rodgers, im not saying Flacco is better but he was today, I only brought it up because i can see the Media getting on Flacco for the WRers fault and yet again making him look bad. Im very grateful that Flacco threw 2 TDs and no INTs. Now Flacco is 5 and 3 in the Play offs. What can they say. Oh and Rodgers WRers have been dropping balls like the RAVENS WRers but i bet they wont say anything about the RAVENS dropping but they will talk about the GB WRers dropping and saying they could have won. I SEE IT NOW, especially on FIRST TAKE, cant wait to see what vomits out of Skip Bayless's mouth. LOL
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Skip doesn't believe half the things he says. I mean after all the vomit coming out of his mouth about Joe he ranked Joe the 5th best QB in the playoffs behind the four Superbowl winners. But now he'll crucify Flacco for his completion percentage, in spite of 1) the 5 drops, and 2) the fact that he defends Tim Tebow "religiously" (a pun, ha) when he routinely completes less than 50 percent of his passes.

[Ray Ray Ravens]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326674281' post='951961']

Yep. Our front office is the best. And what Chuck has done with Kruger shows you that oftentimes Ozzie gets the picks right, but coaching plays a big part in the product put on the field - and yes I'm referring to Cam "audibles are overrated" Cameron.
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Well audibles are over rated if you dont want production from your QB. We have the same thoughts against Cam. That guy is a virus for everyone involved on the offensive side of the ball.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326674455' post='951971']

Skip doesn't believe half the things he says. I mean after all the vomit coming out of his mouth about Joe he ranked Joe the 5th best QB in the playoffs behind the four Superbowl winners. But now he'll crucify Flacco for his completion percentage, in spite of 1) the 5 drops, and 2) the fact that he defends Tim Tebow "religiously" (a pun, ha) when he routinely completes less than 50 percent of his passes.
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You never know, he might, key word [b]MIGHT, [/b]take up for Flacco, you never know what will come out of his smirky little face[b].[/b]

[DMH_in_WA]

[quote name='RavensFanInCA' timestamp='1326673857' post='951931']

Technically he asked about QBR, which is an ESPN specific stat that factors in game conditions and things. Haven't seen that rating yet.

[edit] Oh yeah, that was me "comparing" Flacco to Rodgers, although I wasn't so much comparing their skill/ability, but simply comparing their stats in today's games vs. the criticism they get.
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I must have misread that and I agree. They will get different levels of criticism, but lets be honest. Rodgers has proven himself. He's the reigning SB champion QB and Superbowl MVP. This year, he threw for 4643 yards, averaged 9.25yds/attempt & 13.5yds/completion, 310 yards/game, threw 45 TDs with only 6 INTs and has a 68.3% completion percentage this year (2nd only to Brees). Compared to Joe, who do you give the benefit of the doubt?

Maybe not fair, but I think that's more than understandable. Especially how the offense moved today.

[PuRock]

Joe didn't have huge yardage. But he was able to make enough plays under great durress all game long. Our run game was stale, our O-Line was holey (un-holy) and Joe made enough plays to get points.

[BMORElegacy]

And NFL Network is already talking about Joe's "poor performance."

No wonder the guy gets fiesty at pressers.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1326675231' post='952031']

I must have misread that and I agree. They will get different levels of criticism, but lets be honest. Rodgers has proven himself. He's the reigning SB champion QB and Superbowl MVP. This year, he threw for 4643 yards, averaged 9.25yds/attempt & 13.5yds/completion, 310 yards/game, threw 45 TDs with only 6 INTs and has a 68.3% completion percentage this year (2nd only to Brees). Compared to Joe, who do you give the benefit of the doubt?

Maybe not fair, but I think that's more than understandable. Especially how the offense moved today.
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But would you say at least, on this day, that Joe outplayed Rodgers? Because I would.

[Ray Ray Ravens]

[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1326675231' post='952031']

I must have misread that and I agree. They will get different levels of criticism, but lets be honest. Rodgers has proven himself. He's the reigning SB champion QB and Superbowl MVP. This year, he threw for 4643 yards, averaged 9.25yds/attempt & 13.5yds/completion, 310 yards/game, threw 45 TDs with only 6 INTs and has a 68.3% completion percentage this year (2nd only to Brees). Compared to Joe, who do you give the benefit of the doubt?

Maybe not fair, but I think that's more than understandable. Especially how the offense moved today.
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And he lost!

[Ravenslifer]

What the heck? Now I know that total QBR is garbage. 18.2 for Flacco? When his QB rating was in the 90s? 2 TDS, no picks? 5 drops?