Cam Cameron Playcalling

[Suggs Package]

[quote name='BaltimoreBean' timestamp='1326841234' post='955908']
I keep reading that you either practice a higher number of plays, or you practice a smaller number but focus more on execution. So what's going on in practice? The plays are predictable and players aren't executing. It's not like we have a bunch of crap players. Ray, Anquan, Lee, Torrey, Dennis, Ed... That's why everyone blames Cam, it very well may be the players not executing... but you see these players excell on other teams. It is his job to teach his playbook.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1326839876' post='955836']

So you believe the skill players can't handle a more complex play-book?

I disagree that there's a compromise. You obviously practice fewer plays when you focus on execution, but inventiveness can supplement the plays you supposedly have down pat.

And honestly, if the focus of Cam's system was execution and there are specific plays the offense focuses on in practice, wouldn't we see less breakdowns in games? Is there a single passing play the team can hang their hats on? When Mase was here, I'd say it was the curl. But even that route doesn't seem as common now.

The overall scheme isn't the issue to me. Situational play-calling and predictability are.
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I don't think his playcalling or predictability are the main issues. Its the lack of execution. I'm with you BaltimoreBean, we clearly have some talent but to see them not reach their full potential is frustrating. And as fans its hard to see what's really going on because we don't coach the team.

Also, I do think some players on the team can't handle a more complex offense, mainly the younger guys. I'm not saying it as an insult on their intelligence but the NFL is tough. Torrey is a rookie, and even from watching at home, I can see he still hasn't learned some of the intricaties of playing WR at this level. And we're depending on him to get us to a Super Bowl. You gotta make things easy for him. Honestly, we don't have anyone on the roster who ran routes as good as Mase, therefore you're not gonna see that curl route or those outs that were almost automatic. Joe and Pitta has developed but its hard to say he's comfortable passing to anyone else on that level.

[The Raven]

[quote name='Suggs Package' timestamp='1326844007' post='956012']

I don't think his playcalling or predictability are the main issues. Its the lack of execution. I'm with you BaltimoreBean, we clearly have some talent but to see them not reach their full potential is frustrating. And as fans its hard to see what's really going on because we don't coach the team.

Also, I do think some players on the team can't handle a more complex offense, mainly the younger guys. I'm not saying it as an insult on their intelligence but the NFL is tough. Torrey is a rookie, and even from watching at home, I can see he still hasn't learned some of the intricaties of playing WR at this level. And we're depending on him to get us to a Super Bowl. You gotta make things easy for him. Honestly, we don't have anyone on the roster who ran routes as good as Mase, therefore you're not gonna see that curl route or those outs that were almost automatic. Joe and Pitta has developed but its hard to say he's comfortable passing to anyone else on that level.
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Well, predictability makes execution challenging. Then the defense knows what you're gonna do, and it's easier to stop. Should it still be executed? One would hope, but Cam's simple and predictable schemes make it a challenge.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Suggs Package' timestamp='1326844007' post='956012']
I don't think his playcalling or predictability are the main issues. Its the lack of execution. I'm with you BaltimoreBean, we clearly have some talent but to see them not reach their full potential is frustrating. And as fans its hard to see what's really going on because we don't coach the team.

Also, I do think some players on the team can't handle a more complex offense, mainly the younger guys. I'm not saying it as an insult on their intelligence but the NFL is tough. Torrey is a rookie, and even from watching at home, I can see he still hasn't learned some of the intricaties of playing WR at this level. And we're depending on him to get us to a Super Bowl. You gotta make things easy for him. Honestly, we don't have anyone on the roster who ran routes as good as Mase, therefore you're not gonna see that curl route or those outs that were almost automatic. Joe and Pitta has developed but its hard to say he's comfortable passing to anyone else on that level.
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Execution has most definitely been an issue. But whether it's the man issue or not is a debate none of us can answer. What we do know is his play-calling and predictability don't help the offense.

Torrey being a rookie doesn't mean you can't call on him to run a bubble screen on occasion. How many times has Cam run that play to him this season? He's run nine routes and I've seen him running slants, crossing routes, outs and ins.

I know none of the WRs run routes as well as Mason, and as a result, the curl hasn't been run as much. But that doesn't mean the offense shouldn't have a play they can go to. You've focused your end of the discussion on the young players. What about Q? Why hasn't Cam run a single screen to him in the red-zone in the two seasons he's been here? Why has he probably run less than 20 screens to him and about the same number of slants?

Or Evans. He's still got enough speed to get behind DBs. But when has Cam made an effort to let him utilize his speed other than nine routes?

I could care less if those plays aren't staples of the Air Coryell. Working them into his play-book wouldn't mean moving away from the Air Coryell entirely.

[Perfekt]

ER20 i agree with you about changing your scheme to fit your players. Its like have a square and trying to fit it thru a hole built for a circle its not going to work out.

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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1326844345' post='956021']

Well, predictability makes execution challenging. Then the defense knows what you're gonna do, and it's easier to stop. Should it still be executed? One would hope, but Cam's simple and predictable schemes make it a challenge.
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Yes, predictability makes it a challenge usually to execute. Our offense is designed to isolate defenders though. Our staple routes, the out and post in particular, are designed to give receivers single coverage on every play. You overcompensate to cover the sidelines and you leave the field wide open. Therefore there isn't much you can do generally to slow the defense from the backend. Its all about inidividual matchups, beating the man in front of you. Its usually up to the OL to block and Joe to make a good throw.

The way predictability can hurt us is when teams correctly guess when to blitz however because a lot of our route are longer developing.