This Joe Flacco Hate

[AmericanSatire]

[size=3][font=comic sans ms,cursive]All the Joe Flacco hating going on inspired my sig...[/font][/size]

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='BmoreRavens732' timestamp='1326496897' post='946199']
I showed a few friends who arent even ravens fans a few of his responses in previous posts and all they could do is laugh at the little fella lmao this guy is beyond worse then steeler fans cuz even they give flacco credit (they have to) but still ive never met someone so stubborn smh..its like he sets up candles in a circle in a dark room with flaccos picture in the center and just curses him or worships the moment he has a bad game lol unbelievable!!!
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Dude, I'm telling you, he's flat out not a Ravens fan. He never says anything positive about any player ever (unless he's forced to, lol). He just gets on here and bashes Flacco. Doesn't even bother praising Rice or Q or Boldin, or any defensive player. Just bashes Flacco. Then makes bets that we will lose like every game. Does that sound like a fan to you? Just consider him a troll or a Steelers fan, that's what I do. I ignore the guy until he makes stupid posts that are wrong and call him on it. He likes the attention, and hates being wrong, so don't respond unless you call him on something wrong (i.e., like his ignorance about how many times Steve DeBerg fumbled in his career).

[BmoreRavens732]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326497169' post='946205']

Dude, I'm telling you, he's flat out not a Ravens fan. He never says anything positive about any player ever (unless he's forced to, lol). He just gets on here and bashes Flacco. Doesn't even bother praising Rice or Q or Boldin, or any defensive player. Just bashes Flacco. Then makes bets that we will lose like every game. Does that sound like a fan to you? Just consider him a troll or a Steelers fan, that's what I do. I ignore the guy until he makes stupid posts that are wrong and call him on it. He likes the attention, and hates being wrong, so don't respond unless you call him on something wrong (i.e., like his ignorance about how many times Steve DeBerg fumbled in his career).
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yeah im done responding to him lol its a,waste of time...i just cant see how he calls himself a fan smh

[sliceanddic3]

Flacco just got some love on NFL 32 on ESPN!! Mort and some other analyst said that Flacco has proved that he can throw and lead this team to a victory (he mentioned the ARZ game and the PIT game where he drove us and won it). The other analyst (can't think of his name, sorry xP) said that he is one of the few people who think Flacco can throw the ball a lot and win the Ravens games.

[PeRK82]

I dont want any blame going to Flacco if all we do is run the ball on 1st ,2nd and then try and throw it on 3rd and long. Oh and on the 3rd and long, the offense would still line up as if they are going to run it. Cam thinks he really has everyone Fooled,lol.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='wizard1' timestamp='1326489275' post='946063']
HaHa Bill Lambeer and Dennis Rodman in what world were they ever stars. and in all the years Setve Deberg played in the NFL and I believe it was 18 he had a total of 12 fumbles Flacco has that many this year alone. Yes I would say ( considering the offensive lines he played behind) Deberg was a better QB than Joe Flacco
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Steve Deberg: 83 fumbles over 20 years. Or better, 83 in 206 games, 140 starts, 63 lost. That's .4 fumbles a game, or .6 fumbles a start. Joe Flacco 39 fumbles in 64 career starts, or .6 fumbles a start. Dead even. And considering that guys like Randy Cross (3 time pro bowler), Fred Quillan (2 time pro bowler), Keith Fahnhorst (1 time pro bowler), etc. were blocking for him, and he was throwing to receivers like Rick Upchurch (4 time pro bowler), Riley Odoms (4 time pro bowler), Jimmie Giles (4 time pro bowler), etc., I'm pretty sure he had much more to work with than Joe Flacco has had. The only time he had equal or less talent were his last few years in Kansas City. But of course, I'm sure you have your spin on how Deberg had pro bowl lineman and pro bowl receivers but is somehow better than Joe Flacco, who has worked with a tight end who went to the prowbowl almost a decade ago, a receiver who went to the pro bowl as a special teamer over a decade ago, and Q.

[PurpleCorsair]

[quote name='wizard1' timestamp='1326495496' post='946175']
I agree-say what you want about Trent Dilfer but at the very least-he got us there and won it-I just don't see it happening with Flacco. In 2000 somehow I knew we were going to win it all we had to with that defense- today I cringe everytime Flacco drops back because he has proven to be unreliable.He just doesn't have the tools in other words he a few fries short of a happy meal. and right now I need the full meal deal!
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Trent Dilfer with the Ravens
134 of 226 59.3 pct 1,502 Yards 6.6 YPA 12 TD 11 INT 23 SCK 135 SCKy 76.6 Rating

Trent Dilfer's best year as a full time starter
217 of 386 56.2 pct 2,555 Yards 6.6 YPA 21 TD 11 INT 32 SCK 196 SCKy 82.8 Rating

Joe Flacco [i]as a rookie[/i]
257 of 428 60.3 pct 2,971 Yards 6.9 YPA 14 TD 12 INT 32 SCK 276 SCKy 80.3 Rating

[Bltravens]

[quote name='AmericanSatire' timestamp='1326496942' post='946201']
[size=3][font=comic sans ms,cursive]All the Joe Flacco hating going on inspired my sig...[/font][/size]
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Haha, I love how youre the only person to write in a different font.

[Bltravens]

This entire playoff run comes down to Flacco's play. He needs to have games like he did against the Chiefs last year in the playoffs, and not games like any other ones basically. We go as far as Flacco takes us, its that simple. This run is also going to dictate Flacco's future financial ability. We win the whole thing and he is getting paaaaaid over about 6 or 7 years. He struggles again and he's looking at a mid range deal in the 3 year range.

[BaltimoreBean]

Sal Paolantonio just had a good segment on ESPN Sportscenter about everyone doubting Joe, and how Joe is the only QB this year to face a top 10 defense 11 times and his record is 9-2 facing those defenses.

Link to the article. http://espn.go.com/nfl/notebook/_/page/sundaycountdown11/your-weekly-nfl-guide

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='BaltimoreBean' timestamp='1326505043' post='946307']
Sal Paolantonio just had a good segment on ESPN Sportscenter about everyone doubting Joe, and how Joe is the only QB this year to face a top 10 defense 11 times and his record is 9-2 facing those defenses.

Link to the article. [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/notebook/_/page/sundaycountdown11/your-weekly-nfl-guide"]http://espn.go.com/n...eekly-nfl-guide[/url]
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Just read the posters on that board for more Joe Flacco hate.

[BaltimoreBean]

It's on now on ESPN, so I guess it comes on about 20 min into Sportscenter. Which comes on again at 10.

[RavensRock1996]

Listen up all Flacco Haters.

I'm Sorry Joe Flacco doesn't throw for 5000 yards.
I'm Sorry Joe Flacco doesn't throw for 40 touchdowns.
I'm Sorry Joe Flacco doesn't break records and win MVPs.
I'm Sorry Joe Flacco plays in the best division in football, and has to face the best defenses in the league.
I'm Sorry Joe Flacco's OC hasa a leash on him and likes to make poor, predictable calls.
I'm Sorry Joe Flacco doesn't have great recievers who catch, literally, anything and everything and bail their QB out alot.
I'm Most Definately sorry for having the best Running Back in the Leauge..
And of course I'm sorry that the Ravens have a great Defense and a great Running Game, so Joe Flacco DOESN'T have to put up rediculous amounts of yards and touchdowns.

But i have 100% confidence in our QB that when he is needed, and CAN and WILL go out there and make the plays needed to win, because he has done it multiple times before.

[atlravensfan]

Im not the biggest flacco fan(kind of an understatement) but when people in the media judge him I think they do it to him the same way they did eli before he won a superbowl. They dont like his way. He is like Steve McQueen very understated but quiet and cool. Regardless of how I feel about him the media just plain makes stuff up. I doubt most of them even watch our games expect the ones that are on ESPN or NBC. I love my team and my city. The jury is still out for me on flacco until I see him with a ANdy Reid/Norv Turner/Jim Harbaugh kinda guy that calls plays for a players strong points and develops QBs.

[atlravensfan]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1326504538' post='946301']
This entire playoff run comes down to Flacco's play. He needs to have games like he did against the Chiefs last year in the playoffs, and not games like any other ones basically. We go as far as Flacco takes us, its that simple. This run is also going to dictate Flacco's future financial ability. We win the whole thing and he is getting paaaaaid over about 6 or 7 years. He struggles again and he's looking at a mid range deal in the 3 year range.
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Naw I look for a team to break the bank on flacco. See kevin Kolb, Matt Scaub, Philip Rivers, Mike Vick, I can keep going. I feel you on the playoff run but some team or owner(Jerry Jones or Daniel Synder) will break bank of a QB with 4 str8 playoff appearences.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='wizard1' timestamp='1326493203' post='946137']
I'm not hoping he fails-I know from a historical perspective he will fail. Listen Joe Flacco ended up at Deleware because he had to ride the bench behind Tyler Palko. He has been solely responsible for some of the most hilarious plays in NFL history. I'm not betting against my team but rather than admit I'm right about Flacco you guys stand behind a QB who will never go to a Superbowl-EVER. That the peoples choice and everyone has a right as a fan and supporter of the Baltimore Ravens to express their choice. This is why we don't get the press like other teams. We have a quarterback who is capable of being Johnny Untitas on one play and Jerry Lewis on another. Ever seen Tom Brady complete a pass to himself behind the line of scrimmage and then run backwards for a 15 yards loss? Ever seen [b]Drew Brees fumble the ball 12 rimes[/b] in a season or see Arron Rodgers have a 50% completion percentage for a whole year? Of course not. How about have you seen Flacco approach 41 Tds in a year like Matthew Stafford did in his 3rd. How about throw for 5000 yards or even 4000? Joe has a great supporting cast but even Dan Marino, Brian Sipe, Joe Ferguson, Jim Kelly, Warren Moon,, Randall Cunningham and dozens of other quarterbacks who were more talented tha Joe Flacco could never win a superbowl and in most cases never really came close.Yes I love my Baltimore Ravens but with Joe Flacco we might be on the race track but the last time I saw him he did not look like Secretariat.
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First, you're not a very good speller. Second, no Brees never had 12 fumbles, but he had 10 once, 9 once, and 8 twice And Joe never fumbled 12 times either. His highest was 11. Do you know John Elway fumbled 12 times or more 3 times in his career, and Tom Brady's first 3 years as a starter in the league he fumbled 12, 11, and 13 times? You know, when he won 2 Superbowls. Of course you don't. And Flacco's completion percentage was 58 percent this year. Drew Brees was 57 percent his 3rd year in the league. You are one of the worst users of stats of all time. Half the time you get stats wrong, and all of the time your stats are meaningless. You cherry-pick what you want, and ignore everything else. Why bother with stats. when they work against your case?

But that's not the worst thing about you. You call yourself a true Ravens fan, but you would rather see Ed Reed (who lost his brother last year, btw), maybe the greatest safety in the history of the game and the second greatest Raven in franchise history, retire without getting a Superbowl ring. You would rather the greatest leader in NFL history, Ray Lewis, the best inside linebacker in NFL history and a top-10 player ALL TIME, to retire this year in defeat rather than victory, just so you can get on here and crow about the failures of the quarterback he plays with.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='BaltimoreBean' timestamp='1326505043' post='946307']
Sal Paolantonio just had a good segment on ESPN Sportscenter about everyone doubting Joe, and how Joe is the only QB this year to face a top 10 defense 11 times and his record is 9-2 facing those defenses.

Link to the article. [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/notebook/_/page/sundaycountdown11/your-weekly-nfl-guide"]http://espn.go.com/n...eekly-nfl-guide[/url]
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Just about to put this, great segment. People just dont understand, when you face great Defenses, have a great running back and a bunch of young recievers your stats wont look great. Plus having a deep threat now and throwing it deep will make your completion % go down. I really think Joe had a great year. He has done everything and more we expected him to do this season

[BaltimoreBean]

Those talking heads don't even follow our team. Guy on NFL Network tonight announced that Ray Lewis will play this weekend after missing the last 4 games of the season...

[atlravensfan]

[quote name='BaltimoreBean' timestamp='1326513263' post='946408']
Those talking heads don't even follow our team. Guy on NFL Network tonight announced that Ray Lewis will play this weekend after missing the last 4 games of the season...
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I feel you. Man forreal the media in all aspects sucks man not just in sports

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='BaltimoreBean' timestamp='1326513263' post='946408']
Those talking heads don't even follow our team. Guy on NFL Network tonight announced that Ray Lewis will play this weekend after missing the last 4 games of the season...
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Well he did miss 4 games, so at least the guy got something right. Unlike certain fans of a certain team who seem to think the Ravens have never won a playoff game under Flacco.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1326511678' post='946394']
Just about to put this, great segment. People just dont understand, when you face great Defenses, have a great running back and a bunch of young recievers your stats wont look great. Plus having a deep threat now and throwing it deep will make your completion % go down. I really think Joe had a great year. He has done everything and more we expected him to do this season
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More importantly: Flacco against playoff teams this year: 62.9% completions, 8 TDs, 2 INTs. He had a rating of 100 or better in four of the six games he played against playoff teams, and one of the ones he didn't have it in was that one in Pittsburgh. The other was Houston, but remember we were still without Grubbs and Evans then.

[AmericanSatire]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1326504444' post='946299']
Haha, I love how youre the only person to write in a different font.
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[Alexir]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326472127' post='945750']

the other ones were about the media giving us no respect, this one is about this movement the media has come up with since the Ravens had a bye to put pressure all on Joe Flacco, its not some slight its freakin real...i watch every sports talk show there is and they have all turned on Flacco pretty much

its crazy , even some of the articles on this site have brought it up

(move it if u want to, i dont care..its just BS)
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[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326472127' post='945750']

the other ones were about the media giving us no respect, this one is about this movement the media has come up with since the Ravens had a bye to put pressure all on Joe Flacco, its not some slight its freakin real...i watch every sports talk show there is and they have all turned on Flacco pretty much

its crazy , even some of the articles on this site have brought it up

(move it if u want to, i dont care..its just BS)
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The Media see him what he is this year (slumping) and people not wearing purple shades can realize it. He is a good game manager but when you have an elite defense and an elite running back, the only thing thats holding this team back from a superbowl is a passing game and unfortunately for a 4th year QB, the spot light and blame goes on him. It's something he has to deal with (and which he can, he has thick skin). His consistency is a problem.

It does Irk me that they don't attack Matt Ryan or Josh Freeman.

[Raven Hammer]

[quote name='DieHardBMoreFan' timestamp='1326476191' post='945841']
Listen...Here goes my rant, and i say this seriously.

I don't think there is another QB i would rather have, in our system, than Flacco. Bash all you want, i'm being serious here. Here are my reasons.

1. Just look at this wins, he has BROKEN NFL RECORDS. Now granted, this is a team sport and Flacco didn't win these games himself, but could another QB of done it? who knows, i know Flacco did.
2. I really don't think any of the league's "elite" QB's would fit here. We run a balanced offence, not a pass heavy offense. We have one of the league's best RB's and I feel that if we had a Brady, Brees or Rodgers there would be some team frustration/arguments on who gets the ball-causing problems in the locker room/team issues.
3. You just can't look at Joe's stats and base your decision off of it. Stats don’t mean anything in my book. His pass completion % means nothing. Are you taking into consideration the number of drops he had ( I know he didn't have a significant amount more than anybody else but still)? Are you taking into consideration how many pass attempts he had vs other QB's (he is actually up there in comparison to others)? Are you taking into consideration how many high risk/high reward passes he made (20+yds)? Are you taking into consideration that our WR/TE corps are young, for the most part? There are so many variables here that you can't just look at his pass completion % and say his is good, bad, ugly or whatever.
4. He is a tough QB. At least 50% of the QB's in the league could not handle our division, the most competative and hard hitting devision in the NFL. Joe has never missed a game. Heck, a lot of people give him a lot of flack for one of his playoff performances in the past but do you remember he was playing with a horribly bad leg? Joe is one tough guy, i don't think Brady could handle the hits Joe takes all year.
5. He is a team player. You don't see him going for glory. You don't see him in media frenzy's (recently maybe…). Joe plays for the team, not for his own personal stats etc..
6. Cam Cameron restrictions, nuff' said.

I know a lot of people here won't agree on all of these points, but hopefully you can agree with at least a few. I am proud to have Joe as our QB and I'm very serious about saying I wouldn't trade him for another in the league. Yes sure there is a lot of Ravens pride built into that statement but heck, i'm a die hard ravens fan that supports the team no matter what, and why not throw some extra support to a QB that has done some amazing things in his 4 year career.

Go Ravens, Go Flacco!!!!
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Well said Couldn't have said it better myself

[chesapeakeaviator]

If at this point, after everything we have accomplished, you can't show faith in your QB, you're not on board. You're not a Ravens fan.

It's fine to have your doubts. It's fine to recognize and criticize the faults that Flacco does possess (no one says he's perfect or the best quarterback in the NFL). Even the diehards of the "top four" are harsh with their guys and could tell you why you're wrong and why Joe possesses some characteristics and qualities that their own guy doesn't, and why crucial games have been lost when a Flacco-type could have won it.

However, this is playoff time. We have shown who we are. We woke up and beat every single playoff-caliber team we have played. If you can't give Flacco credit for that--and recognize how AMAZING that is in this league--then I don't know, man...

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1326519774' post='946443']



The Media see him what he is this year (slumping) and people not wearing purple shades can realize it. He is a good game manager but when you have an elite defense and an elite running back, the only thing thats holding this team back from a superbowl is a passing game and unfortunately for a 4th year QB, the spot light and blame goes on him. It's something he has to deal with (and which he can, he has thick skin). His consistency is a problem.

It does Irk me that they don't attack [b]Matt Ryan[/b] or Josh Freeman.
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I'm hoping that after this year, he will stop being referred to as "Matty Ice" and they will instead call him "Matty 0-3". And Freeman is something else. Don't know if you've been to Tampa, but from what I here he can do no wrong there. Some people have told me that the fans in Tampa treat Freeman like he's Tom Brady.

[chesapeakeaviator]

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I'm hoping that after this year, he will stop being referred to as "Matty Ice" and they will instead call him "Matty 0-3". And Freeman is something else. Don't know if you've been to Tampa, but from what I here he can do no wrong there. Some people have told me that the fans in Tampa treat Freeman like he's Tom Brady.
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I believe it, but yikes! He sure was shaky this year, even with a heck of a running attack, pretty good OL, and decent guys to target...

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='chesapeakeaviator' timestamp='1326563089' post='946642']

I believe it, but yikes! He sure was[b] shaky[/b] this year, even with a heck of a running attack, pretty good OL, and [b]decent[/b] guys to target...
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Lol I think those are understatements, to say the least. His completion percentage was under 55, he tossed only 16 TDs and had 22 picks, and his receivers are a tight end that went to the pro bowl with [i]the Browns[/i], and DEREK ANDERSON as his quarterback, and a wide receiver who was seen as the second best if not tied for the best wide receiver in the 2010 draft. Talent/experience wise they're better right now than our tight ends and Mike Williams is better than Torrey Smith at this point (I think in a few years Torrey is going to be a flat out beast, but not yet). And still, none of it was Freeman's fault, it was everyone else.

[chesapeakeaviator]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326563458' post='946648']

Lol I think those are understatements, to say the least. His completion percentage was under 55, he tossed only 16 TDs and had 22 picks, and his receivers are a tight end that went to the pro bowl with [i]the Browns[/i], and DEREK ANDERSON as his quarterback, and a wide receiver who was seen as the second best if not tied for the best wide receiver in the 2010 draft. Talent/experience wise they're better right now than our tight ends and Mike Williams is better than Torrey Smith at this point (I think in a few years Torrey is going to be a flat out beast, but not yet). And still, none of it was Freeman's fault, it was everyone else.
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You are absolutely correct, agree on all points! Just was trying to be, err... diplomatic? hahah

[OriolesMagicPlease]

I think that "Wizard" is probably trolling for attention. If he is for real, however, I don't feel anger towards his comments, I pity him. If you are a fan and can't be optimistic and happy at this time, right before a home playoff game, that is a sad statement. I feel sorry for those who go through life so negative.

So, no matter what happens tomorrow (and I think we are going to win), I am so proud of my team and my quarterback. Let's not forget that they win and lose as a team. I wouldn't want to be a fan of any other team right now. GO RAVENS!!! [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/football.gif[/img]