Plays The Ravens Rely On.

[Bltravens]

I came across this article that outlined some specific plays that Cameron utilizes, and specifically utilized against the Texans in the last match up. The guy that wrote it does a good job of explaining the play x's and o's style, breaking down what happened in the game, and then why it worked. It was a short one page blurb that's a good, quick read. The plays are basic NFL plays, just kind of unnerving that "iso, out, and bomb" is our bread and butter.

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45949793/ns/sports-nfl/

[Ravenslifer]

It's sad that our offense is that simple. And explains perfectly why we struggle when we don't run. Without play-action to disguise the few passing plays we run, everyone knows what's coming. Hopefully we see lots of play-action that will force the Texans to think, otherwise we could be in for a very long day.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1326343264' post='944363']
I came across this article that outlined some specific plays that Cameron utilizes, and specifically utilized against the Texans in the last match up. The guy that wrote it does a good job of explaining the play x's and o's style, breaking down what happened in the game, and then why it worked. It was a short one page blurb that's a good, quick read. The plays are basic NFL plays,[u][b] just kind of unnerving that "iso, out, and bomb" is our bread and butter.[/b][/u]

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first...i'm glad we're in the playoffs again...of course! however, i agree 100%. Cam's gotta to switch this junk up now that we are in the playoffs and the gaming system is "one and done!" Cam's gotta throw in a few more wrinkles to keep the defense honest such as; screens, draws, pitches and tosses and quick slants over the middle of the field (ala Denver's OT win vs the steelers this past weekend-it was a quick slant). he needs to draw up more passes for our TEs as well. keep the defense on their heels!

~Mili

[mdrsharon]

how about that first Steelers game?
trick plays, fake punts, etc. - we looked so strong - and daring!
I know that they won't take chances in the playoffs, but if we changed it up a bit - it might knock the socks of other teams who will be watching our films and knowing what comes next.

[bauer77]

[quote name='mdrsharon' timestamp='1326347235' post='944411']
how about that first Steelers game?
trick plays, fake punts, etc. - we looked so strong - and daring!
I know that they won't take chances in the playoffs, but if we changed it up a bit - it might knock the socks of other teams who will be watching our films and knowing what comes next.
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I agree, i hope they don't take many chances either. Totally off topic, but Mike Smith of the Falcons took chances against the Giants, went for it on almost every 4th down, and it killed them. Cam definitely can't be running the run, run, pass type of possession that he likes to run time after time.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

I had to double check whether this sentence was actually written or not:

[quote]Cameron’s offense is designed to maximize the strengths of his personnel in very straightforward ways[/quote]

[good_n_purple]

"the Ravens are very good at the [color=#ff0000][b]few[/b][/color] things they do"....my god...that statement sums up Cams creativity. Scary.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1326343692' post='944367']
It's sad that our offense is that simple. And explains perfectly why we struggle when we don't run. Without play-action to disguise the few passing plays we run, everyone knows what's coming. Hopefully we see lots of play-action that will force the Texans to think, otherwise we could be in for a very long day.
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It's not really that simple, those are just two plays lol. We run a lot of different plays including a lot of inside and outside zone runs that werent mentioned. We also use a lot of 21 and even 22 personnel to create match up advantages. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to watch some film and pick out 2 staple plays. Every OC has go to plays that he will run on multiple occasions. Cam only gets predictable when we have a 2 score lead, that to me is the problem and hopefully it wont bite us in the playoffs.

[baltravens]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1326343264' post='944363']
I came across this article that outlined some specific plays that Cameron utilizes, and specifically utilized against the Texans in the last match up. The guy that wrote it does a good job of explaining the play x's and o's style, breaking down what happened in the game, and then why it worked. It was a short one page blurb that's a good, quick read. The plays are basic NFL plays, just kind of unnerving that "iso, out, and bomb" is our bread and butter.

[url="http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/45949793/ns/sports-nfl/"]http://nbcsports.msn.../ns/sports-nfl/[/url]
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Not knocking the thread, but breaking down the NFL to [u]X[/u]'s and [u]O[/u]'s only go some far. If you can [b]execute [/b]what is on paper, you have a better chance at winning the game.

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='baltravens' timestamp='1326390179' post='944837']
Not knocking the thread, but breaking down the NFL to [u]X[/u]'s and [u]O[/u]'s only go some far. If you can [b]execute [/b]what is on paper, you have a better chance at winning the game.
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Execution always trumps scheme.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='baltravens' timestamp='1326390179' post='944837']
Not knocking the thread, but breaking down the NFL to [u]X[/u]'s and [u]O[/u]'s only go some far. If you can [b]execute [/b]what is on paper, you have a better chance at winning the game.
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Thats precisely why teams game plan though, to take away what you do.

[True]

Might explain the whole "recievers don't get seperation" because CBs know what you will do and just have to beat you (usually with man) straight up. Remember Jacksonville on MNF and the historic ineptness of the offense?

The hardest thing for a CB to know is what kind of route a reciever is going to run because they have to make adjustments on the fly. Taking away that unpredictability really hinders your passing game.

[baltravens]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1326391382' post='944867']
Thats precisely why teams game plan though, to take away what you do.
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I say overall we game planned very well in 2011. The Jacksonville, Seattle, and San Diego games were when we were at our worst. (We came out flat against Tennessee.) Not to sound trite, but you are not going to win every game; you are going to get out-played sometime.
I think we will defeat Houston, we are just too talented.

[Suggs Package]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1326392026' post='944879']
Might explain the whole "recievers don't get seperation" because CBs know what you will do and just have to beat you (usually with man) straight up. Remember Jacksonville on MNF and the historic ineptness of the offense?

The hardest thing for a CB to know is what kind of route a reciever is going to run because they have to make adjustments on the fly. Taking away that unpredictability really hinders your passing game.
[/quote]

Yes it does, but generally, our WRs run two basic routes, outs and flys, which are perfect complements to each other. If you bite on an out and a receiver is running a fly, you give up a touchdown. If you bite on a fly, the out is there and you give up a big completion. Most CBs will play conservatively and rarely try to jump out routes in fear of giving up the big play, unless they know the safety is in position to make the play. The out route is probably one of the toughest routes to defend in football because it forces one-on-one man coverage no matter what the safeties are doing. The key is to stay in your back peddle for as long as possible so you can drive when the receiver makes the turn. Very few CBs can run backwards like Deion Sanders, so it will put a lot of pressure on them.

Flacco and Mason ran the out route to perfection, which always baffled me because Mason was rarely a threat to go deep. But that just shows that if the timing is right, the out route can be nearly impossible to defend. I think our problems this year is timing; Joe not trusting the WRs to be in a certain area when he releases the ball because I'd say Joe throws the best out in the NFL.

[FlaccoLover928]

I don't know what you guys expect running plays are never complicated

[baltravens]

Exactly.
I could add that football is a simple game of blocking and tackling.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='FlaccoLover928' timestamp='1326396979' post='944954']
I don't know what you guys expect running plays are never complicated
[/quote]
Thats not what, at least myself, is perplexed by. I know running plays are simple, Iso's, Powers, Stretch, are not complicated. Its the pass that's always been puzzling for me with Cameron.

[bauer77]

[quote name='FlaccoLover928' timestamp='1326396979' post='944954']
I don't know what you guys expect running plays are never complicated
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Tell that to Cam. [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/laugh.png[/img]

[gabefergy]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1326392026' post='944879']
Might explain the whole "recievers don't get seperation" because CBs know what you will do and just have to beat you (usually with man) straight up. Remember Jacksonville on MNF and the historic ineptness of the offense?

The hardest thing for a CB to know is what kind of route a reciever is going to run because they have to make adjustments on the fly. Taking away that unpredictability really hinders your passing game.
[/quote]
I remember them getting away with mugging our receivers on basically every pass play.

[hawkprey]

This just shows that Cam leans on the abilities of our individual playmakers. He adds nothing.

[Ngata92NT]

It's not fair to Cameron and the Ravens to say this article sums up the entire offensive scheme. In reality, Cameron does get creative with the playcalls occasionally, using motion, double moves, slants, and screens to WRs and TEs. However, when the run isn't effective the offense sputters, mostly due to Cam's stubborn play-calling. Joe can spread it out very effectively when Cameron gives him the chance. But our defense and running game neccesitate a conservative approach, sometimes too conservative.

Last game against the Texans we ran play-action on nearly every passing play and it made me berserk because the defense wasn't falling for it. Luckily Flacco bailed us out with some truly magnificent throws under pressure. Anyone who wants to criticize Flacco should go watch that game. You can count the number of QBs who can make some of those throws with pressure in their face on one hand.

[Alexir]

we need to utilize the middle of the field more. I've always felt we don't attack between the hashes like other teams. But at this point, Not gonna complain about the play calling because its not changing in the post season. Lets just hope it gets the job done

[Suggs Package]

[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1326430530' post='945454']
we need to utilize the middle of the field more. I've always felt we don't attack between the hashes like other teams. But at this point, Not gonna complain about the play calling because its not changing in the post season. Lets just hope it gets the job done
[/quote]

I agree. And I do think our current passing game will be enough.

The thing about our passing offense is that there's relatively easy reads but relatively difficult throws physically. This suited Joe best when coming into the league because he was much further ahead physically than mentally. Its pretty predictable, but also harder to defend against because ILBs and Safeties will have minimal impact in the passing game. When teams try to compensate and shift defenders to the sidelines, you get the middle of the field wide open.

There's not much defenses can do to stop it coverage wise, but their emphasis will be to get pressure to disrupt timing and force inaccurate throws or simply sack Flacco.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='mdrsharon' timestamp='1326347235' post='944411']
how about that first Steelers game?
trick plays, fake punts, etc. - we looked so strong - and daring!
I know that they won't take chances in the playoffs, but if we changed it up a bit - it might knock the socks of other teams who will be watching our films and knowing what comes next.
[/quote]

I'm seriously beginning to think Cam was sick that day and somebody else was calling the plays. It was the most brilliantly called and executed game I think I've seen in the four years of this regime. I had such high hopes for this offense after that game. Now, I feel more frustrated than ever, because I know what we are capable of and I haven't seen it since.