Ok This Makes Noooo Sense (Texans Message Boards)

[theFRANCHISE]

I have no beef with the Texans. They're a talented team and they deserved to win the AFC South this year. Their front office doesn't get enough credit for turning the franchise around this season after years of gradual improvement.

That said, I feel bad for Texans fans who have to deal with guys like the OP of that thread who act like they're world-beaters after winning their first playoff game ever. That's just embarassing. Even though the Texans have never made it this far before, act like you've been there, y'know?

Otherwise, the majority of Texans fans are classy, as far as I know. They, unlike their simple-minded brethren, can appreciate the little things since the team hasn't had much success in its short history.

[Texunsss]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1326085952' post='940556']
Trust me, you don't want the big names. You'll end up like the Jets, Redskins and Eagles. Its Best to build from within and the draft like the Packers, Steelers, Ravens and Pats.

In all honesty your team is pretty complete. Just need to fire your strength and conditioning coach. Injuries have absolutely killed you this year. Luckily you had some talent in the pipeline.
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Indeed.The whole "Next Man Up" attitude. Houston has drafted really well the last couple of years. I mean we passed up Reggie Bush and Vince Young for WIlliams lol. Thanks to our drafts, we have players who have stepped up with not much of a drop off in production. Kareem Jackson though is a different story. People down here hate that guy. People want to argue that last year should be overlooked because he had no one to teach him, but in big game time moments opposing teams still exploit him. I blame our field more than anything though as far as injuries. Just look at Foster, he slips almost 3 times a game at home.

[Texunsss]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1326086288' post='940567']
I have no beef with the Texans. They're a talented team and they deserved to win the AFC South this year. Their front office doesn't get enough credit for turning the franchise around this season after years of gradual improvement.

That said, I feel bad for Texans fans who have to deal with guys like the OP of that thread who act like they're world-beaters after winning their first playoff game ever. That's just embarassing. Even though the Texans have never made it this far before, act like you've been there, y'know?

Otherwise, the majority of Texans fans are classy, as far as I know. They, unlike their simple-minded brethren, can appreciate the little things since the team hasn't had much success in its short history.
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I fully agree with this. Houston hasn't had a championship since the 94,95 Rockets and the city is pretty wild right now. You'll just have to excuse the morons.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Texunsss' timestamp='1326086419' post='940570']


Indeed.The whole "Next Man Up" attitude. Houston has drafted really well the last couple of years. I mean we passed up Reggie Bush and Vince Young for WIlliams lol. Thanks to our drafts, we have players who have stepped up with not much of a drop off in production. Kareem Jackson though is a different story. People down here hate that guy. People want to argue that last year should be overlooked because he had no one to teach him, but in big game time moments opposing teams still exploit him. I blame our field more than anything though as far as injuries. Just look at Foster, he slips almost 3 times a game at home.
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Yea I thought that was the right move with Williams during the draft, ofcourse we Ravens fans seem to enjoy the defense side of things.

But boy did the Texans get crap for that. Who's laughing now?

I also think it was better for Leinhart to get injured. Yates is better but you might have been stuck with Leinhart. I think you would have struggled more.

[Yatagarasu]

Let them be...

Talk is cheap.

You can't underestimate anyone in the playoffs like the Steelers did against the Broncos.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Texunsss' timestamp='1326086509' post='940572']


I fully agree with this. Houston hasn't had a championship since the 94,95 Rockets and the city is pretty wild right now. You'll just have to excuse the morons.
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Ah yea, I was a younger lad, confused and misguided. I found myself as a Shaq/Magic fan. Then they got swept by the Rockets and Shaq sold out to the Lakers.

[Texunsss]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1326086793' post='940577']
Yea I thought that was the right move with Williams during the draft, ofcourse we Ravens fans seem to enjoy the defense side of things.

But boy did the Texans get crap for that. Who's laughing now?

I also think it was better for Leinhart to get injured. Yates is better but you might have been stuck with Leinhart. I think you would have struggled more.
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See, the argument from the other side is Leinart put up 17 points in that first half against Jax which on average is more than Yates puts up in a whole game. Who knows, its a mess down here and all we can do is stand by our next man up...Regardless of who is at QB this Sunday, they would have a tough time. If Yates can pull it off though, most Houstonians will not want Schaub back, which is a shame because he really has never had a good defense to work with.

[reediddy]

Hahaha wow is that guy serious? We haven't proven anything this postseason...of course not, we had a bye. Maverick statement there buddy.

And then he has the balls to say his Texans have shown SO much heart this year by beating a rookie-led Bengals team at home? He seems to forget how our rookie-led team beat the #1 seeded Titans a few years back IN THE PLAYOFFS. And he must have also forgotten how we waltzed into Foxborough and beat the Pats IN THE PLAYOFFS.

Let's end their year this weekend. That riles me up

[PuRock]

[quote name='Texunsss' timestamp='1326087253' post='940592']


See, the argument from the other side is Leinart put up 17 points in that first half against Jax which on average is more than Yates puts up in a whole game. Who knows, its a mess down here and all we can do is stand by our next man up...Regardless of who is at QB this Sunday, they would have a tough time. If Yates can pull iit off though, most Houstonians will not want Schaub back, which is a shame because he really has never had a good defense to work with.
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IDK, I remember watching that game. Leinhart looked okay. The one TD pass to Dressen (I think) was more of a lucky play with a good play by the TE.

One half isn't something you can rest your hat on. I just hope your fans are't arguing to keep Leinhart over Schaub.

[keebl3rs]

[quote name='narddog' timestamp='1326087896' post='940605']
I know this is off topic, but I couldn't find anywhere else to post it (the title suggests this thread is about nonsense...) But all my steelers friends are complaining about the coin flip rule, saying that's why they lost... No, the Steelers played like doo doo, and you shouldn't complain if you can't win in regulation!

Believe me, I don't like the rule, but you let Timmy Tebow throw for 300 yards, and 80 yards and a td on the only offensive play in overtime. It sounds like coins are the least of your worries. Am I right or am I right?
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They're lucky they even made it to OT.

You should post this in the Steelers vs Broncos game thread though

[Texunsss]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1326087734' post='940602']
IDK, I remember watching that game. Leinhart looked okay. The one TD pass to Dressen (I think) was more of a lucky play with a good play by the TE.

One half isn't something you can rest your hat on. I just hope your fans are't arguing to keep Leinhart over Schaub.
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HAHA no no...Leinart hasn't even been mentioned since he went down. Now its Schaub vs Yates. As i said though, give Schaub the reigns for another year or so and let Yates continue to learn and take it from there. The one thing about Yates though is he stares down his receiver which is not going to work. I give the kid props for coming in and going to Cincy, with the weight of the city on his shoulders and winning that game. I've said all year that through all the b.s. it feels like we are destined to do something this year. I guess we will see if that holds true come Sunday. Ima hit the hay, It was nice talking to you. I'll see you around through out the week. Night!

[MLGWL20]

[quote name='Texunsss' timestamp='1326088024' post='940609']
The one thing about Yates though is he stares down his receiver which is not going to work.
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He better look out for Ed Reed

[3rdcoast]

[quote name='Militant X 1' timestamp='1326082819' post='940482']
i thought that i'd post this sense a texans fan has come to our nest "thinking" that the Ravens are scared of Andre Johnson...who played in the game below last season:

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEKJZxalrEc[/media]

~Mili
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Yeah but weren't yall up 21-0 at one point and then 21-7 at halftime? Didn't yall take the opening kickoff for the 2nd half to the house to make it 28-7? How did it even get to OT when yall were up 21 point TWICE? Yeah I'm sure it was convenient to leave out the other highlights from that game, especially considering the leagues worse defense held yall to ZERO points on offense in the second half (kickoff TDs are special teams).

EDIT: This highlight does not correlate to the comment "i thought that i'd post this sense a texans fan has come to our nest "thinking" that the Ravens are scared of Andre Johnson...who played in the game below last season:"

Why don't you show highlights of the entire game. Show the highlights of 9 catches 140 yards and 2 TDs. Yall were up 21 points twice and got a heavy dose of Andre Johnson, which led to us getting to OT. Your offense was stagnant the whole second half, and we stopped yall on the first possession of OT (with the worst defense in the league in 2010). Unfortunately the game had to end like this, but that had nothing to with your statement. Of course you conveniently left it out to gloat

BTW Schaub wasn't even throughout it to Johnson. He just made a bad decision under duress.

[SuRihtanil]

Funny thread, that Doc was was a trip, but wasn't this the first time the Texans have made it to the playoffs? ... I mean they're new but not to much newer than us if I remember correct.

[flynismo]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1326086793' post='940577']
Yea I thought that was the right move with Williams during the draft, ofcourse we Ravens fans seem to enjoy the defense side of things.

But boy did the Texans get crap for that. Who's laughing now?

I also think it was better for Leinhart to get injured. Yates is better but you might have been stuck with Leinhart. I think you would have struggled more.
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Ugh ... Have to say that Mario Williams is (well, was, since they moved him to OLB) my favorite DE in the game... I thought it was a tough decision for HOU to make, mainly because I thought Mario would develop into a John Abraham kinda guy (very good, but not a friggin' monster), but totally bought into the Bush hype.
Wasn't laughing at HOU by any means (what Raven fan can't appreciate a stud 1st round defensive player); but I probably would have taken Reggie...whoops

[berad]

[quote name='3rdcoast' timestamp='1326089072' post='940628']

Yeah but weren't yall up 21-0 at one point and then 21-7 at halftime? Didn't yall take the opening kickoff for the 2nd half to the house to make it 28-7? How did it even get to OT when yall were up 21 point TWICE? Yeah I'm sure it was convenient to leave out the other highlights from that game, especially considering the leagues worse defense held yall to ZERO points on offense in the second half (kickoff TDs are special teams).
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You really can't trash talk about that game...

[1/28/01]

[quote name='3rdcoast' timestamp='1326080164' post='940418']


That's true. You guys lost every game after an emotional win over the Steelers in the regular season. But of course this is the postseason and [b]the Texans were not acting like they won the SB after they beat the Bengals.[/b]
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Sure hope you're not insinuating anything here!

[3rdcoast]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1326082108' post='940467']
We had a guy activated from the practice squad a week prior covering Mason. I don't think we'll have to do that with Johnson.
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Seriously, Mason? That guy is like 40 and was only on our roster for less than a week for that game. Plus he is no longer on our roster (saved us a 7th rounder at least).

[3rdcoast]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1326089698' post='940637']
Sure hope you're not insinuating anything here!
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What would I be "insinuating"? You guys were celebrating and giving your coach a Gatorade bath after beating the Steelers in a regular season game. Congratulations for doing your job. I do not see the Texans getting comfortable like that. I expect the Texans to go out that give the Ravens a good fight.

[3rdcoast]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1326089629' post='940636']

You really can't trash talk about that game...
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The guy posted a video of the pick 6 from our MNF game last year and said this:

[quote]"[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]i thought that i'd post this sense a texans fan has come to our nest "thinking" that the Ravens are scared of Andre Johnson...who played in the game below last season:"[/font][/color][/quote]

First, off all the pick 6 did not do anything to support this comment. Notice how I asked him how did they even get to OT even though the Ravens had a 21 point lead twice. If you look at the highlights, you will see that Andre Johnson wore out your defense last year. 9 catches 140 yards 2 TDs should say enough on how the Ravens defense feels about Johnson. Of course when you win a game it's easy to over look these facts. Go look at the highlights and ask yourself "How did we get to OT?" Your answer will be..."Andre Johnson".

BTW The pick 6 was not even thrown to Andre, so this video is totally irrelevant to his comment and is nothing more than gloating.

[JohnJohnson]

[quote name='3rdcoast' timestamp='1326089072' post='940628']

Yeah but weren't yall up 21-0 at one point and then 21-7 at halftime? Didn't yall take the opening kickoff for the 2nd half to the house to make it 28-7? How did it even get to OT when yall were up 21 point TWICE? Yeah I'm sure it was convenient to leave out the other highlights from that game, especially considering the leagues worse defense held yall to ZERO points on offense in the second half (kickoff TDs are special teams).
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Dude...you were at home, with Matt Schaub starting and you lost the game. Yes, our offense went conservative like they seem to do when they have a lead, and they stopped moving the ball. Our defense played conservative as well and got tired out. This is a different defense, different coordinator.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Texunsss' timestamp='1326086183' post='940561']


Yeah.People in HTown have already been trying to argue this controversy at QB. I dont know if you guys know but Yates played in a system similar to ours at UNC hence why we drafted him. The kid has done well being thrown into the fire with so much pressure from the fans this season. He's done good but our offense has dropped from 20+ ppg with Schaub to 16.9 with Yates. We put up 31 yesterday but we were at home,the place was rocking, and even though Dalton did well considering the environment, he threw 3 picks. Schaub is good when he wants to be, but people have been calling for his head for a couple years now. He's slow, throws costly picks sometimes(the Oakland game this year) instead of running it into the end zone. I'd like to give Schaub a chance next year with a fully healthy team and see how we do and let Yates get another year under his belt.
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Schaub is a good QB, I'm not sure why there are a lot of Texans fans who want to get rid of him. He has thrown for 4000+ yards the past 2 years and would have done it again this year if he didnt have a freak injury. Yeah, he has made some bad mistakes (like that pick 6 against us last year) but overall he has put up impressive numbers. If the Texans had a better defense in previous years, you probably would have been a playoff team at least 2 out of the past 3. I think fans are just very fickle about their QB's in general unless their names are Brady, Brees, or Rodgers. Oh yeah, and welcome to the Ravens board.

[3rdcoast]

[quote name='PWNEDbyDEANO' timestamp='1326082146' post='940468']
First of all, welcome to the boards.

I agree that you've had to overcome numerous injuries this year although it could also be said that you [b]caught one of the biggest breaks possible when manning went down.[/b]

What's the latest with Daniels? Is he likely to play?
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Didn't yall play the Colts? Guess you're lucky Manning was out too. If he were 11-5 wwouldn't have won the AFC North this year, so no home playoff game for you. Ignorance is bliss. We don't play Manning 16 times a year. Last time I checked we were 1-1 against them last year with Peyton Manning (and the worst defense). Now you think we could not go 1-1 with the polar opposite defense from last season. We went 1-1 against the Colts this season. There Manning's absence did not affect us being 10-6, or in the postseason. Let's not play the what if game, unless you want to discuss how Manning's absence affected the outcomes of 14 other games that had nothing to do with the Texans.

[3rdcoast]

[quote name='JohnJohnson' timestamp='1326091144' post='940646']

Dude...you were at home, with Matt Schaub starting and you lost the game. Yes, our offense went conservative like they seem to do when they have a lead, and they stopped moving the ball. Our defense played conservative as well and got tired out. This is a different defense, different coordinator.
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Why don't you read what was posted in the quote (above the video) then you will see what I am saying. How did it get to OT when yall had a 21 point lead twice? Go look at the highlights from that game (as I suggested in my reply). You will see a lot of Andre Johnson (9 catches 140 yards 2 TD).

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='3rdcoast' timestamp='1326091622' post='940654']
Why don't you read what was posted in the quote (above the video) then you will see what I am saying. How did it get to OT when yall had a 21 point lead twice? Go look at the highlight (as I suggested in my reply). You will see a lot of Andre Johnson.
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It got to OT because it was a battle between two NFL teams. Both teams get paid. For a Texans fan to point out the blown leads is to discredit the Ravens for the victory -- which essentially puts down the Texans since that statement would then mean that Houston was beaten by a poor Ravens squad.

They're both good teams. Overtime happens. When it comes to the W/L column, no one cares [i]how[/i] a game reached its conclusion; all that matters is the actual conclusion itself. Would the Texans be ridiculed for blowing a 21-point lead in the Super Bowl if they ended up winning the game in OT?

[3rdcoast]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' timestamp='1326092799' post='940659']
It got to OT because it was a battle between two NFL teams. Both teams get paid. For a Texans fan to point out the blown leads is to discredit the Ravens for the victory -- which essentially puts down the Texans since that statement would then mean that Houston was beaten by a poor Ravens squad.

They're both good teams. Overtime happens. When it comes to the W/L column, no one cares [i]how[/i] a game reached its conclusion; all that matters is the actual conclusion itself. Would the Texans be ridiculed for blowing a 21-point lead in the Super Bowl if they ended up winning the game in OT?
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Guy the point is not about who won or lost. Please go look at the original post. The guy posted a video saying:

"i thought that i'd post this sense a texans fan has come to our nest[b] "thinking" that the Ravens are scared of Andre Johnson[/b]...who played in the game below last season:"

My response was that he was ignoring the highlights and was just rubbing in the ending. The point was that Andre Johnson gave the Ravens defense all they could handle. I am not saying the Ravens are "scared" of Andre, but they definitely RESPECT him (which is what I originally said).

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='3rdcoast' timestamp='1326093098' post='940661']
Guy the point is not about who won or lost. Please go look at the original post. The guy posted a video saying "i thought that i'd post this sense a texans fan has come to our nest[b] "thinking" that the Ravens are scared of Andre Johnson[/b]...who played in the game below last season:" My response was that he was ignoring the highlights and was just rubbing in the ending. The point was that Andre Johnson gave the Ravens defense all they could handle. I am not saying the Ravens are "scared" of Andre, but they definitely RESPECT him (which is what I originally said).
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I was addressing your remark about how the Ravens could blow two leads and let the game go to OT. I was not addressing your point about Andre Johnson.

Andre Johnson is Andre Johnson. While he's a phenomenal player and could potentially go into the Hall of Fame, he's [i]one[/i] player on a talented team. He'll make an impact but he won't be the only deciding factor.

[bauer77]

[quote name='3rdcoast' timestamp='1326093098' post='940661']
Guy the point is not about who won or lost. Please go look at the original post. The guy posted a video saying:

"i thought that i'd post this sense a texans fan has come to our nest[b] "thinking" that the Ravens are scared of Andre Johnson[/b]...who played in the game below last season:"

My response was that he was ignoring the highlights and was just rubbing in the ending. The point was that Andre Johnson gave the Ravens defense all they could handle. I am not saying the Ravens are "scared" of Andre, but they definitely RESPECT him (which is what I originally said).
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And your ignoring the fact that we beat you guys in that game when you had Andre Johnson. No doubt we respect him, he's one of the best WR's in the NFL when healthy. But the point that Mili was trying to make, was that you came here saying we should be scared of, or respect, him. He was saying we beat you with him.

[D_UP]

Why are some texans fans in this thread acting all emboldened? Enjoy your victory but please know your place. Understand and give respect to the Ravens, your team hasn't won jack this is your first year making the playoffs. Go sit down have a coke and smile and stop trying to speak on the Ravens like ya'll squad is of the same pedigree.

[3rdcoast]

[quote name='bauer77' timestamp='1326094185' post='940666']


And your ignoring the fact that we beat you guys in that game when you had Andre Johnson. No doubt we respect him, he's one of the best WR's in the NFL when healthy. But the point that Mili was trying to make, was that you came here saying we should be scared of, or respect, him. He was saying we beat you with him.
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Well that's why I emphasize that we overcame a 21 point deficit to force OT WITH THE WORST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE. We are #2 defense this season, which is an outstanding turnaround. If we can do anything on offense it'll be a good game. Remember the game was 16-14 Ravens going into the 4th in our match-up earlier in the season. We were outscored 13-0 in the 4th quarter mainly our offense was stagnant (big ups to your defense). However, Johnson was not in that game. If you can try to see the picture I am painting. Last year we moved the ball well on this defense with Andre Johnson. In our match-up earlier this season, we did not have Johnson and struggle offensively. Why? Because AJ stretches the field and allows us space to attack a defense on the ground and in the air.

PS
If you agree that the Ravens respect AJ then why are you trying to argue. My comment is aimed at someone who thinks the opposite.
BTW there is a difference between being scared and respecting an individual. Quote me saying the Ravens are scared, I clearly stated they respect him (unlike some fans on this MB), which is a fact.