The Biggest Difference Between Matt Ryan And Joe Flacco

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[quote name='chesapeakeaviator' timestamp='1326058997' post='938998']

He played well today but I still don't think he's better than Joe. I've watched that guy blow more games than Joe has even played.
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No i mean Matt Ryan.

[chesapeakeaviator]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1326059259' post='939012']
No i mean Matt Ryan.
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True enough there. After that performance, Eli showed he still has some class on "Matty Ice." Ouch.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1326053625' post='938790']

It's not the defense's fault that the falcons have 2 points...
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Sure it is. They would have had 0 points if not for them.
[quote name='BaltimoreBean' timestamp='1326052906' post='938772']
Every time I've seen Matt Ryan audible lately, especially today, the play goes for nothing. Might have something to do with the crowd noise. He looks like Peyton Manning making audibles up there, difference is Manning makes the correct changes.

[b]Anyone else see that hail Mary before the half? Joe would have atleast got the ball into the endzone.[/b]
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He's not exactly known for being a strong armed quarterback. That's one thing that just about no one says he's better at than Flacco.

[JoeCool#5]

[quote name='JohnJohnson' timestamp='1326056104' post='938900']
The biggest difference? Flacco can throw it into the end zone from 50 or 60 yards out, easily.
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Flacco has a gun and could throw a frozen rope in a wind storm.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fa_GrbdcjY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fa_GrbdcjY[/url]

Reminded me of this little competition prior to the draft, Matt Ryan 62 yard performance. Check out Joe in the same competition.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='JoeCool#5' timestamp='1326060502' post='939054']
Flacco has a gun and could throw a frozen rope in a wind storm.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fa_GrbdcjY[/media]

Reminded me of this little competition prior to the draft, Matt Ryan 62 yard performance. Check out Joe in the same competition.
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ive seen that before and it doesnt even look if joes trying, iirc correct teh annoucer dude just says he flicked his wrist.. it cant be assed watching so correct me if im wrong lol

[PurpleCorsair]

[quote name='Tyler' timestamp='1326048567' post='938646']
As we all know, Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan will forever be compared in terms of who is the better quarterback and who will have the most successful career. As much as in my heart of hearts that I stand by my statement that Flacco is the better overall quarterback for this team and Matt Ryan is overrated, there is one category that he is better than Flacco. He Takes total control of the offense, which is essential when you look at the elite quarterbacks such as Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Manning. I consistently see Matt Ryan shouting out audibles and changing the offense if he sees something he doesn't like. Joe doesn't seem to do that nearly enough. My major concern with Joe is that most times he calls the play that was given to him through the headset and sticks with it. I know some of it has to do with the horrible playcalling, but this offense would be so much more explosive if Joe started to audible more frequently.
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Matt Ryan 0-3 in Postseason
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Fu Manchu

[baltravens]

[quote name='chesapeakeaviator' timestamp='1326048854' post='938652']

Falcons have a WAY better OC. That should be history, though--he's interviewing with Miami after the playoffs are done. I think that helps Matt Ryan a lot. He definitely has good intangibles and I do think Ryan is a good QB. Maybe he'll wind up with Cam next year and be back down to earth.

There's too much ---- measuring with QBs these days thanks to ESPN and NFLN 24 hour coverage... ALWAYS needing something to talk about. I think they're both good and I would take either over Eli, honestly.
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Bratkowski (SP)? Are you kidding me, he destroyed Carson Palmer's final 3 years in Chincy Cincy. The only reason why he was picked up is because assistants are so easily recycled in the NFL once they established themselves in the league. In 2008, 2009, and 2010 he could easily be blamed for Cincinnati's problems. Finally, I would rather have Cam than him. You would have to look back and see just how much Palmer played for those last few years, but the continuity on the Bengals was an issue.

[chesapeakeaviator]

[quote name='baltravens' timestamp='1326062642' post='939203']
Bratkowski (SP)? Are you kidding me, he destroyed Carson Palmer's final 3 years in Chincy Cincy. The only reason why he was picked up is because assistants are so easily recycled in the NFL once they established themselves in the league. In 2008, 2009, and 2010 he could easily be blamed for Cincinnati's problems. Finally, I would rather have Cam than him. You would have to look back and see just how much Palmer played for those last few years, but the continuity on the Bengals was an issue.
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No, Mike Mularkey is the O Coordinator for Atlanta. He has been there since '08... and I would much rather have him than Cam.

EDIT: Caveat being that I don't like his short yardage calls. He took an absolutely anemic offense and turned them into a perennial top 10 one, though. Generally thought of extremely highly in the league.

[darklight1216]

[quote name='baltravens' timestamp='1326062642' post='939203']
Bratkowski (SP)? Are you kidding me, he destroyed Carson Palmer's final 3 years in Chincy Cincy. The only reason why he was picked up is because assistants are so easily recycled in the NFL once they established themselves in the league. In 2008, 2009, and 2010 he could easily be blamed for Cincinnati's problems. Finally, I would rather have Cam than him. You would have to look back and see just how much Palmer played for those last few years, but the continuity on the Bengals was an issue.
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I don't think that's the right guy.

[quote][url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/atl/atlanta-falcons"]Atlanta Falcons[/url] [b]offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey[/b] and some of his offensive linemen responded to [url="http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/8488/justin-tuck"]Justin Tuck[/url]'s claim that they have a reputation of being "dirtbags" Wednesday and defended their style of play.[/quote]
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2011/story/_/id/7424568/2012-nfl-playoffs-atlanta-falcons-o-line-fires-back-justin-tuck-comments

[UD Ravens Fan]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326051143' post='938726']
I'm watching this Giants game and Matt Ryan looks shaky as hell to me, he's completing short passes but when the game started you could tell he was skittish and his nerves were going nuts, thats why I love Joe Flacco, he's always cool, never really gets happy feet

Joe is a winner, for what our offense is set up to do Joe does great, we still play defense in Baltimore unlike New Orleans, Green Bay, New England, etc. If our offense evolves to more of a passing offense I have no doubt Joe can do that too but right now we dont have the personnel to do that, our team is made to run the ball, control the clock, play defense and hit on a couple big plays in the passing game once in a while

...this Matt Ryan vs Joe Flacco debate is done for me, we already know they will continue to be compared but right now its not even close, Joe has done more winning and thats all that matters

I read an article and they ranked Joe Flacco behind Alex Smith, Matt Ryan, and even Andy Dalton for who is the best playoff QBs...how insulting
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Hell, they even implied they would take TJ Yates over Joe. Joe is the lowest of the lows to the NFL talking heads - an absolute troll. Let's see how things work out next Sunday in B'more.

[baltravens]

[quote name='chesapeakeaviator' timestamp='1326063053' post='939244']

No, Mike Mularkey is the O Coordinator for Atlanta. He has been there since '08... and I would much rather have him than Cam.

EDIT: Caveat being that I don't like his short yardage calls. He took an absolutely anemic offense and turned them into a perennial top 10 one, though. Generally thought of extremely highly in the league.
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I see. I erred. It seems this Bratkowski was the Falcon's QB Coach. ...probably does not have too much to do with their play calling. ...Disregard my rant.

[chesapeakeaviator]

[quote name='baltravens' timestamp='1326064456' post='939366']
I see. I erred. It seems this Bratkowski was the Falcon's QB Coach. ...probably does not have too much to do with their play calling. ...Disregard my rant.
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It's all good, brother! Happens to me sometimes too

I don't know a heck of a lot about Bratkowski (anything, really) but if he was the Bungals QB coach then, I would 100% agree with you. Palmer sure went down the tubes fast.

[eandb17]

The biggest difference is that Matt Ryan is 0-3 in the playoff.

[chesapeakeaviator]

[quote name='JoeCool#5' timestamp='1326060502' post='939054']
Flacco has a gun and could throw a frozen rope in a wind storm.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fa_GrbdcjY[/media]

Reminded me of this little competition prior to the draft, Matt Ryan 62 yard performance. Check out Joe in the same competition.
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One of the many reasons I'm so high on him. There's just not enough you can say about that kind of arm strength coupled with the maturity to not try and rely on it when nothing is there. He's a special player and there aren't that many out there like him. Now it's just time for him to put together a string of postseason Ws and put all the doubters to bed

[Kwothdaraven]

Here's the most important difference.

Matt ryan is winless in january. Christ, he didn't put up a single point against houston

[Bigbell]

2 points. thats all i have to say

[PeRK82]

The biggest diff. between Flacco and Ryan is , Flacco wins play off games, Flacco wins games period. That and the media thinks for some reason that Matty Ice is better than Flacco. No one out of Maryland even watches Flacco play, they just watch Media highlights so they arnt seeing Flacco's Oline break up when he gets sacked or they spin which ever way they want, I remember when we played them last Season, none of the media brang up the HORRID Reffing and the Calls that always went the Falcons way but never the RAVENS, the Push off on Wilson, The Facemask called on Suggs but Suggs was the one that's facemask was pulled on. I'd pick Flacco over Ryan any day and twice on sunday.

[ghost1986]

I like to keep things simple so here's my answer: Joe's in the playoffs and Matt Ryans isn't.

[blazeon32]

Yep, everybody's favorite QB from the Falcons chokes again. Media talking heads are absolute morons.

[rlh445]

Yea, Matty's penchant for the audible sure helped him score a whopping 0 points today. Joe, take note: this is how you [s]win[/s] football games. Joe's fine, and obviously better than Matt Ryan. It's not even close.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='JoeCool#5' timestamp='1326060502' post='939054']
Flacco has a gun and could throw a frozen rope in a wind storm.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fa_GrbdcjY[/media]

Reminded me of this little competition prior to the draft, Matt Ryan 62 yard performance. Check out Joe in the same competition.
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Thank you so much for the Video, never saw it. I was smiling EAR to EAR watching my boy Flacco just throwing BOMBS and it still looked like he could throw it another 10 yds, I know for a fact he can now. Flacco has Thee Strongest Arm in the NFL. T.Smith needs to get a little faster so he can keep up with Flaccos throws. There has been so many dropped Deep passes that have been on the money and then it makes Flacco look bad. Thats why his Completion percentage is down. Anyone who watches RAVENS games know that Flacco is a great QB, not Elite yet but im starting to think he can be.

FLACCO all day , i'd pick him everytime out of any QB, aside from maybe Brady. No B.S either. They just need to let Flacco throw more and more people will see how good he really is. He has progressed a good amount from the Beginning season, let alone his Rookie Year.

[True]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1326054062' post='938811']
I still don't understand the obsession to compare the two. They are two young good QBs. Different QBs with different paths. I have all the respect for Ryan and Flacco and I hope they both succeed.

Some of you guys just need to justify ego.
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Yeah aside from the draft four years ago I don't get the comparsion since they play in different conferences..

Most of it seems to be about how Ryan gets more attention then Flacco...but who cares? Let your game speak and keep winning.

[JO_75]

Biggest Difference between Matt Ryan and Tim Tebow, Tebow is 1-0 in the playoffs.

[jimmypowder]

I'll take Joe over Matty " my ice melts in the playoffs " Ryan any day .

He showed absolutely nothing against the Giants today .

[PuRock]

In all honesty, I don't know why this thread is staying near the top. We seem to be talking more about this than the Texans game.

How many people need to post Matty's and Joe's playoff records before it become repetitious.

[AsianRice]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326051237' post='938729']

Joe makes audibles, Matt Ryan is like Manning and likes to make a show of it though
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In addition, his audible is horrible and he looks like he can control the tempo of the game but he's not; like you said, he just wants to be like Manning but his change of playcalling is way off based on the giving opposing defense. The Giants played zone2 defense which left some space for running game, but he wanted to throw more than 30times when they attempted only 15 times of running the ball. The score was low until the closed to the end of third quarter, but the Falcons still abandon the run.

One of the most noticable horrible call was 4th and 1; Ryan didn't even audible that play when the Giants were stacked all this men in the middle. He should had audibled it out and thrown to the sideline or short slant. Manning will kill that play...

I'll take Joe over Ryan all day if I have to choose.....

[Ravens549]

Cannot stand the comparisons. Totally different conferences. Plus, we play the Steelers twice in a season; a tough defense.
I'll take Flacco any day. Go Joe!

[Suggs Package]

The two main reasons Matty gets more credit and attentions are that Atlanta is a bigger media market and that according to science, he's supposed to be the best looking QB in the NFL. No seriously. [url="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574378733451557884.html"]http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203706604574378733451557884.html[/url].

Matt Ryan has to play in a dome to be successful. If they don't have homefield, they're pretty much done as we saw today. Matt Ryan reminds me of a better version of Colt McCoy in that their arm strength can be a liability at times, especially in cold weather outdoor games. Both are hard workers and smart guys who can make good decisions but simply don't have the talent to execute all of the times.

Joe Flacco, in the media, is seen as the opposite. The guy with the magic arm who can't put it all together and doesn't invest as much time in film study and is slow to process things on the field. Totally not true, but that's what people say.

[CLAV410]

Oz said the reason why he loved Flacco is because he could throw the ball great in the elements. As you seen today Ryan can't handel the cold, wind or uncomfortable situations. However there isn't a setting that can faze Flacco. Sorry but Flacco is way better than Ryan. Ryan is a straight up choke artist. Funny thing is none of the analist are really even pointing out his horrible play today. If it were Flacco they would be QUICK to point out how horrible his numbers were.