The Biggest Difference Between Matt Ryan And Joe Flacco

[Tyler]

As we all know, Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan will forever be compared in terms of who is the better quarterback and who will have the most successful career. As much as in my heart of hearts that I stand by my statement that Flacco is the better overall quarterback for this team and Matt Ryan is overrated, there is one category that he is better than Flacco. He Takes total control of the offense, which is essential when you look at the elite quarterbacks such as Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Manning. I consistently see Matt Ryan shouting out audibles and changing the offense if he sees something he doesn't like. Joe doesn't seem to do that nearly enough. My major concern with Joe is that most times he calls the play that was given to him through the headset and sticks with it. I know some of it has to do with the horrible playcalling, but this offense would be so much more explosive if Joe started to audible more frequently.

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='Tyler' timestamp='1326048567' post='938646']
As we all know, Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan will forever be compared in terms of who is the better quarterback and who will have the most successful career. As much as in my heart of hearts that I stand by my statement that Flacco is the better overall quarterback for this team and Matt Ryan is overrated, there is one category that he is better than Flacco. He Takes total control of the offense, which is essential when you look at the elite quarterbacks such as Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Manning. I consistently see Matt Ryan shouting out audibles and changing the offense if he sees something he doesn't like. Joe doesn't seem to do that nearly enough. My major concern with Joe is that most times he calls the play that was given to him through the headset and sticks with it. I know some of it has to do with the horrible playcalling, but this offense would be so much more explosive if Joe started to audible more frequently.
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He is allowed to do so. Cam has made it abundantly clear both by his comments and actions during games this season (calling plays from the sidelines during no-huddle) that he is not going to give Joe control. For all the talk from Harbs and the FO (and I believe even Cam himself) about this being Joe's offense this year, that did not happen.

If you watch, Joe has 2 options. The first play Cam called and the 2nd play Cam called. He can kill play 1 for play 2 but that is all. SB win or not, Cam needs to go.

[chesapeakeaviator]

[quote name='Tyler' timestamp='1326048567' post='938646']
As we all know, Joe Flacco and Matt Ryan will forever be compared in terms of who is the better quarterback and who will have the most successful career. As much as in my heart of hearts that I stand by my statement that Flacco is the better overall quarterback for this team and Matt Ryan is overrated, there is one category that he is better than Flacco. He Takes total control of the offense, which is essential when you look at the elite quarterbacks such as Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Manning. I consistently see Matt Ryan shouting out audibles and changing the offense if he sees something he doesn't like. Joe doesn't seem to do that nearly enough. My major concern with Joe is that most times he calls the play that was given to him through the headset and sticks with it. I know some of it has to do with the horrible playcalling, but this offense would be so much more explosive if Joe started to audible more frequently.
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Falcons have a WAY better OC. That should be history, though--he's interviewing with Miami after the playoffs are done. I think that helps Matt Ryan a lot. He definitely has good intangibles and I do think Ryan is a good QB. Maybe he'll wind up with Cam next year and be back down to earth.

There's too much ---- measuring with QBs these days thanks to ESPN and NFLN 24 hour coverage... ALWAYS needing something to talk about. I think they're both good and I would take either over Eli, honestly.

[Tyler]

There is no question that Cam needs to go, but I can't take Matt Ryan's Intelligence and leadership away from him. Coming out of College he was one of the smartest quarterbacks I've seen to come out of the draft in recent history. All the guy does is study film and has a great knowledge of the game. I think with the Right Coordinator, Joe has the tools to be a leader on the field and recognize when to audible.

[The Raven]

[quote name='Tyler' timestamp='1326049195' post='938664']
There is no question that Cam needs to go, but I can't take Matt Ryan's Intelligence and leadership away from him. Coming out of College he was one of the smartest quarterbacks I've seen to come out of the draft in recent history. All the guy does is study film and has a great knowledge of the game. I think with the Right Coordinator, Joe has the tools to be a leader on the field and recognize when to audible.
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It's not a matter of recognizing when to audible, its a matter of being allowed to audible

[MLGWL20]

Too bad Ryan can't even score any points in the first half of a playoff game

[Moderator 2]

Joe wins playoff games, may not be pretty but he and the team get it done

[sliceanddic3]

[quote name='MLGWL20' timestamp='1326050582' post='938706']
Too bad Ryan can't even score any points in the first half of a playoff game
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A very winnable playoff game btw.

[PSU RAVEN]

and when Ryan (or any other NFL QB) audibles it is into a predetermined play based on the read that the coach has already selected for him. It is in my opinion way overrated.

[DMH_in_WA]

Oh ... I thought you were going to say: 4-3 vs 0-2

My bad.

[scrock]

I'm watching this Giants game and Matt Ryan looks shaky as hell to me, he's completing short passes but when the game started you could tell he was skittish and his nerves were going nuts, thats why I love Joe Flacco, he's always cool, never really gets happy feet

Joe is a winner, for what our offense is set up to do Joe does great, we still play defense in Baltimore unlike New Orleans, Green Bay, New England, etc. If our offense evolves to more of a passing offense I have no doubt Joe can do that too but right now we dont have the personnel to do that, our team is made to run the ball, control the clock, play defense and hit on a couple big plays in the passing game once in a while

...this Matt Ryan vs Joe Flacco debate is done for me, we already know they will continue to be compared but right now its not even close, Joe has done more winning and thats all that matters

I read an article and they ranked Joe Flacco behind Alex Smith, Matt Ryan, and even Andy Dalton for who is the best playoff QBs...how insulting

[scrock]

[quote name='Tyler' timestamp='1326049195' post='938664']
There is no question that Cam needs to go, but I can't take Matt Ryan's Intelligence and leadership away from him. Coming out of College he was one of the smartest quarterbacks I've seen to come out of the draft in recent history. All the guy does is study film and has a great knowledge of the game. I think with the Right Coordinator, Joe has the tools to be a leader on the field and recognize when to audible.
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Joe makes audibles, Matt Ryan is like Manning and likes to make a show of it though

[ravensfan2424]

Matt Ryan just takes control of his offense more often, that's why he looks better. When Joe takes control of his offense, its a pretty sight. The Falcons only have a better OC to make them look good all the time. Its amazing how held back we are by Cam.

[ravens2daplayoffs]

I'm sick of hearing about Matt Ryan whenever I watch a football game. Obviously they're going to talk about him if he is playing, and he is a pretty good quarterback, but they constantly kiss his behind and it's so obnoxious. When the Ravens and the Falcons played last year, I seem to remember the analysts saying "Oooooh Matt Ryan is so good, I just want to make a mix-tape of his plays and watch it all night" but when Joe Flacco led a fourth quarter comeback, they said nothing. In today's game vs the Giants, one of the analysts said, "Matt Ryan is 0-2 in the playoffs, but plenty of elite quarterbacks started out 0-2", which really irks me because even though Joe Flacco is 4-3 in the playoffs they just say "Oh, he has a defence, oh he has a running game, oh he gets lucky, oh his unibrow is too big" or whatever excuse they use. It's time to admit that Flacco is, up to this point, a more successful quarterback then 'Matty Ice'.

[cursona pirate]

[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1326048792' post='938650']

He is allowed to do so. Cam has made it abundantly clear both by his comments and actions during games this season (calling plays from the sidelines during no-huddle) that he is not going to give Joe control. For all the talk from Harbs and the FO (and I believe even Cam himself) about this being Joe's offense this year, that did not happen.

If you watch, Joe has 2 options. The first play Cam called and the 2nd play Cam called. He can kill play 1 for play 2 but that is all. SB win or not, Cam needs to go.
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Bingo! ^^^^
Joe still gets not control. We all know this. Cam thinks audibles are overrated. which is totally not true. They work.

[scrock]

[quote name='ravens2daplayoffs' timestamp='1326051365' post='938733']
[b]I'm sick of hearing about Matt Ryan whenever I watch a football game. Obviously they're going to talk about him if he is playing, and he is a pretty good quarterback, but they constantly kiss his behind and it's so obnoxious.[/b] When the Ravens and the Falcons played last year, I seem to remember the analysts saying "Oooooh Matt Ryan is so good, I just want to make a mix-tape of his plays and watch it all night" but when Joe Flacco led a fourth quarter comeback, they said nothing. In today's game vs the Giants, one of the analysts said, "Matt Ryan is 0-2 in the playoffs, but plenty of elite quarterbacks started out 0-2", which really irks me because even though Joe Flacco is 4-3 in the playoffs they just say "Oh, he has a defence, oh he has a running game, oh he gets lucky, oh his unibrow is too big" or whatever excuse they use. It's time to admit that Flacco is, up to this point, a more successful quarterback then 'Matty Ice'.
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it was especially bad when we played them on NFL Network last year or whenever it was, my GOD I almost had to turn the channel it was horrible. Joe Flacco led us on 3 2nd half TDs? and led the game winning drive but our D couldnt hold it at the end...and Matt Ryan got all the praise and Joe got nothing

[Gordo52]

Ryan also has a normal offensive coordinator, the greatest TE to ever play, and 2 great fast WRs at his disposal helping him develop. But Joe has worked with what hes got and has been more sucessfull. We finally have Joe a deep threat now we need a coordinator who knows what to do with the talent he has that other teams wished they had

[keebl3rs]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1326051237' post='938729']

Joe makes audibles, Matt Ryan is like Manning and likes to make a show of it though
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Yes, yes, yes. So glad someone said this.

Joe DOES audible. He just doesn't turn into Al Pacino in the process.

[BaltimoreBean]

Every time I've seen Matt Ryan audible lately, especially today, the play goes for nothing. Might have something to do with the crowd noise. He looks like Peyton Manning making audibles up there, difference is Manning makes the correct changes.

Anyone else see that hail Mary before the half? Joe would have atleast got the ball into the endzone.

[cobrajet]

I thing that Ryan has a lot of offensive weapons and his offensive line (even though reported to be dirty sob's) protect him well. I think they continually lose in the playoffs because they do not have a defense anywhere as good as ours.

[hawkprey]

They gave Matt Ryan pieces to lead the team. They took Joe's away. Who's had the better season?

[DMH_in_WA]

Wow .. anyone just see that QB sneak in the Falcons-Giants game? There's another difference, no one is stopping Joe on a 4th and 6-inches QB sneak. That was weak. Does Ryan have any leg strength? I know his arm isn't as big as Joe's ... looks like his physicallity is lacking too. (And it just cost his team another 7 points scored by the Giants).

[The Raven]

[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1326053268' post='938776']
I thing that Ryan has a lot of offensive weapons and his offensive line (even though reported to be dirty sob's) protect him well. I think they continually lose in the playoffs because they do not have a defense anywhere as good as ours.
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It's not the defense's fault that the falcons have 2 points...

[flynismo]

The difference between Flacco and Ryan is that Flacco doesn't get shut out the first 3 quarters in a playoff game. All this "Ryan is a leader" talk...meh

[Ravenslifer]

The difference between Ryan and Flacco? Flacco 4-3 in the playoffs, all on the road. Ryan about to be 0-3 in the playoffs, two of those games at home.

[H8R]

He's controlling a horrible offense today....

[Ravenslifer]

Julio Jones, Roddy White, the greatest tight end ever to play the game Tony Gonzalez, Michael Turner, and one of the best offensive lines in football. 2 points.

The Giants, btw, finished the season defensively ranked 19th in rushing yards allowed, 29th in passing yards allowed, 20th in opposing quarterback rating, and 25th in PPG allowed. Not exactly the 2007 Giants defense. And still, 2 points.

[PuRock]

I still don't understand the obsession to compare the two. They are two young good QBs. Different QBs with different paths. I have all the respect for Ryan and Flacco and I hope they both succeed.

Some of you guys just need to justify ego.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='cobrajet' timestamp='1326053268' post='938776']
I thing that Ryan has a lot of offensive weapons and his offensive line (even though reported to be dirty sob's) protect him well. I think they continually lose in the playoffs because they do not have a defense anywhere as good as ours.
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Or veteran expierence/leadership

[Gordo52]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1326054062' post='938811']
I still don't understand the obsession to compare the two. They are two young good QBs. Different QBs with different paths. I have all the respect for Ryan and Flacco and I hope they both succeed.

Some of you guys just need to justify ego.
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Just because they were drafted the same year. And everyone on mainstream says Ryan's better even though Joe has been more successful