Flacco Is The Guy

[FerrariFan87]

Coach Harbaugh cleared up any possible QB controversy that may have been brewing with Troy Smith due to return soon... Coach said that once Troy returns to health he could possibly come back in the role of BACK-UP QB, leaving ZERO doubts about Joe Flacco and his place as our starter for the foreseeable future, assuming no injuries or horrific games in a row occur, whereby a change would be warranted... so for all of you guys speculating and complaining that Troy is the guy who should be QB, it's not going to happen this year. Period.

You can watch it here:

[url="http://www.baltimoreravens.com/media_library/Videos/Media_Interviews_and_PCs/2008/10/10_8_Harbs.aspx"]http://www.baltimoreravens.com/media_libra...10_8_Harbs.aspx[/url]

[CARavensFan]

Thank you, now maybe all these hopes that Smith will be coming back can be put to rest and we can support our STARTING QB.

[adio1988]

I think this is a smart choice. Flacco needs some work, but im glad to see they still have confidence in him. Troy is a great athlete im hoping they incorporate him in that offense soon. But as for flacco his there to stay.

[bossman419]

how bout we stop making these types of topics... the same people keep coming and saying the same things and it gets really annoying..

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='bossman419' post='73907' date='Oct 8 2008, 05:17 PM']how bout we stop making these types of topics... the same people keep coming and saying the same things and it gets really annoying..[/quote]

But this is a breaking development in how the rest of this season is going to be handled by this coaching staff! This topic is definitely not the same as other Flacco v. Troy topics because it puts any argument for Smith to rest, and in fact, it shuts down anymore types of these topics from popping up anytime soon...

[mpplaya07]

finally... now we can just talk about us vs other teams and other issues instead of the same flacco vs troy issue

[bossman419]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' post='73922' date='Oct 8 2008, 06:14 PM']But this is a breaking development in how the rest of this season is going to be handled by this coaching staff! This topic is definitely not the same as other Flacco v. Troy topics because it puts any argument for Smith to rest, and in fact, it shuts down anymore types of these topics from popping up anytime soon...[/quote]
Thats what we said about the other ones.

[neepo13]

[quote name='bossman419' post='73934' date='Oct 8 2008, 06:54 PM']Thats what we said about the other ones.[/quote]

Well, the others were all speculation. This one is coming right from the horses mouth.

[SickBoy]

[size=3]Wth Joe Flacco started, anyone wanna bet the Ravens won't win 5 more games this year??? atleast i don't have to get my hopes up about winning. thanx harbs, losing will be alot less stressful when i expect to lose.[/size]

[Eurich]

whatever ok.

go flacc attack

[POE]

[quote name='SickBoy' post='73939' date='Oct 8 2008, 07:11 PM'][size=3]Wth Joe Flacco started, anyone wanna bet the Ravens won't win 5 more games this year??? atleast i don't have to get my hopes up about winning. thanx harbs, losing will be alot less stressful when i expect to lose.[/size][/quote]

WOW!!! This kid really needs to settle down. It is way too early to be talking like this homie,CORRECTION, you should never talk like this. Seriously man, if you love this team you should support it no matter what. The 2008 Ravens have not given any fan reason to say stuff like this. They have shown nothing but improvemnet and good promise to do some big things now and in the future. I am asking any of you fans that feel like this and waste time in posting crap like this to just stay away because your wasting your time and the real fans on this website don't really feel like hearing it.

[72Marshall]

[quote name='SickBoy' post='73939' date='Oct 8 2008, 07:11 PM'][size=3]Wth Joe Flacco started, anyone wanna bet the Ravens won't win 5 more games this year??? atleast i don't have to get my hopes up about winning. thanx harbs, losing will be alot less stressful when i expect to lose.[/size][/quote]

Different thread but the answer is the same. Flacco's the starter and Troy Smith is the backup, Get Over It...

[TXRaven]

Some will agree and some won't but under the circumstances I beleive this was the right choice.

[72Marshall]

To question the move is to question the coaches.

If you say Troy Smith should be the starter over Flacco or Troy should be given a chance, your are saying that Harbaugh and Cam don't know what they're doing. If that's the case then I guess you

[mpplaya07]

don't forget asst head coach... I think rex probably has some word to say in this..

[DxDOOM]

Hats off to Joe. I do think in time he will come around. I do wish they would open the play book a little more. Time will tell!

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

I think it was a well thought out decision. Flacco needs to experience what loses and victories are like so he has a better chance of getting the "W".

I also think it was a good decision by the coach to let Troy compete for the backup role.

I'm really interested in seeing how they incorporate Troy in the offense. Maybe like the way Jacksonville incorporated Matt Jones as a wide reciever while he played Quarterback in college.

Troy has too much talent to just sit on the sideline with a hat and a clipboard.

[jfc13]

I agree that this was the way to go and that it's good that the Ravens can now settle down and concentrate on developing Flacco as the quarterback with all the interruptive speculation out of the way. I do feel sorry for Troy, though. Talk about poor timing with the illness. I hope they find a successful and satisfying [for him] way to use him to help the team.

[ravensgirlx88]

Are we shocked by this? No.. Flacco deserves to be starter. We can't QB jump right now. Troy Smith is an EXCELLENT back-up QB. but FACE IT he was NEVER going to be our starter this season.. The job was made for BOLLER, with his injury it went to Flacco. It would be nice to see what Troy can do.. But throwing him in there now would just mess any hopes we have.

[POE]

I have been reading a lot about this and watched the Anita Marks show yesterday as well, and it seems there are a lot of folks that find this hard to believe because they felt that the job was Troy's before the illness. Everyone keeps saying that Troy had won the QB battle. I think that is crazy IMO because Harbaugh kept saying somebody needs to step up in order to win the job and Flacco really never got a shot in this QB challenge becaue the coaches were settled on bringing himn along slowly. Once Boller got injured and then Troy came down with Tonsilitis it was Joe's time to shine and he has proved to the coaches that he can play ball and deserves to be on the field regardless of who comes back to good health. I am confortable with Troy as the backup if anything were to happen to Joe. I think it will take a few more games and everyone who disagrees with this move won't be saying the same things anymore, they will be saying the same things they were after we went 2-0. If you think about it none of this stuff came up until we actually started to lose and I find that pretty sad. GO FLACCO!!!

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

Well, you have to look at it from both sides.

If you supported Troy and wanted him to start, you would be upset when he got ill and couldn't play.

But you also have to look at it from the prespective that when you wen 2-0, you started to have some faith in Flacco, but they were quickly adjusted when you saw him struggle against the types of teams we face this season. And that's when you see him making rookie mistakes, and that where everyone starts pointing the finger.

I think more people wanted Troy to start because he had the ability to win and the slight more experience he had over Flacco. But, it's over and done with now, so, play ball!

[POE]

[quote name='Troy SmiTH Xx' post='74032' date='Oct 9 2008, 08:48 AM']Well, you have to look at it from both sides.

If you supported Troy and wanted him to start, you would be upset when he got ill and couldn't play.

But you also have to look at it from the prespective that when you wen 2-0, you started to have some faith in Flacco, but they were quickly adjusted when you saw him struggle against the types of teams we face this season. And that's when you see him making rookie mistakes, and that where everyone starts pointing the finger.

I think more people wanted Troy to start because he had the ability to win and the slight more experience he had over Flacco. But, it's over and done with now, so, play ball![/quote]

We all knew that the mistakes your talking about would come from Joe. He is a rookie and needs time to grow and anybody who thought he was going to go out and play 16 perfect games is crazy. The thing about it is that his mistakes didn't really lose the games for us, they contributed to the loss but they weren't game changing mistakes, but he has surely kept us in those games by moving the ball on third downs.

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

[quote name='POE' post='74039' date='Oct 9 2008, 08:55 AM']We all knew that the mistakes your talking about would come from Joe. He is a rookie and needs time to grow and anybody who thought he was going to go out and play 16 perfect games is crazy. The thing about it is that his mistakes didn't really lose the games for us, they contributed to the loss but they weren't game changing mistakes, but he has surely kept us in those games by moving the ball on third downs.[/quote]

True, mistakes don't always cause loses. But how many people have you heard say that Flacco's fumble that was recovered for a touchdown was the reason why we lost?

In my case, I heard a lot of people saying that. Especially of my Raven's savvy school.

[POE]

Flacco made up for that fumble by driving down the field to make it 20-20 and take us into OT. Anyways,
look i'm not here to point blame on anybody because there are many things you can say was the reason we lost the last two games
but bottom line IMO is that Flacco has shown that he belongs as the starter, the coaching staff feels this as well and Troy will have to work on getting back to form and take it into next years camps. Flacco will win games for us but for right now he needs to just play his game, learn the playbook, build that chemistry with the WR's and learn from his mistakes. I don't like the QB throwing INT's but atleast Flacco is out there trying to make plays and grow into this Offense. We have seen a lot of QB's in the past few years that were afraid to get rid of the ball or just didn't have it, and it was obvious to see, but now we have somebody that looks like they we will be around for some time making plays and hopefully taking us to the top and his name is Flacco.

[neepo13]

[quote name='POE' post='74044' date='Oct 9 2008, 09:07 AM']Flacco made up for that fumble by driving down the field to make it 20-20 and take us into OT. Anyways,
look i'm not here to point blame on anybody because there are many things you can say was the reason we lost the last two games
but bottom line IMO is that Flacco has shown that he belongs as the starter, the coaching staff feels this as well and Troy will have to work on getting back to form and take it into next years camps. Flacco will win games for us but for right now he needs to just play his game, learn the playbook, build that chemistry with the WR's and learn from his mistakes. I don't like the QB throwing INT's but atleast Flacco is out there trying to make plays and grow into this Offense. We have seen a lot of QB's in the past few years that were afraid to get rid of the ball or just didn't have it, and it was obvious to see, but now we have somebody that looks like they we will be around for some time making plays and hopefully taking us to the top and his name is Flacco.[/quote]

I agree with all of what you just said. I think people need to realize that just because Flacco was named the starter at QB, that doesnt mean that this is the end of the road for Smith in Baltimore or that we need to bench Flacco for Smith to be on the field. Once he gets healthy again, I wouldnt be surprised to see him in the game at other positions. One of the big things that Harbaugh has been preaching is versatility. Guys need to be able to contribute in multiple ways. Thats one thing, I think Troy has going for him. I wish people would just support both guys in whatever role they play for the team, no matter who your favorite guy is. Flacco is the starter so he should have our support. Smith should also have our support in whatever role he plays for the rest of the year because I can honestly say I dont think he's going to be a backup QB much longer. I could see him making a transition to RB/ WR and an emergency backup QB.

[Jesse Conroy]

I believe in Flacco, but I am worried him being thrown in the fire like this when he doesnt need to be, scares me.

[POE]

[quote name='Jesse Conroy' post='74095' date='Oct 9 2008, 03:09 PM']I believe in Flacco, but I am worried him being thrown in the fire like this when he doesnt need to be, scares me.[/quote]

I'm not a big fan of sitting somebody down for them to learn especially if there is nobody in front of him to teach him. Most people learn by actually doing what they have been brought in to do. Flacco has shown that this is his way of learning and has actually voiced that as well. He will be fine in the long run and we will have to support him on his down days. The sky is the limit for this kid.

[Mad Dog Curtis]

[quote name='neepo13' post='74086' date='Oct 9 2008, 02:23 PM']I agree with all of what you just said. I think people need to realize that just because Flacco was named the starter at QB, that doesnt mean that this is the end of the road for Smith in Baltimore or that we need to bench Flacco for Smith to be on the field. Once he gets healthy again, I wouldnt be surprised to see him in the game at other positions. One of the big things that Harbaugh has been preaching is versatility. Guys need to be able to contribute in multiple ways. Thats one thing, I think Troy has going for him. I wish people would just support both guys in whatever role they play for the team, no matter who your favorite guy is. Flacco is the starter so he should have our support. Smith should also have our support in whatever role he plays for the rest of the year because I can honestly say I dont think he's going to be a backup QB much longer. I could see him making a transition to RB/ WR and an emergency backup QB.[/quote] I agree to an extent. The fact is Troy seems to be a nice young man but he will not be able to play another skill position effetively because he runs a 4.8 40 yd dash. Thats why he wasnt drafted as a "slash" type player. The reason he was drafted late as a quarterback was because he stunk-up the entire week of practice at the college all-star game where scounts and coaches put huge work in with the players all week. This was televised and was quite revealing.His supporters must not get the NFL channel.He was by far the worst (bar none) quarterback all week at the combine whichis televised to see what the scouts see. His chance in the NFL has come due to leadership qualities.
According to what I was told Kyle was going to start,period!

[neepo13]

With all due respect the combine workouts are not the best way to measure how good a guy will be. I think the reason, he did so bad was because he was overweight and out of shape. Which I think brought questions about his work ethic. Which is what ultimatley caused him to slip. I think he could probably run better then a 4.8 today.

[Mad Dog Curtis]

[quote name='neepo13' post='74137' date='Oct 9 2008, 05:23 PM']With all due respect the combine workouts are not the best way to measure how good a guy will be. I think the reason, he did so bad was because he was overweight and out of shape. Which I think brought questions about his work ethic. Which is what ultimatley caused him to slip. I think he could probably run better then a 4.8 today.[/quote]
With all due respect, League scouts believe its one of the three best tools to judge. Just go back to his college film and it doesnt translate well to the pros. Extremely inaccurate making pro type throws.The proof will be when the Ravens do not re-sign him. Also, it doesnt make sense to run a faster 40now with pads on.He runs a 4.8 and will never be faster. It wouldnt matter as a possesion receiver if he had hands like Howard Twilley.How many of you remember those hands?