Who Will Our New Qb Be ?

[callahan09]

[quote name='shootyoup' timestamp='1326341244' post='944341']
The facts are Flacco is 18th in qb rating, has a 57.6% completion percentage, regressed considerably in his fourth year, and was absolutely abysmal against the Jets, Seahawks, and Jaguars. I guess that ranks him right behind Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Drew Brees in the eyes of most Ravens fans. And of course a 91 QB rating, 17 touchdowns, and 5 interceptions is the statline of a useless game manager.
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Joe was not that bad against the Jets. That huge string of incompletions could be explained away as largely the fault of our play-calling (routes that weren't working with our receivers against their defenders), receiver play, and the Jets incredible defense in that game (coupled with some ref help in not calling Revis on some egregious illegal contact downfield).

[ravensdfan]

Well, I have this last thing to say, and then that is it for this thread.

Support your QB or he may very well go elsewhere. Then we will watch him take off much like Brees did once out from under Cam's iron control. And we'll be here, playing QB carousel once again.

That includes this "supposed" Ravens' media. Trent Dilfer comparison? Really? Right before a playoff game? Really?

Elite or not elite, who gives a flying hoot? The man wins games and does so in whatever manner it takes to win those games. Not to mention, IMO, he does so hampered greatly by our OC.

Mark my words, all this Flacco bashing could come back to bite us in the butt. You can tell that Flacco has had enough of it.

[jdynamite]

[quote name='wizard1' timestamp='1324855982' post='922684']

Bradys stats, 2000-01 New England 1 42.4 1 3 33.3 6 6.0 2.0 0 0 0 0 0.0 N/A 0 0 0 0 0 2001-02 New England 15 86.5 264 413 63.9 2843 189.5 6.9 18 12 36 43 2.9 1.2 0 41 216 12 3 2002-03 New England 16 85.7 373 601 62.1 3764 235.3 6.3 28 14 42 110 6.9 2.6 1 31 190 7 4 2003-04 New England 16 85.9 317 527 60.2 3620 226.3 6.9 23 12 42 63 3.9 1.5 1 32 219 13 5 2004-05 New England 16 92.6 288 474 60.8 3692 230.8 7.8 28 14 43 28 1.8 0.7 0 26 162 7 5 2005-06 New England 16 92.3 334 530 63.0 4110 256.9 7.8 26 14 27 89 5.6 3.3 1 26 188 4 3 2006-07 New England 16 87.9 319 516 61.8 3529 220.6 6.8 24 12 49 102 6.4 2.1 0 26 175 12 4 2007-08 New England 16 117.2 398 578 68.9 4806 300.4 8.3 50 8 37 98 6.1 2.6 2 21 128 5 4 2008-09 New England 1 83.9 7 11 63.6 76 76.0 6.9 0 0 0 0 0.0 N/A 0 0 0 0 0 2009-10 New England 16 96.2 371 565 65.7 4398 274.9 7.8 28 13 29 44 2.8 1.5 1 16 86 4 2 2010-11 New England 16 111.0 324 492 65.9 3900 243.8 7.9 36 4 31 30 1.9 1.0 1 25 175 3 1 2011-12 New England 15 105.1 378 576 65.6 4897 326.5 8.5 36 11 43 109 7.3 2.5 3 28 155 5
Brees stats 2001-02 San Diego 1 94.8 15 27 55.6 221 221.0 8.2 1 0 2 18 18.0 9.0 0 2 12 1 0 2002-03 San Diego 16 76.9 320 526 60.8 3284 205.3 6.2 17 16 38 130 8.1 3.4 1 24 180 1 0 2003-04 San Diego 11 67.5 205 356 57.6 2108 191.6 5.9 11 15 21 84 7.6 4.0 0 21 178 5 3 2004-05 San Diego 15 104.8 262 400 65.5 3159 210.6 7.9 27 7 53 85 5.7 1.6 2 18 131 7 2 2005-06 San Diego 16 89.2 323 500 64.6 3576 223.5 7.2 24 15 21 49 3.1 2.3 1 27 223 8 5 2006-07 New Orleans 16 96.2 356 554 64.3 4418 276.1 8.0 26 11 42 32 2.0 0.8 0 18 105 7 3 2007-08 New Orleans 16 89.4 440 652 67.5 4423 276.4 6.8 28 18 23 52 3.3 2.3 1 16 109 9 4 2008-09 New Orleans 16 96.2 413 635 65.0 5069 316.8 8.0 34 17 22 -1 -0.1 -0.0 0 13 92 6 1 2009-10 New Orleans 15 109.6 363 514 70.6 4388 292.5 8.5 34 11 22 33 2.2 1.5 2 20 135 9 6 2010-11 New Orleans 16 90.9 448 658 68.1 4620 288.8 7.0 33 22 18 -3 -0.2 -0.2 0 25 185 9 2 2011-12 New Orleans 14 109.1 417 583 71.5 4780 341.4 8.2 37 11 19 72 5.1 3.8 1 23 150 1 1
Mannings stats 1998-99 Indianapolis 16 71.2 326 575 56.7 3739 233.7 6.5 26 28 15 62 3.9 4.1 0 22 109 3 1 1999-00 Indianapolis 16 90.7 331 533 62.1 4135 258.4 7.8 26 15 35 73 4.6 2.1 2 14 116 5 3 2000-01 Indianapolis 16 94.7 357 571 62.5 4413 275.8 7.7 33 15 37 116 7.3 3.1 1 20 131 5 2 2001-02 Indianapolis 16 84.1 343 547 62.7 4131 258.2 7.6 26 23 35 157 9.8 4.5 4 29 232 7 3 2002-03 Indianapolis 16 88.8 392 591 66.3 4200 262.5 7.1 27 19 38 148 9.3 3.9 2 23 145 4 1 2003-04 Indianapolis 16 99.0 379 566 67.0 4267 266.7 7.5 29 10 28 26 1.6 0.9 0 18 107 6 1 2004-05 Indianapolis 16 121.1 336 497 67.6 4557 284.8 9.2 49 10 25 38 2.4 1.5 0 13 101 5 1 2005-06 Indianapolis 16 104.1 305 453 67.3 3747 234.2 8.3 28 10 33 45 2.8 1.4 0 17 81 5 2 2006-07 Indianapolis 16 101.0 362 557 65.0 4397 274.8 7.9 31 9 23 36 2.3 1.6 4 14 86 2 1 2007-08 Indianapolis 16 98.0 337 515 65.4 4040 252.5 7.8 31 14 20 -5 -0.3 -0.3 3 21 124 5 1 2008-09 Indianapolis 16 95.0 371 555 66.8 4002 250.1 7.2 27 12 20 21 1.3 1.1 1 14 86 1 0 2009-10 Indianapolis 16 99.9 393 571 68.8 4500 281.3 7.9 33 16 19 -13 -0.8 -0.7 0 10 74 2 0 2010-11 Indianapolis 16 91.9 450 679 66.3 4700 293.8 6.9 33 17 18 18 1.1 1.0 0 16 91 3 1
Rodgers stats 2008-09 Green Bay 16 93.8 341 536 63.6 4038 252.4 7.5 28 13 56 207 12.9 3.7 4 34 231 9 3 2009-10 Green Bay 16 103.2 350 541 64.7 4434 277.1 8.2 30 7 58 316 19.8 5.4 5 50 306 10 4 2010-11 Green Bay 15 101.2 312 475 65.7 3922 261.5 8.3 28 11 64 356 23.7 5.6 4 31 193 4 1 2011-12 Green Bay 14 120.1 322 473 68.1 4360 311.4 9.2 40 6 56 239 17.1 4.3 3 36 219 4 0
Roethlisbergers stats 2004-05 Pittsburgh 14 98.1 196 295 66.4 2621 187.2 8.9 17 11 56 144 10.3 2.6 1 30 213 2 2 2005-06 Pittsburgh 12 98.6 168 268 62.7 2385 198.8 8.9 17 9 31 69 5.8 2.2 3 23 129 2 1 2006-07 Pittsburgh 15 75.4 280 469 59.7 3513 234.2 7.5 18 23 32 98 6.5 3.1 2 46 280 5 2 2007-08 Pittsburgh 15 104.1 264 404 65.3 3154 210.3 7.8 32 11 35 204 13.6 5.8 2 47 347 9 3 2008-09 Pittsburgh 16 80.1 281 469 59.9 3301 206.3 7.0 17 15 34 101 6.3 3.0 2 46 284 14 7 2009-10 Pittsburgh 15 100.5 337 506 66.6 4328 288.5 8.6 26 12 40 82 5.5 2.1 2 50 348 7 3 2010-11 Pittsburgh 12 97.0 240 389 61.7 3200 266.7 8.2 17 5 34 176 14.7 5.2 2 32 220 7 3 2011-12 Pittsburgh 14 91.5 301 473 63.6 3856 275.4 8.2 21 14 31 70 5.0 2.3 0 38 247 8 5
As you see-in every case the stats speak for themselves.Each one of these QB was playing consistent good football by their 4th year and not one of the went backwards like Flacco is doing. Do I need to say more-you obviously don't know anything about football so please quit posting directly towards me-I don't have time to waste on such trifles.
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Please never do this again.... It's just a glob of numbers not organized not labeled... U didn't need to copy every single stat. U could have put YDs , Tds , Int, Qbr , Yr. then wrote it going downward.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1326382550' post='944677']
Please never do this again.... It's just a glob of numbers not organized not labeled... U didn't need to copy every single stat. U could have put YDs , Tds , Int, Qbr , Yr. then wrote it going downward.
[/quote]

It doesn't even mean anything. I already showed how if you go by QB rating, Joe matches up well with the guys on the list. IDK why he even bothered posting it. And his statement about "consistent football" is also totally false. Drew Brees first 4 years starting qb rating 76.9, 67.5, 104.8, 89.2. Much worse than Flacco his first 2 years, and clearly he DID go backwards from year three to year four (which was his 5th year in San Diego - he didn't start his first year). Joe Flacco year 2 and 3, rating 88.9, 93.6. Tom Brady year's 2-4 86.5, 85.7, 86.9. So Joe's numbers in some years were actually better than these guys. Wizard1's post has zero logic to it.

A/N: Why is this thread still going? Unless we're trying to break the longest thread in forum history record, I feel like there is nothing else that needs to be said. There are no available quarterbacks that could do what Joe does.

[SecretAgentMan]

I have to bring this back, I am sorry. But to ALL you Flacco Haters, who will we bring back? The answer is an obvious no one, as he [b][u][i]HE IS NOT THE PROBLEM[/i][/u][/b], he will never be elite, but was Aikman during the regular season? No, he wins though.

[frangecko112]

we will probably never see flacco's full potential until cam leaves. i dont want a drew brees situation to happen to flacco cause what happens if we do let him go and he leads another team to glory? gotta see what flacco can do with a cam-less offense

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='frangecko112' timestamp='1354503094' post='1243852']
we will probably never see flacco's full potential until cam leaves. i dont want a drew brees situation to happen to flacco cause what happens if we do let him go and he leads another team to glory? gotta see what flacco can do with a cam-less offense
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Exactly. We will never know until he is gone.

[SecretAgentMan]

The Only Stat I care about is Wins. This in theory makes Tebow a good QB, but Flacco wins.

[shootyoup]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1354503449' post='1243871']
This in theory makes Tebow a good QB, but Flacco wins.
[/quote]
Elaborate. You have no problem with the notion that Tebow and Aex Smith are elite quarterbacks, judging by wins?

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='shootyoup' timestamp='1354504602' post='1243937']
Elaborate. You have no problem with the notion that Tebow and Aex Smith are elite quarterbacks, judging by wins?
[/quote].
They are not as good in the clutch as Joe is.

[A Fish Called Yanda]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1354504648' post='1243940']
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They are not as good in the clutch as Joe is.
[/quote]

Yep, that really worked out for us tonight...

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='terpsnation' timestamp='1354504724' post='1243943']
Yep, that really worked out for us tonight...
[/quote]
Well, to be fair we all sucked. And he didnt get a real chance in the last 2, and as long as we have cam we will never know how many licks it takes to get to a center of a tootsie pop (It's 69).

[A Fish Called Yanda]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1354504805' post='1243946']
Well, to be fair we all sucked. And he didnt get a real chance in the last 2, and as long as we have cam we will never know how many licks it takes to get to a center of a tootsie pop (It's 69).
[/quote]

I'm just ready to get Cam out of here so we can actually determine if he's the problem.

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='terpsnation' timestamp='1354504968' post='1243958']
I'm just ready to get Cam out of here so we can actually determine if he's the problem.
[/quote]
Theres a 95% chance he is the problem

[flaccopoe]

Flacco shall be our QB going forward, period! Only an injury could change that! Who else could we start anyway, some D II college kid?

[flaccopoe]

Many other teams are scouring the country for QBs too! The Jets and Eagles have a lot more money in their war chests than we do, and much higher draft picks.

[Ravenslifer]

Ah, I flipped back a page and saw that ridiculous wizard1 monologue. The pain. Why did you have to revive this thread, why?

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1354505785' post='1244007']
Ah, I flipped back a page and saw that ridiculous wizard1 monologue. The pain. Why did you have to revive this thread, why?
[/quote]
Reading that again killed me on the inside too. But it had to be done.

[theFRANCHISE]

This thread went 37 pages and 11 months before being revived.

Let this zombie thread die.