Flacco Should Tuck And Run More Often

[OUravensfan]

I've been saying this all year, we know Joe Flacco is deceptively fast. Also, teams don't expect him to run so there is usually no gameplan for it, not a lot of teams are going to waste a linebacker as a QB spy on Flacco like they would with Vick. We should use this to our advantage, often, our recievers are not open downfield and a grat way to keep the defense honest and relax the coverage is to keep them on their heels with the threat of Flacco running the ball. I really think he should do this more, especially in the post season. Think about it, not a lot of teams are expecting it and Flacco is good when he does it. This would, in turn, hopefully open up more plays for the receivers as well.

What do you all think?

[edreedfromtheu]

Typically, a QB draw is a decision made by the QB if he sees the right defense.

Problem is... I don't believe Flacco has the vision and mental capacity to understand when the draw will be wide open and when it won't be.

But hey, it's probably just Cam Cameron's fault for not being super aggressive and calling QB draws right off the bat. Because that's how offenses work in the NFL!

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1324766265' post='921538']
Typically, a QB draw is a decision made by the QB if he sees the right defense.

Problem is... I don't believe Flacco has the vision and mental capacity to understand when the draw will be wide open and when it won't be.

But hey, it's probably just Cam Cameron's fault for not being super aggressive and calling QB draws right off the bat. Because that's how offenses work in the NFL!
[/quote]

How is your boy doing on the Omaha Nighthawks?

[OUravensfan]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1324766265' post='921538']
Typically, a QB draw is a decision made by the QB if he sees the right defense.

Problem is... I don't believe Flacco has the vision and mental capacity to understand when the draw will be wide open and when it won't be.

But hey, it's probably just Cam Cameron's fault for not being super aggressive and calling QB draws right off the bat. Because that's how offenses work in the NFL!
[/quote]

I'm not so much referring to called QB draws as much. I'm talking about when he has already looked downfield, no one is there, and instead of checking it down (which often isn't there when we play a team that knows how to defend us) he should tuck it and run to try to pick up yardage versus forcing a throw. This worked well in the Chargers game and worked well in the Browns game.

And by no means do I want this to turn into a bash Flacco thread. We have him for this post season at least, so I'm looking for ways to add more variety and threats to our offense, I think this is one way.

[ROH522155]

[quote name='edreedfromtheu' timestamp='1324766265' post='921538']
Typically, a QB draw is a decision made by the QB if he sees the right defense.

Problem is... I don't believe Flacco has the vision and mental capacity to understand when the draw will be wide open and when it won't be.

But hey, it's probably just Cam Cameron's fault for not being super aggressive and calling QB draws right off the bat. Because that's how offenses work in the NFL!
[/quote]

Oh man if only we still had Troy...

[True]

Ravens run a pretty strict Air Coryell where the QB stays in the pocket most of the time. You don't see many boots or rollouts in the offense (though IIRC I think I saw one and Ed Dickson dropped a pass) so Joe running is usually if the pocket breaks down or no one is open.

[Y2J]

Yes! I definitely agree. I don't understand why he doesn't do it more frequently. He did it a lot his rookie year and also in college.

[OUravensfan]

[quote name='Y2J' timestamp='1324766861' post='921558']
Yes! I definitely agree. I don't understand why he doesn't do it more frequently. He did it a lot his rookie year and also in college.
[/quote]

Thanks. I remember his first game as a rookie, the 50 yard TD run vs the Bengals, that was awesome.

[Grapple Raven]

Whatever it takes to win...I'm in!

Go Ravens!!!

[hawkprey]

He really should run more instead of throwing it away. But the pressure usually comes from in front and not laterally so there's not always room to move.

[JohnJohnson]

He fumbled at the end of the run though, that's always a concern.

[Gordo52]

Well now they know! But yea I agree. Like seriously I think we should design a play for him to just run.

[hawkprey]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1324770064' post='921675']
Well now they know! But yea I agree. Like seriously I think we should design a play for him to just run.
[/quote]
Careful what you say or you'll get Cam running Joe in an end-around.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1324770220' post='921679']
Careful what you say or you'll get Cam running Joe in an end-around.
[/quote]
Lmao. Man I cannot wait till we get rid of him

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1324770220' post='921679']
Careful what you say or you'll get Cam running Joe in an end-around.
[/quote]
Lmao!!!!

Joe can definitely run, think about the playoff game in KC last year. I remember Joe saying something jokingly along the lines of "I felt like Vick" after [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/banana1.gif[/img]

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1324770064' post='921675']
Well now they know! But yea I agree. Like seriously I think we should design a play for him to just run.
[/quote]

Cam ran a draw with him against the 49ers on the goal-line; Joe got stuffed.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1324771060' post='921706']

Cam ran a draw with him against the 49ers on the goal-line; Joe got stuffed.
[/quote]
Well against the 49ers was pretty stupid lol

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1324771060' post='921706']

Cam ran a draw with him against the 49ers on the goal-line; Joe got stuffed.
[/quote]

Aren't the 49ers the number 1 run D in the NFL by like 20 yards, though? I mean, they've got the closest guy to Ray Lewis in the last decade in Willis. Again, shows that Cam loves to run our weaknesses against our enemies' strengths.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1324773109' post='921763']
Aren't the 49ers the number 1 run D in the NFL by like 20 yards, though? I mean, they've got the closest guy to Ray Lewis in the last decade in Willis. Again, shows that Cam loves to run our weaknesses against our enemies' strengths.
[/quote]

I wasn't defending Cam. I just brought an instance where he actually drew up a play for Joe to run.

Considering the opponent and the situation, it was a terrible call.

[wayne]

Not a designed run but simply, when you see the LBs turn their backs to go guard someone, he should take off. Make the defense worry about you taking off and maybe sometimes leaving a spy out there with one less defender to cover the players we have going out. Also, you don't have to be blazing fast to require a spy, just as long as you taking off getting positive yards and D's will have to respect it.

[OUravensfan]

If Cam is back next season.....I don't even know what to say.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1324773343' post='921767']

I wasn't defending Cam. I just brought an instance where he actually drew up a play for Joe to run.

Considering the opponent and the situation, it was a terrible call.
[/quote]

Yeah, that's my point. I mean, I think Flacco could run more often, but I don't like it because I don't think it's a huge strength of his. If it was Cleveland's run D, go for it, but Cam does it when he shouldn't. I think if Cam actually did it when it has a good chance of succeeding, we'd see it more. But I'm convinced one of Cam's thought processes is to go into a game and deliberately try to attack an opponent's strengths, and also to try and use our weaknesses to beat opponents. It's like he knows what this team does well, but figures so does everyone else and thinks "Aha, I will fool them all by deliberately doing what we aren't good at because they won't expect it."

[OUravensfan]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1324773751' post='921777']
Not a designed run but simply, when you see the LBs turn their backs to go guard someone, he should take off. Make the defense worry about you taking off and maybe sometimes leaving a spy out there with one less defender to cover the players we have going out. Also, you don't have to be blazing fast to require a spy, just as long as you taking off getting positive yards and D's will have to respect it.
[/quote]

This exactly. I was talking about taking off and running when the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd options are not there versus holding onto the ball too long. I'm against a called QB draw for the most part unless its in a goal line situation and it makes sense to call it.

[BenDufusberger]

Flacco should never be dancing around the pocket for 7 or 8 seconds like he did against the Chargers. If he can pick up a few yards , he should run downfield , or else throw it away.

He doesn't run downfield often enough to make defenses worry about it , and the more things they have to worry about , the better it is for us.

[Militant X 1]

Joe made a good run today!

~Mili

[flynismo]

If our recievers would catch the balls thrown to them, Flacco wouldn't have to run it.

[BenDufusberger]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1324799599' post='922209']
If our recievers would catch the balls thrown to them, Flacco wouldn't have to run it.
[/quote]

True.

Not much sense running a ball that you've already passed.

[reediddy]

[quote name='BenDufusberger' timestamp='1324786324' post='922049']
Flacco should never be dancing around the pocket for 7 or 8 seconds like he did against the Chargers. If he can pick up a few yards , he should run downfield , or else throw it away.

He doesn't run downfield often enough to make defenses worry about it , and the more things they have to worry about , the better it is for us.
[/quote]

I agree with this. I feel like he did a lot more of that his rookie year! Made the smart play, either pick up a few yards with his legs or throw the ball away if nothing is there, rather than taking the sack! Don't know why he stopped doing it to be honest. CAM'S FAULT

[TXRaven]

Joe is sneaky fast, and this is something I would like to see more of, but I also want QB 1 healthy, and he will take alot more hits this way.

[Mr. GM]

Flacco is like the Cal Ripken of the Ravens. He never gets hurt. Imagine the possibility if that were Tyrod Taylor back there!