Jason La Canfora Sees Norv Headed To Baltimore

[AsianRice]

Norv is the best candidate for our newly offensive coordinator. We will go on strike if Cam is still around next year..

Right now we just focus on taking a big whip on Cam so he can call the right plays from now on.....hopefully we're going deep into playoffs...

[Jamal]

Amen to that.

I do wonder how his offense differs from San Diego since we don't really have the tall WR's he has there.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='grape drank' timestamp='1324489763' post='917443']How about we set up an Xbox on the sideline and just ask madden.....would be a vast improvement.[/quote]

Hahaha, I'm starting to think that this just might work.

[Jamal]

[quote name='Twistidfunk' timestamp='1324485886' post='917362']
With number of teams looking for a head coach, yes, I do think he could get it. I think there are potentially 8 teams looking for head coaches.

Hey, I would like Norv as much as the next guy but just don't see it
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I don't know why anyone would want him as HC.

He had all the talent in San Diego, but besides 1 AFCC run, he hasn't done much.

I think its pretty obvious, that Norv is an OC and nothing more.

[Bltravens]

I'd take Norv in a heartbeat. We have some wiggle room in the draft this year with not many extreme holes to fill now that some of the young cats are starting to perform, it could be feasible to move around the middle rounds for a big receiver that can play a little bit. Regardless we have Torrey that can blow the top off of coverages.

[True]

Norv Turner could be the Wade Philips of this off season. They are not HC material because they can't lead a team, but are specialists in their area of expertise. Norv can evaluate the talent given and scheme a way to use them to the best of their abilities.

[PuRock]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1324491479' post='917474']
I don't know why anyone would want him as HC.

He had all the talent in San Diego, but besides 1 AFCC run, he hasn't done much.

I think its pretty obvious, that Norv is an OC and nothing more.
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Plus he's had a previous failed attempt as a HC in Washington & Oakland. Back to the OC for a few more years.

[FerrariFan87]

Does Norv make the system work as well as it does or is it because he has Pro Bowl players at basically every skill position? We don't have SD's talent, but I think Norv could help develop it...

[Bltravens]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1324494555' post='917540']
Does Norv make the system work as well as it does or is it because he has Pro Bowl players at basically every skill position? We don't have SD's talent, but I think Norv could help develop it...
[/quote]
That certainly helps, especially when your Pro Bowl WR is a 6'5 230 and can run past corners, and your TE is a converted basketball player. But I think Norv would realize quick the players strengths and design game plans to that.

[PuRock]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' timestamp='1324494555' post='917540']
Does Norv make the system work as well as it does or is it because he has Pro Bowl players at basically every skill position? We don't have SD's talent, but I think Norv could help develop it...
[/quote]

Ofcourse pro bowl players help the system succeed. But Norv is an excellent play caller in general. He's great at installing offensive game plans. He knows how to attack defenses better than most. With or without pro bowl players, he gives your offense a better chance to succeed.

But as a HC, he sucks. He just doesn't have the fortitude to lead a team. Norv at his best is an offensive coordinator. Give the man a head coach who has that gut and leadership qualities and he'll be fine.

[Tank 92]

[quote name='Twistidfunk' timestamp='1324485886' post='917362']
With number of teams looking for a head coach, yes, I do think he could get it. I think there are potentially 8 teams looking for head coaches.

Hey, I would like Norv as much as the next guy but just don't see it
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[quote name='Fricknmaniac' timestamp='1324483690' post='917331']

Teams don't want the big name head coach that hasn't won a Super Bowl, they want the big name head coach that HAS won a Super Bowl. Just ask Marty Schottenheimer, who got fired after a 14-2 season and didn't get a single look from any teams in the NFL.

That being said, I'd rather have a trained monkey as our offensive coordinator than Cam Cameron.
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[izvoodoo]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1324495469' post='917551']

Ofcourse pro bowl players help the system succeed. But Norv is an excellent play caller in general. He's great at installing offensive game plans. He knows how to attack defenses better than most. With or without pro bowl players, he gives your offense a better chance to succeed.

But as a HC, he sucks. He just doesn't have the fortitude to lead a team. Norv at his best is an offensive coordinator. Give the man a head coach who has that gut and leadership qualities and he'll be fine.
[/quote]

Agreed, I don't see him as head coaching material. But we do need better players too. I feel like fans naturally apologize for every player BUT qb.

[PeRK82]

I dont know why you guys want Norv so bad, he reminds me of CAM. They run the same system. Anyways if it would mean we would throw it more (slants,seam routes, PLAYERS STRENGTHS) Then i would be happy and all for it. We need a change anyways, but if we do get him, lets not spend alot of money or a say 3 to 4 yr contract, 2 at best and if our Offense plays horrid with Norv the first season. Lets just fire him and not wait because like i said, it is the same system. So it wouldn't be like the Offense will be revamped.

[JO_75]

[quote name='Twistidfunk' timestamp='1324483979' post='917334']

You really think Ozzie and Biscotti will sign off on a 3 mill Offensive Coordinator? I don't.
[/quote]

You think they saw what the Chargers did to us on Sunday Night? I believe they would sign off on that.


[quote name='grape drank' timestamp='1324489763' post='917443']
How about we set up an Xbox on the sideline and just ask madden.....would be a vast improvement.
[/quote]

Great Idea! Now only if there was enough time in between plays to use different plays from every team's playbook.

Joe: "What's the next play?"
Guy: Just run it up the gut while I look at other team's playbooks.
Joe: Ok.
Guy: Wait... wait, call time out we found a play!
Joe: Timeout.
Ravens Board: There goes our wasted timeout.
Guy: Ok Joe, I found this on the Packers playbook playing as them, run this play here.
Joe: Ok.

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='PeRK82' timestamp='1324495794' post='917557']
I dont know why you guys want Norv so bad, he reminds me of CAM. They run the same system. Anyways if it would mean we would throw it more (slants,seam routes, PLAYERS STRENGTHS) Then i would be happy and all for it. We need a change anyways, but if we do get him, lets not spend alot of money or a say 3 to 4 yr contract, 2 at best and if our Offense plays horrid with Norv the first season. Lets just fire him and not wait because like i said, it is the same system. So it wouldn't be like the Offense will be revamped.
[/quote]
All I need to say is refer to the SNF whooping Norv's team put on us. Our defense has seen Cam's version of the Air Coryell for FOUR YEARS and they played against SD like it was a system the had never seen before in their entire lives. Yes they run the same system, but Norv runs it the way it should be run if you want to actually put together a sound offensive game plan. He isn't predictable, and he actually tailors his scheme to suit the opponent.

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='PuRock' timestamp='1324495469' post='917551']

Ofcourse pro bowl players help the system succeed. But Norv is an excellent play caller in general. He's great at installing offensive game plans. He knows how to attack defenses better than most. With or without pro bowl players, he gives your offense a better chance to succeed.

But as a HC, he sucks. He just doesn't have the fortitude to lead a team. Norv at his best is an offensive coordinator. Give the man a head coach who has that gut and leadership qualities and he'll be fine.
[/quote]
The offensive version of Dick LeBeau.

[Fricknmaniac]

[quote name='callahan09' timestamp='1324488177' post='917418']
Is there even really a chance that Norv gets fired by the Chargers? I don't see them firing him... I don't think the 6-game losing streak the team suffered was that much his fault at all. Norv is a good coach, his players just don't always execute.
[/quote]

Remember, this is the same team that fired a head coach for going 14-2, getting home field advantage, and losing their first playoff game.

If Norv doesn't win out then I'd say he's almost assuredly going to get fired. A.J. Smith is a dick and he's going to always make sure the coach gets the blame before he does. (Though this year it might not save him.)

[Romo Ravens]

Yea it's Super Bowl or bust for Norv, much like Cam. It just sucks we have to lose in the playoffs to get Norv

[jagster]

we need help on both sides of the ball

[Grapple Raven]

I have been thinking the same thing for a while now, and couldn't have said it better myself. Thank you for voicing it so succinctly, BMORElegacy, Amen, brother, Amennnnnnnnnnn!!!

[nk02442]

[quote name='PeRK82' timestamp='1324495794' post='917557']
I dont know why you guys want Norv so bad, he reminds me of CAM. They run the same system. Anyways if it would mean we would throw it more (slants,seam routes, PLAYERS STRENGTHS) Then i would be happy and all for it. We need a change anyways, but if we do get him, lets not spend alot of money or a say 3 to 4 yr contract, 2 at best and if our Offense plays horrid with Norv the first season. Lets just fire him and not wait because like i said, it is the same system. So it wouldn't be like the Offense will be revamped.
[/quote]
Who cares what it costs. Coach Salaries dont effect the Sallary Cap. Biscotti has one of the best run organizations in the league and is top 15 in revenue and profits. Not to mention he also owns the largest staffing company in the world. If it would cost him 10Mil a year to win a SB, he would do it in a hearbeat.

[nk02442]

[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1324496080' post='917563']
All I need to say is refer to the SNF whooping Norv's team put on us. Our defense has seen Cam's version of the Air Coryell for FOUR YEARS and they played against SD like it was a system the had never seen before in their entire lives. Yes they run the same system, but Norv runs it the way it should be run if you want to actually put together a sound offensive game plan. He isn't predictable, and he actually tailors his scheme to suit the opponent.
[/quote]
While Norv is a much better and competent coach them cam, and Rivers makes Flacco looke like a schoolgirl........They also have the personal and had the pass pro to make it happen. 3 huge fast strong great handed recivers.. wasnt so much the scheme as the personel.

[CLAV410]

I think a lot of these responses are just knee jerk responses .. The fact that he DESTRPYED our D the other day that is what remember most. Just keep in mind that it was just last year that Turner was criticized for losing to us after haveing a big lead. They said that he went too CONSERVATIVE gee where have we heard that before ? Lets chill out a bit and not make any knee jerk decisions !

[baltravens]

[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1324476636' post='917226']
I was watching NFL Network and they had Jason La Canfora in studio discussing where coaches who are on the hot seat could be headed next year if they were fired by their current teams. Canfora is adamant that Norv Turner could travel to the east coast and take up the duties as our offensive coordinator.

I realize this has been discussed in the past, but I believe this is the first time that a notable analyst has shed some light on our offensive woes and suggested that Norv could be in our future.

My honest opinion is that I would absolutely LOVE for Norv to head to Baltimore. As the gameplan he devised against us showed, he knows how to tailor a gameplan for an opponent. He knows how to play to the strengths of his players. He flat out destroyed our defense. A sight I haven't seen as long as I've been watching this team. It was a humbling experience to say the least.

We have so much talent on the offensive side of the ball, and it has been so frustrating for me as a fan to watch such a talented group of players play FAR BELOW their collective potential. Norv is practically a much more accomplished version of Cam Cameron. He runs the same Air Coryell system, just a more successful variant.

I think Cam's time is up and we need to part ways (a sentiment many Ravens fans share). I am a firm believer Joe has the potential to become that elite passer we all want him to be, and I feel that for that to happen Cam needs to go. Norv would be perfect for this organization and I for one hope he finds his way to the Castle.

CAN CAM HIRE NORV
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I am a big Cam detractor as any here, but let's wait until the season is finished and our gallant march into the playoffs ends before we look to replace him. After all, he may just get on a strong run and have our offense gel propelling us to the Super Bowl. (Let everything run its course.)

[Kwothdaraven]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1324480913' post='917289']


You're forgetting that there's only a couple teams that run the Air Coryell. Just us, SD and Minesolta run his type of system. So it's not a big market.
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There's a reason for that. Its a garbage system. Honestly id rather not sign norv and ditch the air coryell junk all together

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='Kwothdaraven' timestamp='1324502573' post='917687']
There's a reason for that. Its a garbage system. Honestly id rather not sign norv and ditch the air coryell junk all together
[/quote]

Have you watched a chargers game in your life? the Coryell dominates with the right personnel. the big thing we need right now is a #1 receiver.

I'm a big fan of boldin, but we need a guy who can run every route and beat man coverage. Like a kenny britt or (more realistically) a Hakeem Nicks type.

Giants run this system too. A lot of teams do. Besides Flacco is not a good fit for a WCO.

[cursona pirate]

It would be great!! but we will see what happens after this season is over.

[usmccharles]

living here in san diego i have to hear this talk every day, so i can shine some light what the fans are saying here. From something said today the SD front office will evaluate norv at the end of the year no matter how they finish, 48% of fans here (i think the poll was like over 5k) said they would rather miss the playoffs so they can fire norv rather than making the playoffs for the chance of having him comeback. the radio show i listen to every has callers and ive only heard one fan call in and say that he would rather keep norv because he does have a winning record with the chargers and the grass isnt greener on the other side.

That being said, id love to have him here, im intrigued to see what he could do without having an elite WR but having an elite RB

[AsianRice]

[quote name='Romo Ravens' timestamp='1324498795' post='917609']
Yea it's Super Bowl or bust for Norv, much like Cam. It just sucks we have to lose in the playoffs to get Norv
[/quote]
As much as I want Norv as anyone here does, I want us to go deep into the playoff this year cuz I want the Lombard Trophy bad......

Lose in playoff to can Cam for Norv or SB and keep Cam for another year; I think I want SB and ignore the nightmare consequence like sleeping with Kate Beckinsale behind my wife's back. yike! I might get manslaughtered if my wife hears that ......

[BMORElegacy]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1324500256' post='917635']
While Norv is a much better and competent coach them cam, and Rivers makes Flacco looke like a schoolgirl........They also have the personal and had the pass pro to make it happen. 3 huge fast strong great handed recivers.. wasnt so much the scheme as the personel.
[/quote]
Rivers was standing behind a patchwork offensive line that essentially neutralized Suggs and the rest of our pass rushers for the entire game. You can't tell me that wasn't because of scheme.