10 Carries

[ratedr]

That's all Rice had.

Granted, we had to abandon the run when it was clear that the defense couldn't stop SD.

But we abandoned it even before we needed to. The offense moved the ball so well when the attack was balanced.

Total team loss, yes. But Cam Cameron still doesn't learn. Joe Flacco is not elite and cannot carry this team on a consistent basis. He needs to accept this and give Ray Rice the ball.

[Static]

Oh Rice still got the ball, just the worst way possible.

[Fricknmaniac]

Well, Rice had 9 carries in the first half, which is about on pace for what you'd expect for him for the entire game. I'd expect him to get a few more carries late in the 4thQ as we're trying to milk the clock when you're ahead.

Remember that by the time the Ravens touched the ball in the 2nd half they were down by 17 and that pretty much dictates you need to go one dimensional. It's unfortunate, but at least this time the main reason we lost wasn't because of a lack of Ray Rice carries.

[berad]

Ha hard to justify running the play when you're down 17/24 points. Rice his touches in the form of receptions - still dropped one.

[The Raven]

Well, you can say all you want about us getting behind, but we still abandoned the run too early, just like we have all season. Rice was killin it on the ground, and we abandoned it. Way to go Cam.

[Militant X 1]

Ray only touched the ball 2xs in that first drive. Cam went strictly passing for some dumb reason and then we had to settle for a FG...oh..that Cundiff missed! that set the tone for the rest of the game!

~Mili

[The Prestige]

I don't think Cundiff's miss set any tone.

The defensive line couldn't get pressure, Danny Gorrer or Haruki Nakamara would have done a better job against Floyd and Jackson than Jimmy Smith did.

I do think the offense needs better protection, faster tempo, and more variety that includes new ways to get Ray Rice the ball and a lot of dinking and dunking, hurrying to the line for a quick hand-off to Rice.

[reediddy]

Our defense was just flat out...flat. Inability to stop their passing game at all. Philip was on-point today. Not much we really could have done

[D-Rey]

I can't Cam for this one. We had too pass.

[Fricknmaniac]

The fact that the Chargers never punted the ball should tell you all you need to know about this game.

[OUravensfan]

When the D plays so badly giving up big play after play, you have to abandon everything and become one dimensional. This is the risk with player explosive high powered offenses. I don't know what happened tonight, but that was not the team i've been watching these last 14 weeks. God help us, that secondary needs to wake up fast.

[H8R]

Enough with the armchair crap. The defense was only on the field for 60 plays compared to 57, the other way..... Rice getting more carries wouldn't have helped a damn thing. People really need to realize that just because you suggest something different then what the game plan was..... It doesn't mean it magically works.

[jdynamite]

This wasn't the same as him not getting carries in other games. Because if the defense had gotten a few stops and kept it close rice would have gotten more carries because from the beginning he and ricky both had success with the run.

Rice could have easily gotten 20 carries for 100. Yds if the score were closer. The 17-7 half time was heart-breaking enough but to get drive on right after half-time 24-7 made it wear offense was pressing for a score. Since the defense couldn't stop them at all....

[K-Dog]

[quote name='H8R' timestamp='1324272058' post='912548']
Enough with the armchair crap. The defense was only on the field for 60 plays compared to 57, the other way..... Rice getting more carries wouldn't have helped a damn thing. People really need to realize that just because you suggest something different then what the game plan was..... It doesn't mean it magically works.
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Thank you.

Is it that hard to admit, wile we are a good team, we simply got beat?

[Ksmith088]

Despite Cam Cameron being my least favorite, and really hated, person in the Ravens organization, I am not going to [profanity deleted] on him for this game. The D got worked.

[UMDan]

[quote name='berad' timestamp='1324269773' post='912322']
Ha hard to justify running the play when you're down 17/24 points. Rice his touches in the form of receptions - still dropped one.
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Exactly. It's an unfortunate trend. We cannot come from behind because we abandon the ground game (which is understandable) and Joe looked terrible when we had to throw. We need to address these issues about getting behind and how to continue to have a good balance when we do. We need to be able to catch up going into the playoffs.

[Mr. GM]

"ADJUSTMENTS" thats what this game came down to, its just that simple. That Ravens did not make ANY adjustments and the Chargers did. It was brilliant how the Chargers had TE McMichaels chip blocking Suggs all night. It was brilliant how P. Rivers so single coverage and TRUSTED his receivers to make the PLAY. Flacco DOES NOT believe in his receivers can make the play, so he dumps it off to R. Rice every single play. Thats why Rice leads the league in yards from scrimmage and our WR/TE never have any stats to speak of. Im not knocking Rice, but Flacco has to thrown the ball up like he did in the St. Louis game. JUST THROW THE BALL FLACCO!

[frezeal33]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1324269283' post='912258']
That's all Rice had.

Granted, we had to abandon the run when it was clear that the defense couldn't stop SD.

But we abandoned it even before we needed to. The offense moved the ball so well when the attack was balanced.

Total team loss, yes. But Cam Cameron still doesn't learn. Joe Flacco is not elite and cannot carry this team on a consistent basis. He needs to accept this and give Ray Rice the ball.
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Did you see how many receptions Rice had? More than ANY receiver.

[Alexir]

As much as I love to blame a game on Cam and Joe (mostly because all of you think he is some sort of amazing QB), this one came down to our secondary. We could not stop a nosebleed.

Suggs is no longer our defensive MVP, it's gotta be Webby!

[nk02442]

I blame Joe and Cam. This was clearly a shootout. I dont know if there is a defense in the league that could stop Rivers/Gates/Floyd/Jackson when they are all healthy and hitting on all cylinders. They are too big, fast , and strong for just about any corner to cover. The real shame was not giving saftey coverage. I would rather give up the middle of the field all day then the long bombs that sealed out fate.

Sometimes a team needs to put up big points to win. You have to go into a shootout and score points if only to keep the other team off the field with possesion.

[izvoodoo]

Look guys... Rivers went super saiyan. that's all.

[edreedfromtheu]

When you're down 17 or whatever... the objective should be to score points. If you can't do anything passing the ball, then why pass? Of running the ball is the only way your offense can do anything... then run the ball.

If they aren't going to use Rice, then they better not pay him huge money in the offseason. You can't tell us he's worth a bunch of money, if you've been scared to give him the ball this whole season in big games.

[Ravens549]

I have to agree on a previous post about Webb. He is the most influential player on our D IMO.
Letting Reed and Ray out in the open to cover without Webb hurt us. Ladarius helps cover a LOT of field.

[balimore]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1324393788' post='916126']
Look guys... Rivers went super saiyan. that's all.
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[usmccharles]

if i see a stat line one more time about rice getting less than 20 carries im going to be furious

[wayne]

[quote name='ratedr' timestamp='1324269283' post='912258']
That's all Rice had.

Granted, we had to abandon the run when it was clear that the defense couldn't stop SD.

But we abandoned it even before we needed to. The offense moved the ball so well when the attack was balanced.

Total team loss, yes. But Cam Cameron still doesn't learn. Joe Flacco is not elite and cannot carry this team on a consistent basis. He needs to accept this and give Ray Rice the ball.
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We didn't have to abandon the run when we got down by 10 and if anything, running the ball would have been great for us b/c it would have slowed the pace of the game down to give our D a chance to maybe regroup and get some stops. Rice needs 20+ carries for us, make the run the main identity of the O again and feed off of that.

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='balimore' timestamp='1324506898' post='917755']
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Pretty much summed up sunday.

[Ravenslifer]

1) The Chargers have a great passing D and a poor run D.

2) Rice was killing them when he was getting the attempts.

3) Joe is at his best when we run play-action, which requires that the other team believes you will run the ball. Kind of hard to do when your pro-bowl running back is on the bench.

4) Cam Cameron seems to forget the mistakes that Don Coryell made with Dan Fouts. There were games where he relied entirely on Fouts also and not enough on Chuck Muncie. The same thing happened. The difference? Don tried to learn from his mistakes. Cam seems to be of the mindset that you keep trying something that doesn't work (i.e. the end around) until it does work at least once, then keep using it and referencing the one time out of 10 that it did work in order to justify your choices.

[Guest RBates]

[quote name='UMDan' timestamp='1324281453' post='912793']

Exactly. It's an unfortunate trend. We cannot come from behind because we abandon the ground game (which is understandable) and Joe looked terrible when we had to throw. [b]We need to address these issues about getting behind and how to continue to have a good balance [/b]when we do. We need to be able to catch up going into the playoffs.
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I have an idea-------- stop turning the ball over.