Joe Flacco Shows That He Is A Rookie!

[Marc2k6]

Well Flacco today did show he is a rookie. Can Flacco pass to anyone other than D. Mason? Boller had Heap and now Flacco has Mason or is it just me. I think Flacco has gotten a little bit ahead of himself with the rolling out and throwing the ball. I'm not going to say it was the total reason we lost but it was big. That last one there was not even anyone open. Flacco has to learn to throw away the ball. Right now I think he needs to see the field a lot more because he is not seeing it!

[Eurich]

Same old **** is all I can say.

Defense holds teams to 13 points and we lose.

[ravensalways]

People are really overhyping joe flacco.

[Ravens52]

You guys overreact too much. He'll rebound no doubt. Remember Matt Ryan's first game where he played awful? He rebounded and is playing great football

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='Eurich' post='72808' date='Oct 5 2008, 04:28 PM']Same old **** is all I can say.

Defense holds teams to 13 points and we lose.[/quote]

Well, the D SHOULD have held them to 6 and we would have won the game... that last drive was pathetic and shows that our D can't keep it in gear for 4 quarters yet. It probably has something to do with the fact that they haven't had to play in the 4th quarter that much thus far. It sure showed today.

[Marc2k6]

No one is over hyping Flacco and it is not the same old Raven's either. With alittle more time and maybe a good WR(deep threat) in the draft it will change for the better.

[nevermore621]

Yeah, but I think we already knew that, and so is Troy Smith, for that matter. At this point I still think Joe Flacco gives us the best chance to win, and is playing very well under pressure. Things will open up when we play less capable defenses like Oakland, Cleveland, Cincy and Houston. Indy has not been putting teams away this year either.

I still think our failure to establish a consistent running attack is the weak link that is costing us in these close games. McGahee is not getting it done, but LeRon McClain is, so I say ride him like Zorro.

[ravens]

now when smith is ready again, give him a chance

[bossman419]

see all the nay sayers crawled up from thier holes to bad mouth flacco. come on people hes a rookie, what other choice do we have. todd bowman or troy smith. ill take my chances with flacco

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Marc2k6' post='72804' date='Oct 5 2008, 04:27 PM']Can Flacco pass to anyone other than D. Mason?[/quote]

Today's receiving stats:

Todd Heap - 4 catches, 41 yards
Derrick Mason - 5 catches, 38 yards
Mark Clayton - 4 catches, 37 yards
Demetrius Williams - 1 catch, 22 yards
LeRon McClain - 2 catches, 12 yards
Willis McGahee - 1 catch, 2 yards
Daniel Wilcox - 1 catch, 1 yard

That's seven different receivers, three other than Mason with multiple catches. Clayton and Heap had about the same number of catches & yardage as Mason.

So it's not like Flacco is throwing JUST to Derrick Mason...

[neepo13]

[quote name='Eurich' post='72808' date='Oct 5 2008, 04:28 PM']Same old **** is all I can say.

Defense holds teams to 13 points and we lose.[/quote]

Holding to 6 would have been better. The defense had a lead late. They gave it up. Cant put that on Flacco.

[neepo13]

[quote name='bossman419' post='72875' date='Oct 5 2008, 04:47 PM']see all the nay sayers crawled up from thier holes to bad mouth flacco. [b]come on people hes a rookie[/b], what other choice do we have. todd bowman or troy smith. ill take my chances with flacco[/quote]

We are not allowed to say that about him. Because Troy Smith played so well in his rookie year, Flacco should throw a TD everytime he drops back to pass.

Another time when a sarcasm smiley would be great.

[Ravnet]

Like Franchise said, the ball was spread around today.

What does it take to convince you guys that a rookie going into his first season will take his lumps, regardless.

Additionally, we don't even have a made up quarterback contreversy. There is not another legitimate quarterback on the Ravens roster.

[z_keeper]

[quote name='Ravnet' post='72903' date='Oct 5 2008, 03:57 PM']Like Franchise said, the ball was spread around today.

What does it take to convince you guys that a rookie going into his first season will take his lumps, regardless.

Additionally, we don't even have a made up quarterback contreversy. There is not another legitimate quarterback on the Ravens roster.[/quote]


Well put.

Face it, he played a heck of a game against a very good defense.

[tweety]

Is it time to panic an scream for a QB change? Would a new starter be positive or would it cause frustration?

[Ravnet]

Let me spell it out for you guys. Here is the difference between this year and years past. We never had a future from 1996-2007. McNair was supposed to be a quick fix and he couldn't even do that. Boller was the epitome of a failed project, from his very first snap he looked erratic and we pretty much knew he wasn't going to amount to anything. I could go through Grbac, Banks, Dilfer, etc. Flacco showed more promise in his first game than any other quarterback has demonstrated.

[Eurich]

If we lose to the Colts and whoever we play after that I would support a change.

YOU KNOW WHO ELSE SHOWED PROMISE?

Ryan Leaf 2-0.

[samic]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' post='72833' date='Oct 5 2008, 04:35 PM']Well, the D SHOULD have held them to 6 and we would have won the game... that last drive was pathetic and shows that our D can't keep it in gear for 4 quarters yet. It probably has something to do with the fact that they haven't had to play in the 4th quarter that much thus far. It sure showed today.[/quote]

you can't blame this one solely on the D. they played strong throughout three quarters giving the ball back to our offense when they couldn't drive down the field. we have a lot of failed drives on offense and flacco just killed us again with those stupid decisions. it really reminded me of boller. he would play decent for a while and just make some bonehead decision that costs us the game. we had several drives that should have lead to points but didn't and we got the ball back in time to make something out of it... maybe at least send it into overtime and we turn the ball over!!! you can't blame this one on the D.

[samic]

[quote name='bossman419' post='72875' date='Oct 5 2008, 04:47 PM']see all the nay sayers crawled up from thier holes to bad mouth flacco. come on people hes a rookie, what other choice do we have. todd bowman or troy smith. ill take my chances with flacco[/quote]
at the beginning of the season troy was technically a rookie as well so please don't use that excuse. it's lame. he made some awful plays. take it like a man.

[Perfekt]

troy smith basically is a rookie as well so i cant understand why its ok to take the chances with flacco but not take the chance with smith. oh yea thats right because hes to much like a rb and not a qb. im sick of the bs with some of yall. im not saying your racist but i cant understand why some of yall have such a huge problem with smith. as i recall he was winning the starting spot and as i recall he did play last season with almost the same issues as flacco just thrown into the mix due to injurys. dont take this as me going against flacco because i support him and think hes going to be great in the future but smith is also on this team and yall treat him like boller who proved just how efficent he was.i love my team win or lose and hes on this team so stop with the bs comments about the man. he almost died and is working hard to try and come back and play and help this team win. hes not concerned about starting just about the welfare of this team so next time before you go and start to make stupid comments towards him atleast consider the stats and the type of person he is.

[M.E.S]

[quote name='Perfekt' post='72923' date='Oct 5 2008, 05:06 PM']troy smith basically is a rookie as well so i cant understand why its ok to take the chances with flacco but not take the chance with smith. oh yea thats right because hes to much like a rb and not a qb. im sick of the bs with some of yall. im not saying your racist but i cant understand why some of yall have such a huge problem with smith. as i recall he was winning the starting spot and as i recall he did play last season with almost the same issues as flacco just thrown into the mix due to injurys. dont take this as me going against flacco because i support him and think hes going to be great in the future but smith is also on this team and yall treat him like boller who proved just how efficent he was.i love my team win or lose and hes on this team so stop with the bs comments about the man. he almost died and is working hard to try and come back and play and help this team win. hes not concerned about starting just about the welfare of this team so next time before you go and start to make stupid comments towards him atleast consider the stats and the type of person he is.[/quote]
that's all i am trying to say.. but they don't want to hear it on this board.. they are so bias towards flacco that it blinds them

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='tweety' post='72908' date='Oct 5 2008, 05:00 PM']Is it time to panic an scream for a QB change? Would a new starter be positive or would it cause frustration?[/quote]

We've got to stick it out at this point. If the coaching staff isn't happy with how Joe looks in practice then maybe a change could be in order, but I want to stick with Flacco and ride him to the end, win or lose... He IS the future, now Ozzie and crew MUST get him a WR to whom he can throw the ball DEEEEEEP for a change. I saw 2 passes over 15 yards today... that won't cut it in this league.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Perfekt' post='72923' date='Oct 5 2008, 05:06 PM']troy smith basically is a rookie as well so i cant understand why its ok to take the chances with flacco but not take the chance with smith. oh yea thats right because hes to much like a rb and not a qb. im sick of the bs with some of yall. im not saying your racist but i cant understand why some of yall have such a huge problem with smith. as i recall he was winning the starting spot and as i recall he did play last season with almost the same issues as flacco just thrown into the mix due to injurys. dont take this as me going against flacco because i support him and think hes going to be great in the future but smith is also on this team and yall treat him like boller who proved just how efficent he was.i love my team win or lose and hes on this team so stop with the bs comments about the man. he almost died and is working hard to try and come back and play and help this team win. hes not concerned about starting just about the welfare of this team so next time before you go and start to make stupid comments towards him atleast consider the stats and the type of person he is.[/quote]

Its really simple actually. If you are going to take the chances with a rookie QB, it should be the guy that you drafted [b]18th overall[/b] and not the guy drafted damn near in the [b]6th round[/b]. It should be the guy that you are paying [b]30 million dollars[/b] not the guy whose contract is worth less then [b]1 million[/b]. Also, you dont bench a rookie QB in favor of another rookie QB. That makes no sense what so ever.

[M.E.S]

the coaches at least see where i am coming from


source: [url="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.steele05oct05,0,5596094.column"]http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/footbal...,5596094.column[/url]

John Harbaugh talked last week about balancing Flacco's need to grow into the job with the Ravens' need to win - then, without being prompted, he blended Troy Smith into the equation, saying he's going to play and contribute eventually, "to what capacity, I think events will determine."

"I'm not sure if I want to box myself in," Harbaugh continued, "but no, we haven't said, 'Hey, we're going to develop Joe at the expense of winning, for sure.' And winning is the No.1 priority, but developing Joe is a priority. Developing Troy is a priority."

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='M.E.S' post='72931' date='Oct 5 2008, 05:10 PM']that's all i am trying to say.. but they don't want to hear it on this board.. they are so bias towards flacco that it blinds them[/quote]

For the record, it was only two months ago that people were saying, "Give Troy Smith a chance." Rewind to April, and there was a STRONG majority that didn't agree with the selection of Joe Flacco, and wanted Troy Smith to start.

Smith had his chance in the preseason, and then it got taken away from him for reasons beyond his control. Flacco came in, and made the most of his opportunities. If the coaching staff didn't think he was ready, they could've easily started Todd Bouman instead.

To flip-flop after just TWO losses, and only ONE truly bad game, is giving up.

It's a 16-game season. We're done 4. There's still a lot of football left to play. Please drop the "Flacco bias" act.

[Eurich]

Troy lost his job because he was playing poorly in right?

Flacco has played poorly.

I want Troy Smith especially if Flacco plays crappy again.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Eurich' post='72950' date='Oct 5 2008, 05:18 PM']Troy lost his job because he was playing poorly in right?

Flacco has played poorly.

I want Troy Smith especially if Flacco plays crappy again.[/quote]

The job was never his. When did Harbaugh name Troy Smith the starter? Please show me a quote or a sound bit where he says Troy Smith is our starter for the season.

[Perfekt]

neepo you didnt understand what i wrote you just read what you wanted to. i was not saying to start smith i said im sick of all the bs hate on him. im not trying to sound like an ****** but you made yourself look like one.

[Eurich]

[quote name='neepo13' post='72958' date='Oct 5 2008, 02:23 PM']The job was never his. When did Harbaugh name Troy Smith the starter? Please show me a quote or a sound bit where he says Troy Smith is our starter for the season.[/quote]
He never directly said it but it was between him and Boller if I'm not correct (I am correct).

Boller goes down for season.

Connect the dots from here on out.

[RavensMan]

Im tired of everyone babying Flacco. Using the "rookie" excuse. The man made a mistake and it is HIS fault. Don't blame this game on our defense for a one bad drive. Our defense kept the Titans on their heels the whole game and they have one bad drive and we blame the game on them? That's not fair at all it's nobodies fault but Joe Flacco. Yes he's a rookie but he isn't a baby so stop trying to defend him when he makes a mistake. Every quaterback makes mistakes (some mistakes bigger than others) but Flacco made a big mistake and it's his fault we loss. Don't get me wrong, I still like Flacco and think he's a good quaterback but he made a mistake and I think he should pay the price for it, instead of throwing the whole loss on our defense thats just selfish