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Jimmy is going to be a lockdown star on this team. He might be the 2nd coming of CMac. Not as mean and hopefully he will last a little longer. He didn't give up a deep shot today. We don't have many weak spots on the D. Jimmy Smith as your nickel back is really good.
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Jimmy was looking very solid today. Assuming this wasn't a fluke, after all we were playing the Colts, he's farther along in his development than I originally thought.
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Jimmy will do nothing but improve and get better each time he is on the field. there is NOTHING like in-game experience.

~Mili
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I've been pretty vocal in my support of the Jimmy, before he was even a Raven haha ... but it was the Colts!
Then again, those are some good recievers he went up against.
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He is an elite level talent for sure, his cover skills are awesome...its just those mental lapses he has to get past

didnt have any this week which is good, maybe he's learning
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Jimmy was really impressive today in coverage. And it was nice seeing Webb in on a few blitz from nickel.

I had a feeling all game that Jimmy would get int #3 if Orlowsky tested him a few more times..... Jimmy would have got that INT that C.Brown fell down on.
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Smith has certainly been improving, Williams has played well and Webb has turned into a stud. Remember how worried we were at CB at the beginning of the year?
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Not here to criticize at all, Jimmy is getting better each week and is playing well. Maybe its because he's a rookie or doesn't want to get beat, but i'm just wondering why Jimmy is playing off the wide receiver as often as he does. He did play some good press coverage today but i saw him play a lot off the receiver, and with his size and skills, i just feel like he should be a bump and run kind of guy. We see how much asamough has struggled in philadelphia this year because he is being put more into zone situations when he is a lockdown bump and run guy. Again not criticizing because our secondary is playing so well and Jimmy is really progressing, i'm just wondering if anyone else thinks Jimmy is playing off the receiver too often as well?
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And between Carr and Foxworth, you'd think we'd be hurting even more at the CB position. But Williams turned out to be a great surprise and Webb has returned to his 2009 form.

Jimmy Smith has been playing good with the role he's been given. He's been showing flashes of brilliance so far, but also he's still showing the rookie mistakes. Give him an off-season with a full training camp and he looks like he could be an absolute beast.
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Remember, too, Jimmy, Torrey, Pernelle, Chykie, Tandon, Jah, all were playing with a very, very short offseason under their belts. They had less time to prepare than any rookie in the history of the Ravens' franchise. Next year, with a full season[i] and[/i] offseason under their belts, that's what I'm waiting for. I don't expect sophomore slumps for any of these guys.
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[quote name='colljb9' timestamp='1323656055' post='903887']
Not here to criticize at all, Jimmy is getting better each week and is playing well. Maybe its because he's a rookie or doesn't want to get beat, but i'm just wondering why Jimmy is playing off the wide receiver as often as he does. He did play some good press coverage today but i saw him play a lot off the receiver, and with his size and skills, i just feel like he should be a bump and run kind of guy. We see how much asamough has struggled in philadelphia this year because he is being put more into zone situations when he is a lockdown bump and run guy. Again not criticizing because our secondary is playing so well and Jimmy is really progressing, i'm just wondering if anyone else thinks Jimmy is playing off the receiver too often as well?
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Ita by design, for whatever reason. All our corners do that and have been for a few years
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Jimmy's press coverage was really good today, and he seems to get more confident week in and week out. Hopefully he'll be ready to help against some of the big, athletic WRs we have down the stretch, and guys we'll certainly play in the postseason.
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[quote name='colljb9' timestamp='1323656055' post='903887']
Not here to criticize at all, Jimmy is getting better each week and is playing well. Maybe its because he's a rookie or doesn't want to get beat, but i'm just wondering why Jimmy is playing off the wide receiver as often as he does. He did play some good press coverage today but i saw him play a lot off the receiver, and with his size and skills, i just feel like he should be a bump and run kind of guy. We see how much asamough has struggled in philadelphia this year because he is being put more into zone situations when he is a lockdown bump and run guy. Again not criticizing because our secondary is playing so well and Jimmy is really progressing, i'm just wondering if anyone else thinks Jimmy is playing off the receiver too often as well?
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That might be scheme. It seems that Jimmy is more comfortable in bump and run. He is used to using his size and strength to overwhelm the opposition but against these crafty vets he is going to have to be able to mix it up some. So Chuck may be helping him develop those extra tools to make him deft at all types of coverage. It's just a theory on my part. For all I know, Jimmy decided to play off.
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[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1323645056' post='903596']
he was actually playin Left corner, Cary Right Corner, Webb nickle, im not sure who was on the field in a 2 CB formation
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I'm not 100% certain, but I think most snaps with 2 CBs has Webb and Williams on the field. In sub packages Webb slides over to the slot.
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Call me crazy but I would really feel more comfortable if Chris Carr went to the IR regardless of how significant the injury is. I know that you can never have enough quality depth at the corner position, but Carr seems to be hurting us when he has been playing even more than when he is not in the lineup. He plays too soft and gets beat on too many plays. With the emergence of Cary Williams, Webb playing at a Pro-Bowl caliber level, Jimmy Smith coming into his own, and Guys like Danny Gorrer(love the way he plays) stepping up, Carr really isn't needed IMO.
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[quote name='Tyler' timestamp='1323665407' post='904083']
Call me crazy but I would really feel more comfortable if Chris Carr went to the IR regardless of how significant the injury is. I know that you can never have enough quality depth at the corner position, but Carr seems to be hurting us when he has been playing even more than when he is not in the lineup. He plays too soft and gets beat on too many plays. With the emergence of Cary Williams, Webb playing at a Pro-Bowl caliber level, Jimmy Smith coming into his own, and Guys like Danny Gorrer(love the way he plays) stepping up, Carr really isn't needed IMO.
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I honestly don't think you need to worry about Carr seeing the field this year.
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Well, he was projected to be a top 10 player based purely on talent, but off the field issues put a huge dent in his stock, if I recall correctly.

When will the rest of the NFL learn? Just figure out who the Ravens like and take them before the Ravens can. The Cowboys figured that out last year and look at how well Dez Bryant has worked out.
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Man his "off the field problems" were blown way out of proportion. He has been nothing but a class act since we drafted him. Media goes overboard sometimes. Sometimes they are the reason some players get drafted later.
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Yeah I slapped myself for being worried about his off the field issues when we first drafted him. Then I found out that was all during his freshmen year of college. And he has been great for us on and off the field. He seems like a genuinely nice guy. And as a player, he's just amazing. He could be the next C Mac. I too wondered why he played far off the receiver on a couple plays, but he never gave up a big play. And he was defending some of the best WR's in the league. And Suggs gave credit to the secondary for being able to get his sacks today. I couldn't be happier with our DB's.
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For the guy that's wondering why Jimmy plays far off sometime, I'm glad he is doing that now b/c we all know he is great playing press coverage so he needs to work on playing off coverage b/c sometimes the situation will present its self where it would be best that he does that or the scheme would require him to do it. Even Revis and Asmongha plays off and a CB wants to mix it up with playing off and press on the WR so the QB won't start predetermining how he would attack them. Press coverage equals attack with the back shoulder passes and bombs and off coverage gives up the slant, drag, possibly the hitch. When you play off coverage, you can jump more routes as far as picks as Jimmy showed against the Browns. Great mixture of both equals great CB for Jimmy.
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I remember an interview with Nnamdi Asomugha where he was talking about how you cover different guys different ways. Everyone knows Nnamdi as a press cover guy, and that's how he likes to play most of the time, but really it was just about guys in Oakland letting him lock down on a WR and do his thing. It's important to be able to play off a bit as well as to press. When you're playing a big strong guy (think Megatron) you might prefer to play back rather than get into a shoving match, whereas with a smaller guy (Wes Welker seems the archetype for this) you jam to throw off carefully timed routes.
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[quote name='D-Rey' timestamp='1323675075' post='904153']
Man his "off the field problems" were blown way out of proportion. He has been nothing but a class act since we drafted him. Media goes overboard sometimes. Sometimes they are the reason some players get drafted later.
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Well, that's why so many people put him on the Ravens, because they felt the structure of the Ravens defense would be conducive to preventing any more off the field incidents from happening.

But hey, the Ravens know how to pick pure talent out in the draft and work around any potential flaws.

Remember how Suggs was supposed to be a top 5 pick, but dropped to the Ravens at 10 because of worries over his 40 yard dash time? Well the Ravens realized that it's less than 40 yards to the quarterback.
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