Aaron Rodgers

[Gordo52]

Who can stop this guy?
How can you stop him?...
...Is he unstoppable? lol
His numbers are so impressive this year that its scary.

With 4 games to go his stats look like this....

287/407 70.5 completion % 3836 yards 37 passing TDs with just 5 INTS ad 2 rushing TDs with 2 fumbles(non lost) [Im lucky enough to have him in fantasy, traded vick for him ]
But really can any team in the NFL stop the packers?
Could the Ravens? I [personally would be terrified to play them in the superbowl.
Not trying to be a homer but I truely think the Ravens have the best D in the NFL. I also think we matchup good vs them. But we havent played an offense like them and they havent played a defense like ours.
I think only 3 teams in the NFC could compete with them and that being the Saints,49ers and Bears(w/ cutler & forte)
But I rather face any of those teams instead of the Pack

[frezeal33]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1323136938' post='897036']
Who can stop this guy?
How can you stop him?...
...Is he unstoppable? lol
His numbers are so impressive this year that its scary.

With 4 games to go his stats look like this....

287/407 70.5 completion % 3836 yards 37 passing TDs with just 5 INTS ad 2 rushing TDs with 2 fumbles(non lost) [Im lucky enough to have him in fantasy, traded vick for him [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png[/img] ]
But really can any team in the NFL stop the packers?
Could the Ravens? I [personally would be terrified to play them in the superbowl.
Not trying to be a homer but I truely think the Ravens have the best D in the NFL. I also think we matchup good vs them. But we havent played an offense like them and they havent played a defense like ours.
I think only 3 teams in the NFC could compete with them and that being the Saints,49ers and Bears(w/ cutler & forte)
But I rather face any of those teams instead of the Pack
[/quote]
These 'Perfect' Packers.. haven't proven to me that they are as good as everyone thinks. These guys have played hardly ANYONE thats good.. In my opinion.. If we played them.. I think we would win. These guys haven't gone up against the 49ers.. The Ravens.. The Saints (When they started doing good).. The Pats.. or even the Steelers. They haven't played any of the elite teams. Once they can beat some of them.. Then I might believe they're good.

[hawkprey]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323137198' post='897041']
These 'Perfect' Packers.. haven't proven to me that they are as good as everyone thinks. These guys have played hardly ANYONE thats good.. In my opinion.. If we played them.. I think we would win. These guys haven't gone up against the 49ers.. The Ravens.. The Saints (When they started doing good).. The Pats.. or even the Steelers. They haven't played any of the elite teams. Once they can beat some of them.. Then I might believe they're good.
[/quote]
The Saints have been good all season IMO, but that was a close game for the Pack. I know people are talking about the Pats going to the SB and proving to be a challenge but I don't think the Pats are an elite team (the best team they beat was Dallas in a squeaker). The Steelers can sling it offensively but since the Packers beat them last year already, and the Steelers D hasn't been getting many turnovers, I don't like the Steelers against them. The 49ers are good but they are limited on offense by their own QB and receivers. They won't be able to keep up with the Packers offense, especially since the 9ers have an average pass defense.

To me, if the Saints don't get them in the playoffs, we are the only team that can bring them down. I know people complain about Flacco's completion percentage (they like to complain), but if that's all they have, that's not bad. It would be a breath of fresh air to finally go up against a bad passing defense and if the Pack wants to try and spread out our D, they're leaving Rodgers in harm's way. As we saw with the Giants, only a team that can rush Rodgers has a shot, and we have the best pass rush in the league.

So us and the Saints are the Packers' biggest threat. And the Steelers are right behind.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323137198' post='897041']
These 'Perfect' Packers.. haven't proven to me that they are as good as everyone thinks. These guys have played hardly ANYONE thats good.. In my opinion.. If we played them.. I think we would win. These guys haven't gone up against the 49ers.. The Ravens.. The Saints (When they started doing good).. The Pats.. or even the Steelers. They haven't played any of the elite teams. Once they can beat some of them.. Then I might believe they're good.
[/quote]
Theyre the defending champs thats undefeated with a 18 game win streak. lol. And they beat the Saints week 1 in a shootout and basicalt the same steelers in the superbowl. this year they some good teams though. And theyve only trailed once I think which was last week

[frezeal33]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1323137728' post='897054']
The Saints have been good all season IMO, but that was a close game for the Pack. I know people are talking about the Pats going to the SB and proving to be a challenge but I don't think the Pats are an elite team (the best team they beat was Dallas in a squeaker). The Steelers can sling it offensively but since the Packers beat them last year already, and the Steelers D hasn't been getting many turnovers, I don't like the Steelers against them. The 49ers are good but they are limited on offense by their own QB and receivers. They won't be able to keep up with the Packers offense, especially since the 9ers have an average pass defense.

To me, if the Saints don't get them in the playoffs, we are the only team that can bring them down. I know people complain about Flacco's completion percentage (they like to complain), but if that's all they have, that's not bad. It would be a breath of fresh air to finally go up against a bad passing defense and if the Pack wants to try and spread out our D, they're leaving Rodgers in harm's way. As we saw with the Giants, only a team that can rush Rodgers has a shot, and we have the best pass rush in the league.

So us and the Saints are the Packers' biggest threat. And the Steelers are right behind.
[/quote]

I agree with all of that. But like they all say... "Anything can happen in the NFL".

[frezeal33]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1323137925' post='897056']
Theyre the defending champs thats undefeated with a 18 game win streak. lol. And they beat the Saints week 1 in a shootout and basicalt the same steelers in the superbowl. this year they some good teams though. And theyve only trailed once I think which was last week
[/quote]
Yes.. But this year they haven't played anyone good. So how do you know they are good? Beating the Vikings.. or the Struggling Lions.. or the Struggling Bears.. or the Panthers.. or the Struggling Giants.. or the Broncos.. or the Saints (Weren't good at the beginning of season when they played). Isn't really an accomplishment.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323140459' post='897106']
Yes.. But this year they haven't played anyone good. So how do you know they are good? Beating the Vikings.. or the Struggling Lions.. or the Struggling Bears.. or the Panthers.. or the Struggling Giants.. or the Broncos.. or the Saints (Weren't good at the beginning of season when they played). Isn't really an accomplishment.
[/quote]
Saints have always been good lol. All i'm saying non of them were close except the Giants. Who just beat the Patriots in New England

[Jamal]

The one thing I worried about him was that he never really had to have a last minute drive, and wouldn't know how he'd handle it.

Needless to say, Rodgers laughed at that, and showed that hes just unstoppable.

The scary part is, he is just now getting in his prime.

[frezeal33]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1323145630' post='897188']
Saints have always been good lol. All i'm saying non of them were close except the Giants. Who just beat the Patriots in New England
[/quote]
umm.. not really.. haha and You remember the game against the Chargers? The only reason they won was because Rivers threw an INT on the last drive when it was 35-42.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323148461' post='897228']
umm.. not really.. haha and You remember the game against the Chargers? The only reason they won was because Rivers threw an INT on the last drive when it was 35-42.
[/quote]
Fact is no one has beat them. Rodgers is on pace to break records. And I dont know if anyone could stop him

[frezeal33]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1323173226' post='897279']
Fact is no one has beat them. Rodgers is on pace to break records. And I dont know if anyone could stop him
[/quote]
All they've played is mediocre teams. Once they play a good team, they might lose. But they had almost the easiest schedule this year.

[BloodRaven]

We can beat him, it would take about 6 sacks and 10 hits though.

[Crabcakes&Football]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1323173226' post='897279']
Fact is no one has beat them. Rodgers is on pace to break records. And I dont know if anyone could stop him
[/quote]

True, but no team is unbeatable and no man is unstoppable. And that goes for any sport. I think the Saints could beat them and we could too.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='Crabcakes&Football' timestamp='1323215887' post='897928']

True, but no team is unbeatable and no man is unstoppable. And that goes for any sport. I think the Saints could beat them and we could too.
[/quote]
But how lol

[Crabcakes&Football]

[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1323222404' post='898011']
But how lol
[/quote]

Above my paygrade.

[ravens rule]

If they play the saints again I see them loosing cause Drew Brees runs his offense almost as good as Rodgers does plus they have a running game unlike the Packers but they don't really need one cause that #12 is on fire.Then its who ever flinches first cause you can't trust teams like the Giants and Chargers.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323140459' post='897106']
Yes.. But this year they haven't played anyone good. So how do you know they are good? Beating the Vikings.. or the Struggling Lions.. or the Struggling Bears.. or the Panthers.. or the Struggling Giants.. or the Broncos.. or the Saints (Weren't good at the beginning of season when they played). Isn't really an accomplishment.
[/quote]
How were the Saints not good? They scored 34 points in the season opener, which is higher than their season average. Yes, their defense gave up 42 points to the Packers. However, the Saints defense has also given up 800 combined passing yards in their last 2 contests. The Packers are 12-0. I think it's beyond silly to question whether they're a good team. We've lost to 3 struggling teams, and you'll likely agree that we're a serious contender. Yet the Packers win against struggling teams and that somehow makes them vulnerable.

[frezeal33]

[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1323224990' post='898045']
How were the Saints not good? They scored 34 points in the season opener, which is higher than their season average. Yes, their defense gave up 42 points to the Packers. However, the Saints defense has also given up 800 combined passing yards in their last 2 contests. The Packers are 12-0. I think it's beyond silly to question whether they're a good team. We've lost to 3 struggling teams, and you'll likely agree that we're a serious contender. Yet the Packers win against struggling teams and that somehow makes them vulnerable.
[/quote]
The Saints were not at the level they are now, at the beginning of the season. Never did i say they were a BAD team. No.. the Packers have barely played ANY serious contenders. These guys also have had so many games at home.

"You have to beat the man, before you can BE the man"- Michael Jordan. The Packers haven't beaten any of 'The Men'.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323228913' post='898098']
The Saints were not at the level they are now, at the beginning of the season. Never did i say they were a BAD team. No.. the Packers have barely played ANY serious contenders. These guys also have had so many games at home.

"You have to beat the man, before you can BE the man"- Michael Jordan. The Packers haven't beaten any of 'The Men'.
[/quote]
Except for 12 of them and a bunch last year when it counted!

[1/28/01]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323228913' post='898098']
The Saints were not at the level they are now, at the beginning of the season. Never did i say they were a BAD team. No.. the Packers have barely played ANY serious contenders. These guys also have had so many games at home.

"You have to beat the man, before you can BE the man"- Michael Jordan. The Packers haven't beaten any of 'The Men'.
[/quote]
They beat the Saints, Falcons, Bears (with Cutler), Chargers, Lions AND Giants. You are way wrong here!!

[frezeal33]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1323229337' post='898110']
They beat the Saints, Falcons, Bears (with Cutler), Chargers, Lions AND Giants. You are way wrong here!!
[/quote]
Saints- Weren't good when they played.
Falcons- an alright team.
Bears- been struggling all season.
Chargers- Really?.. These guys aren't good..
Lions- Struggling
Giants- Going downhill.

[frezeal33]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1323229226' post='898107']
Except for 12 of them and a bunch last year when it counted!
[/quote]
haven't played any good teams.. and Last year? Who brought that up?

[1/28/01]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323232516' post='898161']

Saints- Weren't good when they played.
Falcons- an alright team.
Bears- been struggling all season.
Chargers- Really?.. These guys aren't good..
Lions- Struggling
Giants- Going downhill.
[/quote]
Oh my lord....Saints weren't good week 1?

[1/28/01]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323232665' post='898165']

haven't played any good teams.. and Last year? Who brought that up?
[/quote]
I did...did that confuse you?

[The Black Bird]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323137198' post='897041']
These 'Perfect' Packers.. haven't proven to me that they are as good as everyone thinks. These guys have played hardly ANYONE thats good.. In my opinion.. If we played them.. I think we would win. These guys haven't gone up against the 49ers.. The Ravens.. The Saints (When they started doing good).. The Pats.. or even the Steelers. They haven't played any of the elite teams. Once they can beat some of them.. Then I might believe they're good.[/quote]I agree.. I been saying that all along. They haven't played no elite team all year besides the saints and that was the first game. To me I think they had one of the easiest schedule in the league especially for them being the champs.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='The Black Bird' timestamp='1323233512' post='898175']
I agree.. I been saying that all along. They haven't played no elite team all year besides the saints and that was the first game. To me I think they had one of the easiest schedule in the league especially for them being the champs.
[/quote]
Hey, freezy found a buddy....

Packers had the 13th hardest schedule based on SOS at the beginning of the year. Just for the record, Ravens had the 31st. Of course, this all changes when teams like San Fran do 180's and vice sersa, but just felt this was relevant here.

[JohnJohnson]

If we played them, they would have the edge. But we would have as good a chance as any team.

[lgcs27288]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1323229337' post='898110']
They beat the Saints, Falcons, Bears (with Cutler), Chargers, Lions AND Giants. You are way wrong here!!
[/quote]

What do these teams have in common?

Poor pass defense. Minus the Bears (no pun intended), but their offense isnt really good.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323228913' post='898098']
The Saints were not at the level they are now, at the beginning of the season. Never did i say they were a BAD team. No.. the Packers have barely played ANY serious contenders. These guys also have had so many games at home.

"You have to beat the man, before you can BE the man"- Michael Jordan. The Packers haven't beaten any of 'The Men'.
[/quote]
Not at what level? You're referring to the same Saints team that beat the Bears and Texans in the following weeks on their way to a 4-1 start? They hit somewhat of a slump in the middle of the season, not in the beginning. But no, they couldn't have lost to Green Bay because they were bested. They must've had an off game. You have to beat the man? They're the defending Super Bowl champions. It's impossible for them to be dethroned until the end of the Postseason. Yet their accolades are somehow unimpressive because they've yet to face the top tier contenders, such as the Steelers, who they've beaten for the Lomardi Trophy, and the Patriots, who've lost 3 straight Playoff games. There's no logic in your argument. Now, am I saying that they'll remain unbeaten and be only the second team in NFL history to compile a perfect season? Absolutely not. But questioning whether they're a solid team when they haven't lost a single contest is completely idiotic. They've also had 5 home games thus far. 5. Not exactly a significant number. I never thought it would be this hard to admit that a team is having success because they're actually good. Apparently it's all just in the alignment of the stars.

[Renediffie]

[quote name='frezeal33' timestamp='1323140459' post='897106']
Yes.. But this year they haven't played anyone good. So how do you know they are good? Beating the Vikings.. or the Struggling Lions.. or the Struggling Bears.. or the Panthers.. or the Struggling Giants.. or the Broncos.. or the Saints (Weren't good at the beginning of season when they played). Isn't really an accomplishment.
[/quote]

Nah.. Its not really an accomplishment to be on the way to the perfect season.. Not really an accomplisment to have the maybe best qb of all time in a single season. They may have played a lot of weak to average teams, but you know what? They beat them every time. How can you say they are not good? Lets see them actually loose a game before starting talk like that.