Predictions about McPhee

[ball hawkin 20]

Do you think he could make a run for DROY?

Do you think he could soon start over Redding?

Do you think he'll have 8 sacks by the end of the season?

Do you think he'll become a perennial pro-bowler in the future and the Ravens next big defensive player?

[codizzle]

No-doesnt havr the name to get droy
no- redding is still playing great..
no
and maybe

[The Raven]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1319390525' post='831168']
Do you think he could make a run for DROY?

Do you think he could soon start over Redding?

Do you think he'll have 8 sacks by the end of the season?

Do you think he'll become a perennial pro-bowler in the future and the Ravens next big defensive player?
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1. Probably not. McPhee has not had an immense impact on the team. If he steps it up, sure, possibly. But he just doesn't have the impact that typical DROY players have. Of course, I hope he does win it.

2. Not this season. I think he needs to add just a few pounds and become stronger against the run before he starts. Redding's contract is up this season, so I fully expext McPhee to start this season, but don't rule out Arthur Jones just yet. Jones is much better against the run. I thnk McPhee offers more for our defense though.

3. I think he can definitely can 8 sacks by the end of the season. He has 2 so far, and we have some weak teams the rest of the year so there is a strong possibility of that. After all, he got me 12 in Madden. [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.png[/img]

4. Too soon to tell, but the potential is there, and we've already seen glimpses of his great playmaking ability. I think he can be the next great Ravens defensive player.

Man, our dline is stacked for at least the next 5 years. Ngata, Cody, McPhee? That's great!

[Clutch Ravens]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1319390525' post='831168']
Do you think he could make a run for DROY?

Do you think he could soon start over Redding?

Do you think he'll have 8 sacks by the end of the season?

Do you think he'll become a perennial pro-bowler in the future and the Ravens next big defensive player?
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No - Von Miller has it wrapped up.

No - We rotate the two of them depending on the situation. Redding for Run D, McPhee for pass rushing. Don't fix what ain't broke.

Possibly - He could easily get 6 more sacks in the remaining games, but he could also get hurt/be unlucky/have a slump.

50/50 - Impossible to tell this early on in any rookie's career.

[ball hawkin 20]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1319392035' post='831185']

No - Von Miller has it wrapped up.

No - We rotate the two of them depending on the situation. Redding for Run D, McPhee for pass rushing. Don't fix what ain't broke.

Possibly - He could easily get 6 more sacks in the remaining games, but he could also get hurt/be unlucky/have a slump.

50/50 - Impossible to tell this early on in any rookie's career.
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Von Millers been getting benched

saw it on ESPN, whenever he rushes he opens a huge running lane. They're only keeping him out for passing downs

[The Raven]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1319392035' post='831185']

No - Von Miller has it wrapped up.

No - We rotate the two of them depending on the situation. Redding for Run D, McPhee for pass rushing. Don't fix what ain't broke.

Possibly - He could easily get 6 more sacks in the remaining games, but he could also get hurt/be unlucky/have a slump.

50/50 - Impossible to tell this early on in any rookie's career.
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1. Don't count out Aldon Smith. He's lighting it up in San Fran.

2. Actually, both Redding and McPhee are on the line for most passing downs.

3. He could could also just as easily get on a hot streak.

4. Agreed.

[The Raven]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1319392139' post='831187']

Von Millers been getting benched [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.png[/img]

saw it on ESPN, whenever he rushes he opens a huge running lane. They're only keeping him out for passing downs
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That's exactly what I thought would happen when he was drafted. I wouldn't have drafted him that early. He is [b]absolutely[/b] [b]atrocious [/b]against the run. The only thing he's good at is running around tackles and getting sacks.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1319392139' post='831187']

Von Millers been getting benched [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.png[/img]

saw it on ESPN, whenever he rushes he opens a huge running lane. [b]They're only keeping him out for passing downs[/b]
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I love McPhee but that's exactly how he's being used right now.

[colljb9]

[quote name='PWNEDbyDEANO' timestamp='1319397021' post='831227']

I love McPhee but that's exactly how he's being used right now.
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Mcphee was a 5th round pick who noone expected to even be in the conversation, Von Miller was a do it all #2 overall pick in the NFL Draft. To say that Mcphee is looking nearly as effective as the number 2 overall pick in the draft is right now just shows how much he means to the ravens. Dont think Mcphee has the name or will put up the numbers to win defensive player of the year but on our team he has a huge, immediate impact

[The King]

McPhee is not rushing the passer at close to the same level Von Miller does. Miller is a beast around the edge; the guy looks like a blur when he's going after the QB. However, McPhee does a better job holding down a lineman when we need him to. Miller will win DROY, almost certainly, for the same reason that Suggs was such a star his rookie year. He's only being asked to sack the QB.

[Crabcakes&Football]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1319390525' post='831168']
Do you think he could make a run for DROY? [b]Doubt it, someone like Von Miller will have better stats and will probably take it.[/b]

Do you think he could soon start over Redding? [b]I think he could, but Redding is still playing well.[/b]

Do you think he'll have 8 sacks by the end of the season? [b]Nah, 5 or 6 I think which is good for a 5th round rookie who sees 1/3 of the snaps.[/b]

Do you think he'll become a perennial pro-bowler in the future and the Ravens next big defensive player? [b]Possibly. We've found a gem that's for sure.[/b]
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[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='colljb9' timestamp='1319413477' post='831398']

Mcphee was a 5th round pick who noone expected to even be in the conversation, Von Miller was a do it all #2 overall pick in the NFL Draft. To say that Mcphee is looking nearly as effective as the number 2 overall pick in the draft is right now just shows how much he means to the ravens. Dont think Mcphee has the name or will put up the numbers to win defensive player of the year but on our team he has a huge, immediate impact
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Agreed that McPhee is doing very well for a fifth round draft pick but I wouldn't say that McPhee has been 'nearly as effective as Von Miller'. Yes Miller got benched because he was being gashed by the run but he already has 6 sacks and 2 FF. McPhee is excelling in the role that he's being asked to perform but Miller is asked to do a lot more.

Agreed with your last sentence.

[BmoreRavens732]

McPhee is def a huge steal n no he probably won't see droy nor dpoy but he helps our team out in a huge way n it's something we lacked last year n it's a powerful passrush n he's only a rookie...this guy could come in next year n have 12-15 sacks

[izvoodoo]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1319392035' post='831185']

No - Von Miller has it wrapped up.

No - We rotate the two of them depending on the situation. Redding for Run D, McPhee for pass rushing. Don't fix what ain't broke.

Possibly - He could easily get 6 more sacks in the remaining games, but he could also get hurt/be unlucky/have a slump.

50/50 - Impossible to tell this early on in any rookie's career.
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Truth be told, Aldon Smith>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Von Miller. He's on the field less, has more sacks, and gets pressure faster.

Aldon Smith is like the West Coast T-Sizzle.

[XxSizzleXx]

Trevor Pryce 2.0? He has exceptional burst off the line, if he can learn to excel against the run he will develop into a special player.

[Purple Nurple]

I predict that soon he will have a wallet that says "Bad Mother Trucker"[size=5]*[/size]

[size=2]*Pulp Fiction reference[/size]

[Guest RBates]

Honestly yes to all. If he keeps playing like this, and the coaches reward him with extra playing time, this guy has no ceiling. He is by far the most explosive player on our defense, and he is the true meaning of relentless. 8 sacks before seasons end is in the bag. Under the tutelage of Ray Lewis on how to take care of his body he could be the best player on the team in a few years. Not named Suggs or Haloti of course.

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1319392139' post='831187']

Von Millers been getting benched [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.png[/img]

saw it on ESPN, [b]whenever he rushes he opens a huge running lane[/b]. They're only keeping him out for passing downs
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i saw that segment as well.

that cat leaves HUGE running lanes open doesn't he? wow!

~Mili

[Tyler]

It isn't a surprise at all to me that Mcphee gets little to know public recognition. With that being said, I don't mind it at all and I actually like it. The thing I love about our defense is how it is built. Sure, you have the obvious Superstars like Lewis, Reed, Suggs, Ngata.... But you also have the Blue Collar, under the radar guys like Cary Williams, Webb, Mcclain, JJ, Cody, Mcphee, etc.. who IMO, are the true heroes that contribute and really complete that dominant defense. Look at the Eagles. Loaded With big name Superstar Defenders... How is that working out for them?

[ravensfan...mostly lewis]

Guy above me has it right, the beauty of Mcphee is he's our guy. Nobody outside of our organization may know anything about him, but we know what we have. Love the effort he brings, everybody loves a high motor/high character guy. I dont care what rookie awards he wins, even if he's a career 6-8 sack guy, he brings intangibles that we as fans of the team can appreciate that the stat people dont necessarily. He sort of reminds of Kyle Vanden bosch in that sense

[Clutch Ravens]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1319392035' post='831185']

[b]No - Von Miller has it wrapped up.[/b]

No - We rotate the two of them depending on the situation. Redding for Run D, McPhee for pass rushing. Don't fix what ain't broke.

Possibly - He could easily get 6 more sacks in the remaining games, but he could also get hurt/be unlucky/have a slump.

50/50 - Impossible to tell this early on in any rookie's career.
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I love how right I was months ago. Miller is DROY and making a big case for DPOY.

I don't like to pat myself on the back, but man, I'm awesome.

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1319390525' post='831168']
Do you think he could make a run for DROY?

Do you think he could soon start over Redding?

Do you think he'll have 8 sacks by the end of the season?

Do you think he'll become a perennial pro-bowler in the future and the Ravens next big defensive player?
[/quote]

1 No. That belongs to Von Miller by some distance.

2 Not this season, but when he does he won't be as fresh on passing downs so he won't be as effective getting to the QB.

3 No. He's not on pace for 8.

4 Yes.

[The King]

Von Miller has DRoY wrapped up at this point, and is making a strong case for being named DPoY. Not only is pressuring the QB better than anyone else in the league right now, he has also developed into a decent player against the run. However, McPhee has been one of the league's most efficient rushers, generating pressure whenever he's on the field and being limited only by the snaps he plays.

McPhee is not going to displace Cory Redding right now. Redding is a great leader on the field, and solid against both the run and pass. I can't help but think a non-vet wouldn't have made the kind of heads up play he did against the Steelers in the playoffs last year.

McPhee could very well find his way to 8 sacks by the end of the year. While he's not on pace for it right now, he's such a high motor and talented pass rusher that he could put up a couple two sack games, especially working against the right side of the Browns' O-line.

I very much think he has the potential to become the Ravens' next star pass rusher. He is a gem in the fifth round and another example of why Ozzie is one of the best GM's in football.

[The Raven]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1322853805' post='892516']

1 No. That belongs to Von Miller by some distance.

2 Not this season, but when he does he won't be as fresh on passing downs so he won't be as effective getting to the QB.

3 No. He's not on pace for 8.

4 Yes.
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To your:

2. That logic is flawed, Harrison, Suggs, Woodley, Allen, Ware, Matthews all start and find a way to get to the QB consistently.

3. At the time this was posted he was on track for 8 sacks. Don't know how likely it is that he gets 8 sacks, but as mentioned above McPhee has the motor and the talent to put up a multi sack game.

Whether he gets 8 sacks or not, he's given opposing quarterbacks plenty of pressure. I think the NFL should consider making QB hurries/hits an official stat.

[BenDufusberger]

I posted this link on the Suggs thread , but some here may not have seen the update on McPhee that was posted yesterday in the comment section at the end of the article :

[url="http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/11/30/pass-rushing-productivity-the-story-so-far/"]http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2011/11/30/pass-rushing-productivity-the-story-so-far/[/url]

Bottom line is that McPhee would rate #2 in pass rushing productivity among interior defensive linemen , behind only Antonio Smith of Houston.

[CapoRocky]

He has really shown that no matter where you are drafted you still can make an impact on a team with hard work.

[blitzking33]

[quote name='CapoRocky' timestamp='1322861022' post='892631']
He has really shown that no matter where you are drafted you still can make an impact on a team with hard work.
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Yup. As long as you are hungry to succeed, you can make it anywhere in life regardless of where you came from and how you got there.

[ball hawkin 20]

why'd this thread get revived? lol it was long dead

[Gordo52]

I say in 2 years after McPhee gets more expierence, learns more and gets a little stronger he could be our dwight freeny. Very excited about him

[BMORElegacy]

I find it funny that he's developed into a pass rusher because Oz drafted him as a pure run stopper.