Ravens Practice Squad Losses

[Natty Boh]

G/C Bryan Mattison signed off the Ravens practice squad by the Rams

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OT Austin Howard signed off the Ravens practice squad by the Jets.

[url="http://www.ganggreennation.com/2011/11/25/2586170/jets-sign-ot-austin-howard-to-53-man-roster"]http://www.ganggreen...o-53-man-roster[/url]



I know it's not true but it feels like our practice squad is the minor league team for the rest of the NFL.

[sflegend89]

Don't care about mattison, was only here cause of his dad last year. I can't believe we even got Bynes back after not PS'ing him. I swear that guy could start for a few NFL teams and he wasn't even on anyone's roster! How did nobody pounce on that guy, he obviously has all the intangibles and a great nose for the ball. I think 31 teams dropped the ball on Bynes. He's great depth and future potential. Remember Jameel McClain and Bart Scott were undrafted FA too. Who knows..

[Dfence4champs2052]

Yeah the other teams watch our cuts and waiver wire pretty closely thanks to Ozzie.

[marylandmike12]

Wow peple, like ozzies pick

[ball hawkin 20]

Well with Bryant Mattison, both of the Rams LT/RT are on IR. I feel really bad for Bradford, and the Rams are my #2 team

[Grapple Raven]

With what happened against the Seahawks with David R., kinda wish we had kept McCann for special teams. But I think McCann has been already picked up after we released him.

[BenDufusberger]

We've got some time before the next game , so put Cam on the practice squad for a few days. We might get lucky.

[wolfpack]

[quote name='BenDufusberger' timestamp='1322346294' post='887413']
We've got some time before the next game , so put Cam on the practice squad for a few days. We might get lucky.
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Great idea! Could be put David Reed down there to? At least until he learns how to play special teams, just hold onto the ball, and don't get distracted by people calling fair catches

[CapoRocky]

I think that we have the right stuff to win this season. It's nice to know that there are some young players waiting for a call on the practice squad, but they don't really think that they will make the roster unless someone goes down with a serious injury. They just need to learn, practice, and hope that they improve enough to catch someone's eye next summer.

[Purple Punishment]

I just want us to keep Damien Berry!

[The Raven]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1322267839' post='886815']
Don't care about mattison, was only here cause of his dad last year. I can't believe we even got Bynes back after not PS'ing him. I swear that guy could start for a few NFL teams and he wasn't even on anyone's roster! How did nobody pounce on that guy, he obviously has all the intangibles and a great nose for the ball. I think 31 teams dropped the ball on Bynes. He's great depth and future potential. Remember Jameel McClain and Bart Scott were undrafted FA too. Who knows..
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If he could start for other teams he probably would have............ He's nowhere near as good as you say. I agree that he's a good young LB but he's not great. He does have a good nose for the ball though. Hope to see him next year. I'm glad to say he's on the active roster right now, and was active on Thursday. Coaches must like him.

[sflegend89]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1322413875' post='887880']

If he could start for other teams he probably would have............ He's nowhere near as good as you say. I agree that he's a good young LB but he's not great. He does have a good nose for the ball though. Hope to see him next year. I'm glad to say he's on the active roster right now, and was active on Thursday. Coaches must like him.
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I'm being dead serious when i say he could start for a few teams and be productive. Been following this kid since his Auburn days. James Harrison also was cut by us and spent nearly a whole year not on anyone's roster, I mean there's plenty of examples of good players not getting a shot from anyone, it happens. Sometimes good players just don't have anyone who believes in them at the next level. What I think hurts Bynes is he's a "Game Day" player. Which basically means when it's time to play a game he kicks it into high gear, but in practice he doesn't have that raw adrenaline he needs to elevate his game. I guess he's more of an emotional player, he plays to how he feels. I think the Ravens coaching staff started to catch onto that about Bynes at the end of pre-season and it maybe turned them off a little. They thought a guy like McClellan would work harder in practice and get better so they gave him the nod despite Bynes in game performances. I feel like this is the case because if Bynes played like that in practice I have no doubt he would've made the active 53 from the start.

Plus undrafted LB's seem to have a much better track record at becoming successful (especially with us) than any other position. Most of it has to do with Ray/others who teaches these young lb's the game inside and out. A lot of Jameel McClain's success can be attributed to ray Lewis mentoring him as a youngin. I really like Bynes future in Bmore. Put the dude on kickoff and let him hunt. His nose for the ball is easily his best trait so far as a player.

[BloodRaven]

A shame about Howard, he's a high potential guy.

[Natty Boh]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1322443009' post='888348']
A shame about Howard, he's a high potential guy.
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No surprise in Rex Ryan wanting another guy in the Ravens organization.

[The Raven]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1322442089' post='888327']

I'm being dead serious when i say he could start for a few teams and be productive. Been following this kid since his Auburn days. James Harrison also was cut by us and spent nearly a whole year not on anyone's roster, I mean there's plenty of examples of good players not getting a shot from anyone, it happens. Sometimes good players just don't have anyone who believes in them at the next level. What I think hurts Bynes is he's a "Game Day" player. Which basically means when it's time to play a game he kicks it into high gear, but in practice he doesn't have that raw adrenaline he needs to elevate his game. I guess he's more of an emotional player, he plays to how he feels. I think the Ravens coaching staff started to catch onto that about Bynes at the end of pre-season and it maybe turned them off a little. They thought a guy like McClellan would work harder in practice and get better so they gave him the nod despite Bynes in game performances. I feel like this is the case because if Bynes played like that in practice I have no doubt he would've made the active 53 from the start.

[b]Plus undrafted LB's seem to have a much better track record at becoming successful (especially with us) than any other position.[/b] Most of it has to do with Ray/others who teaches these young lb's the game inside and out. A lot of Jameel McClain's success can be attributed to ray Lewis mentoring him as a youngin. I really like Bynes future in Bmore. Put the dude on kickoff and let him hunt. His nose for the ball is easily his best trait so far as a player.
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And I'm being dead serious when I say if he was anywhere close to that good he would have been picked up. If he was so good at Auburn, why was he undrafted? If he had such a good preseason, why did he not get signed by another team? He didn't even get practice squadded by another team. Yeah, he's so good.

To your point about James Harrison, he was cut because at the time he sucked, and he was a total immature, arrogant, egotistical, nutjob. He pulled it together and developed into a good player. It's not like the Steelers signed him and he became a star. Most people didn't even know who the heck he was until he was like 29 or so.

Also, to your point about UDFA LBs, that has less to do with mentors, and more to do with the fact that LBs really have one job, and that's to make tackles. That's why UDFA LBs have so much more success than other players. All they do is tackle. It's a simple job.


Bynes had a good preseason. He has a ton of potential. But he didn't have close to the preseason that you among others suggest. All this being said, I would have rathered cut Ayanbadejo and kept Bynes on the 53 man roster. Call me crazy, but I think a 34 year old special teamer is expendable.

[wolfpack]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1322443518' post='888366']

Bynes had a good preseason. He has a ton of potential. But he didn't have close to the preseason that you among others suggest. All this being said,[b] I would have rathered cut Ayanbadejo and kept Bynes on the 53 man roster. Call me crazy, but I think a 34 year old special teamer is expendable.[/b]
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Don't overrate special teamers, just look what happend to the Chargers when they let go of Kassim Osgood. But i still agree with cutting Ayanbadejo and making room for someone like Bynes. Because of the age difference

[The Raven]

[quote name='wolfpack' timestamp='1322443791' post='888379']
Don't overrate special teamers, just look what happend to the Chargers when they let go of Kassim Osgood. But i still agree with cutting Ayanbadejo and making room for someone like Bynes. Because of the age difference
[/quote]

I'm not really overrating him, I just think he's replaceable.

[sflegend89]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1322443518' post='888366']

And I'm being dead serious when I say if he was anywhere close to that good he would have been picked up. If he was so good at Auburn, why was he undrafted? If he had such a good preseason, why did he not get signed by another team? He didn't even get practice squadded by another team. Yeah, he's so good.

To your point about James Harrison, he was cut because at the time he sucked, and he was a total immature, arrogant, egotistical, nutjob. He pulled it together and developed into a good player. It's not like the Steelers signed him and he became a star. Most people didn't even know who the heck he was until he was like 29 or so.

[u][b]Also, to your point about UDFA LBs, that has less to do with mentors, and more to do with the fact that LBs really have one job, and that's to make tackles. That's why UDFA LBs have so much more success than other players. All they do is tackle. It's a simple job.[/b][/u]


Bynes had a good preseason. He has a ton of potential. But he didn't have close to the preseason that you among others suggest. All this being said, I would have rathered cut Ayanbadejo and kept Bynes on the 53 man roster. Call me crazy, but I think a 34 year old special teamer is expendable.
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[The Raven]

[quote name='sflegend89' timestamp='1322468406' post='889041']


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Okay. I exaggerated a bit. But the reason that linebackers fall in drafts and go undrafted is because their skill set is not as demanding as say a quarterback's. That's why you don't see linebackers go in the first round, or even second very often. I have read draft articles, and have heard draft experts say the same thing. Linebackers have a [u]relatively[/u] simple skill set. Run, hit, and make tackles. That's why they have so much more [u]relative[/u] success than other positions.

[Suggs Package]

Another name that was picked up a couple of weeks ago was Ryan Mahaffey. I was a big fan of his during the preseason, but he was signed by the Colts, and has had a big impact in last week's game vs the Panthers.

Even Peter King is raving about him now. [url="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/11/27/week.12/4.html"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/11/27/week.12/4.html[/url]

Too bad we didn't have room for him, but I'm glad he's getting playing time somewhere.

[D-Rey]

[quote name='Suggs Package' timestamp='1322604710' post='890384']
Another name that was picked up a couple of weeks ago was Ryan Mahaffey. I was a big fan of his during the preseason, but he was signed by the Colts, and has had a big impact in last week's game vs the Panthers.

Even Peter King is raving about him now [url="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/11/27/week.12/4.html."]http://sportsillustr...week.12/4.html.[/url]

Too bad we didn't have room for him, but I'm glad he's getting playing time somewhere.
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That link doesnt work. BTW Mattison impressed me this year, sad to see him go. Did of good job of converting from the Dline to the oline.

[sflegend89]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1322520414' post='889576']

Okay. I exaggerated a bit. But the reason that linebackers fall in drafts and go undrafted is because their skill set is not as demanding as say a quarterback's. That's why you don't see linebackers go in the first round, or even second very often. I have read draft articles, and have heard draft experts say the same thing. Linebackers have a [u]relatively[/u] simple skill set. Run, hit, and make tackles. That's why they have so much more [u]relative[/u] success than other positions.
[/quote]


I see where your coming from man, no worries. just having a little fun

[BenDufusberger]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1322443518' post='888366']

Call me crazy, but I think a 34 year old special teamer is expendable.
[/quote]

I agree , and I'd bet the Ravens do too.

Ayanbadejo lucked out by turning 35 in September.

[Suggs Package]

[quote name='D-Rey' timestamp='1322607866' post='890429']
That link doesnt work. BTW Mattison impressed me this year, sad to see him go. Did of good job of converting from the Dline to the oline.
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My bad, it should work now. Here it is: [url="http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/11/27/week.12/4.html"]http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/11/27/week.12/4.html[/url]. You have to scroll down a bit to read about him.

[scrock]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1322445127' post='888437']

I'm not really overrating him, I just think he's replaceable.
[/quote]

you are mistaken....Brendan is a player, he's never been given a chance to play defense much and he's a Pro Bowl special teamer...and special teams is our weakness...so we NEED this guy

[The Raven]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1322675144' post='891010']

you are mistaken....Brendan is a player, he's never been given a chance to play defense much and he's a Pro Bowl special teamer...and special teams is our weakness...so we NEED this guy
[/quote]

Idk man, I saw one of those return TDs go right up his alley. I may be mistaken, but I'm fairly certain I saw a return TD in his lane.

He's never been given a chance? That's [i]bullcrap[/i], and you know it. He's been on this team how long? 3 years? I'm sure he's been given the chance, he's just not good enough on defense. There's a dang good reason we started McClellan, a 2nd year UDFA over him in Ray's absence. Yeah, he's a player alright!

By the way, when's the last time he actually made the probowl? Oh yeah, that was [b]2008[/b]. Right. He's a probowler just like Birk and Gurode, he [i]was[/i] a probowler [i]3 years ago[/i]. He didn't make it in 09, or 10.

[BenDufusberger]

I've always liked Brendan and he's been valuable in the role he's played for the Ravens the past few years , but you've got to forget all that once a player gets in that age range ( he's 35). The question must be : what's he doing for me right now , and what's he capable of doing for me in the future ? Then compare those answers to the answers you'd get for a younger , faster player you might have in mind to replace him. If those answers result in a tossup , you've got to go with younger and faster.

Heap , Mason , Hines Ward - all fell victim to this sort of analysis , and the correct decisions were made in all three cases , IMO.

Salary cap issues play a role , too , but can work both ways depending on the players involved.