The Overturned Touchdown

[K-Dog]

I am the only one willing to admit that it was indeed a touch down and it was a bad call ?

[ball hawkin 20]

it kinda was a td as much as i hate to say it

[1/28/01]

Weird rule, but technically the correct call.

[nyc9192]

Didn't see the game but from what i heard he didn't have control of the ball.

[tsizzle95]

right call, but i hate the stupid calvin johnson rule.. we got pretty lucky though

[Ravenslifer]

Bad call, but even the best teams need a lucky break once in a while.

[arnie_uk]

the refs actually had a good game toda, nothing glaringly bad, for either team, i hate that stupid megatron rule, i think thats a td for bengals, but by the rule its not... if they do that at the halfway line they always say the ball is allowed to hit the groud etc... why is it different in the EZ? or what am i not understanding

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1321831416' post='879136']
Bad call, but even the best teams need a lucky break once in a while.
[/quote]
Correct call, but even the Ravens get one called correctly against them every once in a while.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1321831428' post='879137']
the refs actually had a good game toda, nothing glaringly bad, for either team, i hate that stupid megatron rule, i think thats a td for bengals, but by the rule its not... if they do that at the halfway line they always say the ball is allowed to hit the groud etc... why is it different in the EZ? or what am i not understanding
[/quote]
Ground cannot cause a fumble, but can cause an incomplete pass. You have to maintain possession when taking the ball to the ground, and technically he did not.

[keebl3rs]

I thought he made the right call. The ball itself never broke the plane so the WR has to not only get both feet in, but control it after coming down to the ground with it. Not sure I like the rule either but hey.. worked out for us.

[redrum52]

Boldin or dickson I think had a catch like that(not for a td) that counted. I thought he had it. Which is why I said Cary is no Revis in another thread. I don't like the fact the team needed to be bailed out by refs we usually complain about screwing us. The team needs to learn to put the competition away when they have a significant lead and inferior teams... Cough Seahawks. If we give the Colts their first win I might kill myself to save the shame of having to show face in public.

[reediddy]

No, it was the right call. Calvin Johnson rule in full effect. Now, it's a bad rule in and of itself, but that's not up to argument. Fact is, Gresham didn't maintain control after the ball hit the ground. That's it, no catch.

[bdravens]

Just like Calvin Johnson's deal last year which pretty much defined this rule. I was sitting right along the goal line basically and since he didn't establish control with 2 feet in outside of the end zone, that rule applied.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='keebl3rs' timestamp='1321831607' post='879142']
I thought he made the right call. The ball itself never broke the plane so the WR has to not only get both feet in, but control it after coming down to the ground with it. Not sure I like the rule either but hey.. worked out for us.
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Ball broke the plane. That wasn't even in question. Its the fact he dropped the ball while taking it to the ground which is what made the call get reversed.

[Sir Spooky]

It should be a TD but by rule it's not. He didn't have possession til he was in the endzone and then that's when Calvin Johnson rule comes into effect.

[keebl3rs]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1321831725' post='879150']
Ball broke the plane. That wasn't even in question. Its the fact he dropped the ball while taking it to the ground which is what made the call get reversed.
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I thought the ball was to the left of the pylon and "out of bounds" when he got in, my mistake.

[arnie_uk]

is it actually called the calvin johson rule, if its not it should be, refs just say calvin johson rule over the mic then every one in the world understands why its not a TD lol

[1/28/01]

[quote name='keebl3rs' timestamp='1321831918' post='879156']


I thought the ball was to the left of the pylon and "out of bounds" when he got in, my mistake.
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All good...from my view and from what I heard, ball crossed the plane (doesn't matter anyway since he did establish both feet in bounds), but it was the fact that the ball was bobbled out of his hand slightly as he hit the ground. Correct call, but a bogus rule!

[ravensdfan]

[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1321831281' post='879130']
I am the only one willing to admit that it was indeed a touch down and it was a bad call ?
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The rule states: A receiver must maintain possession of the ball once making contact with the ground. He did not do that. There was one overturned in the SD/Bears game as well. Same thing. It is how the rule reads. Hate the rule but don't whine when the officials call it as it's written.

That said. I think it is a stupid rule the way it is being applied in some cases.

[keebl3rs]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1321832134' post='879163']
All good...from my view and from what I heard, ball crossed the plane (doesn't matter anyway since he did establish both feet in bounds), but it was the fact that the ball was bobbled out of his hand slightly as he hit the ground. Correct call, but a bogus rule!
[/quote]

Ya, that rule is kinda strange. Glad it worked out for us, but they should treat it like they do a run. Two feet in, ball crosses the plane.. TD.

[The Raven]

It's the right call, just a stupid rule. Really, really stupid rule.

I always thought that if the ball crossed the plane it was a touchdown.

[Ray Ray Ravens]

How about that call on the incompletion? I thought that was a fumble. That would have given us the ball anyway.

[D-Rey]

Bad rule, good call

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1321831471' post='879139']
Correct call, but even the Ravens get one called correctly against them every once in a while.
[/quote]

I didn't see any bobbling, but then I didn't stick around to watch the replays, lol. I turned the TV off!

[Free Agent]

The refs made the right call, but the rule is terrible.

[ravens__]

Like I said in the GDT... It was the right call but I'd be so upset if that were to happen on us.. One of those inexplicable rules that make everyone mad in the end.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='Ray Ray Ravens' timestamp='1321832357' post='879172']
How about that call on the incompletion? I thought that was a fumble. That would have given us the ball anyway.
[/quote]
this time agree with you, he may not have made a "football move" but he had the ball tucked under his arm and was in complete control and a thunderous hit from cary knocked it out... in my opinion, i was screaming for a challenge

[Ravenslifer]

Wait, so the rule is he has to be in complete possession of the ball AFTER he crosses the plane of the goal line? I mean it makes sense that he has to show possession if he's in the endzone and catches the ball, but the way I saw the throw he caught it, fell into the endzone and broke the plane of the goal-line, then as he hit the ground he lost possession. Shouldn't it already be a score if he's got it and crosses the goal line, regardless of what happens to the ball afterwards?

[JohnJohnson]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1321832709' post='879194']
Wait, so the rule is he has to be in complete possession of the ball AFTER he crosses the plane of the goal line? I mean it makes sense that he has to show possession if he's in the endzone and catches the ball, but the way I saw the throw he caught it, fell into the endzone and broke the plane of the goal-line, then as he hit the ground he lost possession. Shouldn't it already be a score if he's got it and crosses the goal line, regardless of what happens to the ball afterwards?
[/quote]

He didn't have possession until his second foot came down INSIDE the endzone, since he bobbled the ball.

[Ray Ray Ravens]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1321832709' post='879194']
Wait, so the rule is he has to be in complete possession of the ball AFTER he crosses the plane of the goal line? I mean it makes sense that he has to show possession if he's in the endzone and catches the ball, but the way I saw the throw he caught it, fell into the endzone and broke the plane of the goal-line, then as he hit the ground he lost possession. Shouldn't it already be a score if he's got it and crosses the goal line, regardless of what happens to the ball afterwards?
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He was bobbling it when he first caught the ball then gained possession then lost it to the ground.