Kurt Warner: What Ravens need to do offensively on TNF.

[HaX]

just said exactly what we need to do on offense on thursday night football LOL

[redrum52]

Just saw it too.. Glazer said exactly what fans have been saying.

[bpytnjr58]

[quote name='HaX' timestamp='1321572061' post='874830']
just said exactly what we need to do on offense on thursday night football LOL
[/quote]
And....What would that be???

[ball hawkin 20]

said what...

[Maryland1]

[quote name='HaX' timestamp='1321572061' post='874830']
just said exactly what we need to do on offense on thursday night football LOL
[/quote]

Which was???

[Jamal]

Warner or Glazer for OC!!

[redrum52]

Get Anquan in the slot and Rice against lbs. Basically put the players in roles they strive at. Jay Glazer(spelling) said Cam goes into games with a game plan and refuses to adjust regardless of whats happening.

[Jamal]

[quote name='Moderator 5' timestamp='1321572243' post='874836']

Which was???
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Warner said that Cam needs to line up Q in the slot more. He also said he needs to use Rice, and more creatively.

Glazer than said, that Cam would help out CIncy, because of how terrible he is. How he never changes his game plan, and it drives players/fans nuts.

[CincyBengals1418]

Can he at least do it for one more week? I seen that too and thought of all the Raven fans that have been calling for his head. I know how you guys feel, I felt the same way with Bob Bratkowski.

[Jamal]

[quote name='CincyBengals1418' timestamp='1321572390' post='874841']
Can he at least do it for one more week? [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png[/img] I seen that too and thought of all the Raven fans that have been calling for his head. I know how you guys feel, I felt the same way with Bob Bratkowski.
[/quote]
Good chance he keeps this up for the rest of the year, so your team/any teams that faces Baltimore is in luck.

[Blex64]

Saw this and laughed.

Too bad the stubborn old man likely won't listen.

[CincyBengals1418]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1321572548' post='874843']
Good chance he keeps this up for the rest of the year, so your team/any teams that faces Baltimore is in luck.
[/quote]
I worry about the Bengals secondary without Leon Hall. I think the Ravens will be able to pass wherever they want, that's just the feeling I get. I think the Ravens offense will do fine on Sunday. I'm very worried about that, guys are really going to have to step up and make a name for themselves.

[Jamal]

[quote name='CincyBengals1418' timestamp='1321572863' post='874852']
I worry about the Bengals secondary without Leon Hall. I think the Ravens will be able to pass wherever they want, that's just the feeling I get. I think the Ravens offense will do fine on Sunday. I'm very worried about that, guys are really going to have to step up and make a name for themselves.
[/quote]
Hall is out, and the secondary is banged up.

Because of that Cam will probably have a run first gameplan.

[Blex64]

[quote name='CincyBengals1418' timestamp='1321572863' post='874852']
I worry about the Bengals secondary without Leon Hall. I think the Ravens will be able to pass wherever they want, that's just the feeling I get. I think the Ravens offense will do fine on Sunday. I'm very worried about that, guys are really going to have to step up and make a name for themselves.
[/quote]

If we throw the ball 50 times again it won't matter, all of our receivers will be doubled/tripled the whole game. Why do anything other then rush 4 and drop 7?

[PeRK82]

[quote name='Jamal' timestamp='1321572356' post='874839']
Warner said that Cam needs to line up Q in the slot more. He also said he needs to use Rice, and more creatively.

Glazer than said, that Cam would help out CIncy, because of how terrible he is. How he never changes his game plan, and it drives players/fans nuts.
[/quote]


OMG, analyst actually explaining why the Ravens struggle and not say its Flacco's Fault, Its going to snow in July next yr.

[Blex64]

[quote name='PeRK82' timestamp='1321573204' post='874863']


OMG, analyst actually explaining why the Ravens struggle and not say its Flacco's Fault, Its going to snow in July next yr.
[/quote]

Why not? It snowed in October.

[True]

If its so obvious that these guys can see it, why doesnt John Harbaugh tell Cam Cameron to do if then? He said he's involved in the offense and that the running game was the top priority in the off season.

This is what Harbaugh has to tell Cam:

When Lee Evans returns put him and Torrey on the the outside to stretch the sideline and take care of the safeties and let Anquan Boldin lose in the slot with his money short tough catches. This will also open up the run game because if you stack the box you could give up a deep pass so you have to respect that and can't constantly have 8 guys in there making it easier for Rice to exploit.

Use the 2 TE set to open up the middle of the field and improve the running game by training Dickson and Pitta to be better blockers as well. The red zone is a big issue with scoring so they should give these guys more touches inside the 20s with seam passes up the middle to make touch catches in traffic and hit them in the flat to pick up YAC.

It's not hard, the pieces are there and so is the talent. Execution and effort will be the most important part but putting your players in a position to exceed is all you can ask for from your coaches. I'm not only saying this to Cam Cameron but John Harbaugh as well.

[ravens rule]

i read somewhere that Flacco is on pace for the 6th most pass attempts in NFL history but not likely because its getting near december when it gets colder and the elements start to play a factor. We need a balanced attack I mean why do we have Vonte Leach on the roster if were not giving Ray the rock. Like True said I thought Harbaugh was going to fix the run game.

[Grapple Raven]

Warner said last night that Flacco is not the one hurting this team overall, that Flacco has a big arm and is good down field, but that his strengths are not being utilized correctly. I have been saying this for awhile now, and feel a little vindiciated.

Today, I see this quote:
"We'd like to be more balanced, but circumstances, meaning score, field position, all those things factor in," Cameron said.

This sounds like reactionary football to me! I would think that if you started the game executing with a balance of run and pass (60/40), the clock, time of possession, score, field position would be to our advantage...can we play proactive football please Cam? That is the fundemental principle to put your team in a position to win games...proactive play, not reactionary football! If you run to set up the pass it plays to the strengths of the entire offense...not a hard concept and easily fixable!

I have to say that I am glad someone shed some light on the national stage to this issue with Cam, not to cause disruption, but to hopefully open up some "politically correct" eyes at the castle, and take some of the heat off the players. The players have enough to worry about with this game on tap, hopefully they feel a little vidicated too that someone else sees what they know, and it will provide some extra motivation. The truth will set ya free, as they say!

Go Ravens!!!

[PeRK82]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1321573497' post='874867']

Why not? It snowed in October.
[/quote]

True, almost BLEEP myself when i walked outside that day. The night before i was reading New England was going to get snow, not Maryland.

[PeRK82]

[quote name='Grapple Raven' timestamp='1321575075' post='874904']
Warner said last night that Flacco is not the one hurting this team overall, that Flacco has a big arm and is good down field, but that his strengths are not being utilized correctly. I have been saying this for awhile now, and feel a little vindiciated.

Today, I see this quote:
"We'd like to be more balanced, but circumstances, meaning score, field position, all those things factor in," Cameron said.

This sounds like reactionary football to me! I would think that if you started the game executing with a balance of run and pass (60/40), the clock, time of possession, score, field position would be to our advantage...can we play proactive football please Cam? That is the fundemental principle to put your team in a position to win games...proactive play, not reactionary football! If you run to set up the pass it plays to the strengths of the entire offense...not a hard concept and easily fixable!

I have to say that I am glad someone shed some light on the national stage to this issue with Cam, not to cause disruption, but to hopefully open up some "politically correct" eyes at the castle, and take some of the heat off the players. The players have enough to worry about with this game on tap, hopefully they feel a little vidicated too that someone else sees what they know, and it will provide some extra motivation. The truth will set ya free, as they say!

Go Ravens!!!
[/quote]

I think we have all felt the way you have felt the at some point and time buddy. Guess we all got a little vindication when you actually watch a good analyst and a Great QB say what almost all Ravens fans and Chargers fans for that matter, have been saying about[b] Cam going in the can if Rice isnt ran Cameron. LOL[/b]

[nyc9192]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1321573573' post='874871']
If its so obvious that these guys can see it, why doesnt John Harbaugh tell Cam Cameron to do if then? He said he's involved in the offense and that the running game was the top priority in the off season.

This is what Harbaugh has to tell Cam:

When Lee Evans returns put him and Torrey on the the outside to stretch the sideline and take care of the safeties and let Anquan Boldin lose in the slot with his money short tough catches. This will also open up the run game because if you stack the box you could give up a deep pass so you have to respect that and can't constantly have 8 guys in there making it easier for Rice to exploit.

Use the 2 TE set to open up the middle of the field and improve the running game by training Dickson and Pitta to be better blockers as well. The red zone is a big issue with scoring so they should give these guys more touches inside the 20s with seam passes up the middle to make touch catches in traffic and hit them in the flat to pick up YAC.

It's not hard, the pieces are there and so is the talent. Execution and effort will be the most important part but putting your players in a position to exceed is all you can ask for from your coaches. I'm not only saying this to Cam Cameron but John Harbaugh as well.
[/quote]
I don't know why John doesn't tell Cam any of this. swear the stubborn and hard headedness of both of these guys makes me sick to my damn stomach.Such a simple problem but because their buddies and John doesn't want to be mean

[Corvus]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1321573573' post='874871']
If its so obvious that these guys can see it, why doesnt John Harbaugh tell Cam Cameron to do if then? He said he's involved in the offense and that the running game was the top priority in the off season.

This is what Harbaugh has to tell Cam:

When Lee Evans returns put him and Torrey on the the outside to stretch the sideline and take care of the safeties and let Anquan Boldin lose in the slot with his money short tough catches. This will also open up the run game because if you stack the box you could give up a deep pass so you have to respect that and can't constantly have 8 guys in there making it easier for Rice to exploit.

Use the 2 TE set to open up the middle of the field and improve the running game by training Dickson and Pitta to be better blockers as well. The red zone is a big issue with scoring so they should give these guys more touches inside the 20s with seam passes up the middle to make touch catches in traffic and hit them in the flat to pick up YAC.

It's not hard, the pieces are there and so is the talent. Execution and effort will be the most important part but putting your players in a position to exceed is all you can ask for from your coaches. I'm not only saying this to Cam Cameron but John Harbaugh as well.
[/quote]

I nominate True for post of the year. There is not a single intelligent fan that thinks this is all on Harbs and Cam, but it does all start with them.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='CincyBengals1418' timestamp='1321572390' post='874841']
Can he at least do it for one more week? [img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/wink.png[/img] I seen that too and thought of all the Raven fans that have been calling for his head. I know how you guys feel, I felt the same way with Bob Bratkowski.
[/quote]
Bob Bratkowski was ridiculously up-and-down during his tenure in Cincy...even more than Cam Cameron ever was.

And we all know now that Hue Jackson was the real reason why the Bengals were so successful on offense for half of Bratkowski's stay.

[DMH_in_WA]

MIssed this while making snacks ... hopefully this will popup online in video soon so I can watch it.

[RayRiceRunningfortheRavns]

[quote name='Grapple Raven' timestamp='1321575075' post='874904']Warner said last night that Flacco is not the one hurting this team overall, that Flacco has a big arm and is good down field, but that his strengths are not being utilized correctly. I have been saying this for awhile now, and feel a little vindiciated. [b]Today, I see this quote: "We'd like to be more balanced, but circumstances, meaning score, field position, all those things factor in," Cameron said. This sounds like reactionary football to me! I would think that if you started the game executing with a balance of run and pass (60/40), the clock, time of possession, score, field position would be to our advantage...can we play proactive football please Cam?[/b] That is the fundemental principle to put your team in a position to win games...proactive play, not reactionary football! If you run to set up the pass it plays to the strengths of the entire offense...not a hard concept and easily fixable! I have to say that I am glad someone shed some light on the national stage to this issue with Cam, not to cause disruption, but to hopefully open up some "politically correct" eyes at the castle, and take some of the heat off the players. The players have enough to worry about with this game on tap, hopefully they feel a little vidicated too that someone else sees what they know, and it will provide some extra motivation. The truth will set ya free, as they say! Go Ravens!!![/quote]

Reactionary football? be more proactive? how many times have we fans gotten pissed at cam clinging to his game plan no matter what? "Hey, we're behind, we need to chop up a ton of yards in a hurry" is a good mindset and a good reason to pass the ball more.... Cam just abandoned the run too early.

[T3hRaven]

I can't believe analysts actually said something close to the truth instead of the standard praise for Cam. Hopefully the curtain has been lifted and people will see the light of just how bad Cam is.

[PWNEDbyDEANO]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1321583817' post='875013']
I can't believe analysts actually said something close to the truth instead of the standard praise for Cam. Hopefully the curtain has been lifted and people will see the light of just how bad Cam is.
[/quote]

I've not seen a lot of praise for Cam but I do enjoy seeing analysts actually call him out about him being bad at his job. It's time for Harbs to open their eyes and start slapping some sense into him.

[grape drank]

[quote name='CincyBengals1418' timestamp='1321572863' post='874852']
I worry about the Bengals secondary without Leon Hall. I think the Ravens will be able to pass wherever they want, that's just the feeling I get. I think the Ravens offense will do fine on Sunday. I'm very worried about that, guys are really going to have to step up and make a name for themselves.
[/quote]
Well if torrey's on the field you don't have to cover him cuz he's just going to be over thrown.

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1321572261' post='874838']
Get Anquan in the slot and Rice against lbs. Basically put the players in roles they strive at. Jay Glazer(spelling) said Cam goes into games with a game plan and refuses to adjust regardless of whats happening.
[/quote]

This entire board has been saying that for 3 years.