Ravens Draft 2009

[neepo13]

[quote name='rayvenfan_52' post='78279' date='Oct 21 2008, 04:01 PM']You seem to forget that C-Mac was guarding someone named..... Wait a minute. I think he was guarding a rookie. yea that has to be it.

[b]It was MARVIN HARRISON.[/b]Harrison and Manning are a good duo of QB and WR. You also seem to forget that Ivy was watching Reggie Wayne
run circles around him for most of the game but I dont see you saying anything about him.[/quote]

That is not an excuse. Marvin Harrison has not played like the old Marvin Harrison all season except that game. And even if he had been, Mac has completely shut him down in the past.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='Figurs16' post='78069' date='Oct 20 2008, 08:38 PM']Vontae Davis CB from Illinois in the first round. McAllister and Rolle are old and it would add another weapon to the already great defense.


What do all of you think?[/quote]

I think he would help this team more then a Wr would at this point, at least a 1st round Wr, we havent had the best luck with those.

Our starting CBs are getting old, and washington and davis would look good in the future.

Mason has at least one more year, and clayton could suprise, he has the talent, just needs to put it together.

we've had at least one guy getting injured every year at cb the past 2 yrs, we also get burned when theyre out.... therefore, depth helps mucho!

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='T-Sizzle55' post='78165' date='Oct 21 2008, 03:12 AM']We need to keep our eyes open for CBs WRs and DEs in this upcomming draft.
CB: we should get Vontae Davis, Illinois or Domonique Johnson
DE: we should get Matt Shaughnessy, Wisconsin or Larry English, Northern Illinois
WR: we should get DHB (Darrius Heyward-Bey), Maryland!!! or Brennan Marion, Tulsa
OLB: If we can't reach a deal with Bart Scott and the opertunity presents itself I say we get Aaron Curry, Wake Forest (just imagine if Ray and Rex get ahold of the potential this kid has).

We have LBs Ray, Suggs, and Scott in their last season.
We have WRs Demetrius Williams in his last season and Derrick Mason might be thinking of retirement.
We have SS Dawan Landry and TE Daniel Wilcox in their last season. Plus, Gregg and Reed with nasty injuries.

Does anyone know of any other players in the last year of their contract?

I don't think we have the money to keep all the players and will unfortunately have to make some cuts. I'd keep Ray, Suggs, DW, Landry, and Wilcox. I think DW, Landry, and Wilcox will be easily resignable since they won't make a killing in the market. However, we will have to balance a huge chunk of money sought after by Ray, Suggs, and Scott. Ray deserves what he asks and Suggs is young, tough and irreplaceable. Scott is like AD in the sense that they are great here and want/deserve big contracts, but I think it will hurt us in the long run if we load up and purge most of our funds on defensive players. We will have a miniscule amount in cap room leaving us unable to go after anyone on the offensive side of the ball (Anquan Boldin for instance). With Griesen, Gooden, Burgess, Barnes, Jameel McClain, Ayendejo or another draft pick, I think we can fill his spot (Sorry "Mad Backer"!). Just please make sure he doens't find his way to Cleveland or in our division (Send him to dominate the NFC!)

Possible CB FAs: Chris Gamble, Phillip Buchanon, Nnamdi Asomugha, Dunta Robinson.
Possible WR FAs: Miles Austin, Devery Henderson, Ashley Lelie (I know OAK picked him up, but if it was only a one year deal I say we grab him).
[url="http://www.profootballcentral.com/2009-free-agents/"]http://www.profootballcentral.com/2009-free-agents/[/url]

I think Chris Gamble and Ashley Lelie can help us right away and really succeed here in Baltimore. A one time he was a 1,000+ yard receiver with 7 TDs, 21 catches over 20 yards, and 5 catches over 40 yards (we need that deep threat!). Over the past 3 years Lelie has been a casualty of a poor passing games in Atlanta, San Fran, and Oakland. He should be cheap and have a great turn out with Flacco at the helm. Watch their numbers sore. Amaising speed and hands, will go up to get the ball, fights off defenders, powerfull enough to break tackles, and a serious deep threat averaging 17.1 yrds per catch. Check him out on youtube I feel bad Denver didn't keep him cuz his carreer has taken a serious hit for the worse. What if we somehow trade for Boldin (w/o giving them Suggs), pick up a cut Lelie from Oakland, and draft Darius Heyward-Bey? How do you spell dynasty? Never mind I just did! If we can stretch the field, provide some threats deep, not allow teams to put 8 men in the box on us, and burn them when they don't with our awesome backfield, I can see us becomming the most dominant team in football. The New America's team? No just Baltimore's CRUCIAL team (Get off my bandwagon fool!).

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJjY1mLj2lc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJjY1mLj2lc[/url][/quote]

I love your enthusiasm..... doubt itll happen, but its nice to see.

Hopoefully we get someone everyone can agree on and be happy about..... yeah right

[itsernst]

[quote name='coordinator0' post='77000' date='Oct 18 2008, 05:43 PM']WR

M. Crabtree
D. Heyward-Bey

or

CB

M. Jenkins
V. Davis

Only one of the mentioned above is a senior, Jenkins, so we'll have to see if the others come out. He's also the guy I want us to get the most. He reminds me of a couple of other former Buckeye corners by the names of Winfield and Clements.[/quote]

Bingo...this is what the Ravens should target. BPA from CB or WR; I think DHB will be a stud. But if Crabtree is there when Ravens pick, you cannot pass him up. Same thing with Jenkins. I would love to see the Ravens trade away a 2010 1st rounder and get Crabtree/DHB & Jenkins or Crabtree/DHB & Davis. That would make a draft!

[neepo13]

[quote name='Lets_Go_Joe' post='79034' date='Oct 23 2008, 05:02 PM']I think he would help this team more then a Wr would at this point, at least a 1st round Wr, we havent had the best luck with those.

Our starting CBs are getting old, and washington and davis would look good in the future.

Mason has at least one more year, and clayton could suprise, he has the talent, just needs to put it together.

we've had at least one guy getting injured every year at cb the past 2 yrs, we also get burned when theyre out.... therefore, depth helps mucho![/quote]

Devils advocate, here:

Our best WR is 4 years older then our best CB.

Our defensive system has been known to make less then steller players look extremely talented. Our offense has not.

We've got a pretty good safety tandem and pretty good depth at safety. Keeping the safeties at home could make up for a lack of a shutdown corner. There is no substitution on the other side.

Mark Clayton has had nagging injuries that followed him throughout the season 2 of his first 3 years in the league. And Williams has only played a full season once so far.

We know that Washington, Mac, and Rolle combined with a good pass rush, can match up well with any passing game except the top tier ones.

Our passing game on offense cant even exploit a bad secondary when our running game is giving them alot of help.

We've got the talent on defense to adjust to a guy being burned, when our defense is healthy. We do not have the talent on offense to adjust to a defense taking away our running game and Mason.

We've survived without Rolle, so far this season. Imagine what our offense would look like if Mason went down. It'd be much uglier then us losing Rolle.

[itscbm5042]

Right now Heyward Bey is a fringe 1st round/2nd round pick and I'd love for him to fall to the second round and grab a top corner like Michael Jenkins, Macho Harris, or Vontae Davis in the 1st round then Heyward-Bey in the 2nd round. Going into the 3rd round I really don't know I'd love to really strengthen our WR corps and grab another good LB but we really are stacked for the future with Barnes, Gooden, and Burgess waiting in the wings already. But yeah I'll go corner and WR 1 and 2. Grab a new TE in there somewhere to like Gresham, Quarless, Beckham, etc.

[RavensIQ]

If we can Draft Crabtree then we can't pass up an opportunity like that. I think however we should Look for a WR in Free Agency that we know will make an immediate impact right away. A rookie usually takes 2-3 years b4 he becomes an impact player. TJ Houzmanzada is a free agent...Michael Colston is a restricted free agent. You know the Bengals wide receivers have nothing but love for us. Shoot trade for Chad Ocho Cinco if we can cuz he's practically begging to be a Raven.

or We trade C'Mac for a Big time WR/Draft picks 1.) he's aging 2.) his cap will be something like 10 mill next year 3.) we can still get good value while with him bcuz he can still play.

If we decide to release or trade players like, Rolle, C'mac, Walker, McGahee, Scott. 2009 we might have more cap space then people might expect. If that's the case I say we targeted several positions in FA

1.CB-Nnamdi Asomugha
2.WR-TJ. Houzmanzada
3.DT-ALbert Haynesworth

Offseason lock up suggs long term, extend Ray's contract, re-sign Jason Brown, everybody else can be replaced.

Malcom Jenkins (CB) in the 1st if we can or an (OT)
I say we go after Heyward-Bey (WR) or (CB) in the 2nd
Draft a (DE) or (OL) or another (WR) in the 3rd

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='79074' date='Oct 23 2008, 06:32 PM']If we can Draft Crabtree then we can't pass up an opportunity like that. I think however we should Look for a WR in Free Agency that we know will make an immediate impact right away. A rookie usually takes 2-3 years b4 he becomes an impact player. TJ Houzmanzada is a free agent...Michael Colston is a restricted free agent. You know the Bengals wide receivers have nothing but love for us. Shoot trade for Chad Ocho Cinco if we can cuz he's practically begging to be a Raven.

or We trade C'Mac for a Big time WR/Draft picks 1.) he's aging 2.) his cap will be something like 10 mill next year 3.) we can still get good value while with him bcuz he can still play.

If we decide to release or trade players like, Rolle, C'mac, Walker, McGahee, Scott. 2009 we might have more cap space then people might expect. If that's the case I say we targeted several positions in FA

1.CB-Nnamdi Asomugha
2.WR-TJ. Houzmanzada
3.DT-ALbert Haynesworth

Offseason lock up suggs long term, extend Ray's contract, re-sign Jason Brown, everybody else can be replaced.

Malcom Jenkins (CB) in the 1st if we can or an (OT)
I say we go after Heyward-Bey (WR) or (CB) in the 2nd
Draft a (DE) or (OL) or another (WR) in the 3rd[/quote]

I like this, doubt very seriously we will have money to sign all 3, but who knows, maybe if we trade cmac. I'd want a 1st for cmac, and I doubt people would give that for him at his age now... who knows

I like housh, but he cries all the time, hed have to toughen up to be a raven that said, Hes better than anyone we got now, and would be motivated at least twice a year(bengals games)

Asomugha is gnna get over paid just like D.Hall, i dont know if I want 7 yrs 70 mill in a guy right now, didnt turn out so great for the raiders.

I dont see us dumping Willis, he plays hard, even though he has issues he gets it done... I dont have the utmost confidence in rice, and mcclain will need to play fb, because neal wont be around forever.

As for who we need, if we could pry a 1st rounder from someone for cmac, we could go DH-B AND Jenkins or Davis theoretically... People seem to like Jenkins over Davis, and I like Davis more, because hes a freakish athlete at a posistion of need. I'll leave that for when the draft experts start breaking them down in the offseason (because we all know Mel Kiper is always right )

So i guess all I want during the offseason is a solid WR option and another nice young CB.... we'll see how we handle it I just hope we dont ignore the CB spot for a 3rd straight year.

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

The only people that we honestly need to resign is Lewis, Suggs, and Brown. With others as an exception. We need to pick up another reciever in Free Agency. I'm not sure who will be out there. But there should be someone with talent. Look to the draft to get some quality Corners and maybe pick up a WR or another TE.

[RavensIQ]

I don't know if anyone has read this article [url="http://ravens24x7.com/column_view.php?cid=46&id=2863&view=archive"](2009 Salary Cap Preview)[/url] but I think it's pretty interesting.

Nxt yr Proj. Cap space: $14.6M
Rolle: $4.1M
Anderson: $2.94M
Walker: $1.6M
C'Mac: $8.0M
Gregg: $1.15M
Douglas: $2.8M
McGahee: $8.13M
Clayton: $2M
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$45.32M in available cap space.

2009's dead money that would normally rollover and count against 2010 might not be an issue bcuz potentially 2010 could wind up being an uncapped year.


We replace C'Mac with Nnamdi Asomugha and Rolle with Fabian Washington. Replace Ivy with Malcom Jenkins and Derrek Martin. Now all of a sudden we have the best secondary in the league with Landry, Reed, Washington, Asomugha, Jenkins and Martin defending the pass.

You lock up Suggs and Sign Haynesworth and now all of a sudden we have the best DL in the NFL with Suggs and Pryce on the ends, and Haynesworth, Ngata, Gregg/Edwards/Parker in the middle.

Extend Ray's contract and now all of a sudden our LB corp stays elite,experience, and young with guys like Gooden, Barnes, Burgess, McClain, Jones all up and coming stars ready to step up. Not to mention veterans like Jarret Johnson, Brandon Ayanbadejo, and Nick Greisen to add into the mix and now we have one of the fastest, most experienced, youthful and skilled LB corps in the NFL

Pick up TJ Houzmanzada and start him on the left with Williams/heyward-bey(or draft wr) on the Right with Mason in the slot with Marcus Smith as the 4 man and Harper/Wheelright as the 5 man. Flacco going into his 2nd year to throw ropes to TJ. Maybe coaches Trade McGahee for some value bcuz they feel his lack of commitment this offseason isn't something they want to build upon going into the future and we pick up a back like Ricky Williams, Darren Sproles, or Kevin Jones in free agency and now all of a sudden we have one of the best and youngest offenses in the NFL. Not to mention Cam Cameron finally being able to open up the entire playbook.

Let Stover retire gracefully and replace him with a stronger more powerful leg to kick 50+ FGs and booming touchbacks on kickoffs. And with Figurs returning punts and Sam Koch kicking punts we'll continue to have one of the best Special Teams in the NFL.

So, with the key additions of 3-4 positions in free agency and a good draft we now have one of the youngest teams and one of the best teams in the NFL for a very longtime. WR's, Qb, Rbs, LBs, CB, OL, DL all very young and all locked up for several years to come.

Maybe with a new regime Harbaugh will decide to clean house, put his stamp on the team, make it his teams and makes it a young fast athletic team, once again?

[Sub-Zero]

no way in hell are we going to be able to lock up even 2 of the 3 in Nnamdi, Haynesworth, and T.J. I'd be in tears of joy if we had Haynesworth, every other team would be crying in tears because we have him.

[rayvenfan_52]

What you just posted is impossible RavensIQ. If we did (highly unlikely) have those guys wed be the best defense in the league. Its never going to happen though.

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='79238' date='Oct 24 2008, 12:42 PM']I don't know if anyone has read this article [url="http://ravens24x7.com/column_view.php?cid=46&id=2863&view=archive"](2009 Salary Cap Preview)[/url] but I think it's pretty interesting.

Nxt yr Proj. Cap space: $14.6M
Rolle: $4.1M
Anderson: $2.94M
Walker: $1.6M
C'Mac: $8.0M
Gregg: $1.15M
Douglas: $2.8M
McGahee: $8.13M
Clayton: $2M
---------------------
$45.32M in available cap space.

2009's dead money that would normally rollover and count against 2010 might not be an issue bcuz potentially 2010 could wind up being an uncapped year.


We replace C'Mac with Nnamdi Asomugha and Rolle with Fabian Washington. Replace Ivy with Malcom Jenkins and Derrek Martin. Now all of a sudden we have the best secondary in the league with Landry, Reed, Washington, Asomugha, Jenkins and Martin defending the pass.

You lock up Suggs and Sign Haynesworth and now all of a sudden we have the best DL in the NFL with Suggs and Pryce on the ends, and Haynesworth, Ngata, Gregg/Edwards/Parker in the middle.

Extend Ray's contract and now all of a sudden our LB corp stays elite,experience, and young with guys like Gooden, Barnes, Burgess, McClain, Jones all up and coming stars ready to step up. Not to mention veterans like Jarret Johnson, Brandon Ayanbadejo, and Nick Greisen to add into the mix and now we have one of the fastest, most experienced, youthful and skilled LB corps in the NFL

Pick up TJ Houzmanzada and start him on the left with Williams/heyward-bey(or draft wr) on the Right with Mason in the slot with Marcus Smith as the 4 man and Harper/Wheelright as the 5 man. Flacco going into his 2nd year to throw ropes to TJ. Maybe coaches Trade McGahee for some value bcuz they feel his lack of commitment this offseason isn't something they want to build upon going into the future and we pick up a back like Ricky Williams, Darren Sproles, or Kevin Jones in free agency and now all of a sudden we have one of the best and youngest offenses in the NFL. Not to mention Cam Cameron finally being able to open up the entire playbook.

Let Stover retire gracefully and replace him with a stronger more powerful leg to kick 50+ FGs and booming touchbacks on kickoffs. And with Figurs returning punts and Sam Koch kicking punts we'll continue to have one of the best Special Teams in the NFL.

So, with the key additions of 3-4 positions in free agency and a good draft we now have one of the youngest teams and one of the best teams in the NFL for a very longtime. WR's, Qb, Rbs, LBs, CB, OL, DL all very young and all locked up for several years to come.

Maybe with a new regime Harbaugh will decide to clean house, put his stamp on the team, make it his teams and makes it a young fast athletic team, once again?[/quote]

Fairy tales....

[T-Sizzle55]

[quote name='410finest' post='78166' date='Oct 21 2008, 05:23 AM']We need a WR and maybe replacement for for Mac... The way the Colts played him out might be a sign to think about replacment. He did not start this week and we won... hint hint.[/quote]

We also gave up 300 passing yards without him and he might of had a pick. There was a play where Fabian Washington dropped an INT that McAlister might have been in front of, you never know. People are throwing C-Mac under the bus but you are forgetting he is a premier CB. He has been to 3 Pro Bowls (2003, 2004, 2006), led the NFL in interception yards in 2000, led NFL in interception touchdowns in 2006, and has a Superbowl ring. This year he is off to a great start (with 3 picks) and can continue to help this team. He has gone up against Randy Moss, Hines Ward, Marvin Harrison, Levernius Coles, Chad Johnson, TJ Housh, Braylon Edwards and shut them down. True he's given up plays, but they are all the top WRs in the league and have pretty good QBs throwing to them. You can't be 100% perfect and not give up a single catch in the NFL, that's impossible! We are better with him than without him. I hope sitting gave him a better perspective on things and maybe in the end it will make him better and more of an all around better team player.

[PurpleClawsOfFURY]

I don't want TJ housabooger... Horrible baby non football playing ugly trash talking wide receiver.... I hate him almost as much as i hate hines ward

[CTravenfan]

a big time WR in the first either crabtree or heyward-bey. and im a little bias here but in the 2nd darius butler. plays all 3 sides of the ball, fast and a pretty good cover man. he could also help in the return game and he would fit into our system. the rest of the draft we need depth on the lines. can never have enough depth on the line at both sides fo the ball

[Shawn`]

[quote name='Devastat1on' post='71346' date='Oct 1 2008, 05:59 PM']Ahh i would kill for us to draft James Laurinaitis the LB from Ohio State.. Once this guy makes it to the NFL, he'll be one of my favorite linebackers easy.. The guy is a ball hawk..[/quote]

Yeah if we didn't need a WR and CB first round I'd snag this guy. I know its a stretch, but this guy has NFL hall-of-fame written all over him. Doubt he'll be around in the 2nd round but if he is..

[futurerRaven]

i like brandon orakpo from texas in the first round and in the second vontae davis or heyward-bey maybe we should try for more picks

[PuRock]

If you want to extend the defensive mindset into the offense. We should get Brandon Carter (OL) 6'7'' 354 lbs. He's one intimidating dude. He's actually a really decent football player as well. Take a look at the picture in the link, in case you don't know who he is.

[url="http://larrybrownsports.com/college-football/texas-techs-brandon-carter-crazy-face-paint-lattimerstyle/3367"]http://larrybrownsports.com/college-footba...timerstyle/3367[/url]

[march4superbowl]

James Laurinaitis would be a nice pick-up, but i doubt we snag him with all the lb we already have. 2 bad we wasted that pick on Dan Cody.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='march4superbowl' post='82438' date='Oct 31 2008, 03:27 PM']James Laurinaitis would be a nice pick-up, but i doubt we snag him with all the lb we already have. 2 bad we wasted that pick on Dan Cody.[/quote]
Laurinaitis is OVER-RATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hes not the player everyone makes him out to be.

But, with Barnes, Gooden, and McClain I doubt we would do it anyway, we have more pressing needs at CB and WR, even OL

[neepo13]

[quote name='T-Sizzle55' post='79371' date='Oct 25 2008, 02:43 AM']We also gave up 300 passing yards without him and he might of had a pick. There was a play where Fabian Washington dropped an INT that McAlister might have been in front of, you never know. People are throwing C-Mac under the bus but you are forgetting he is a premier CB. He has been to 3 Pro Bowls (2003, 2004, 2006), led the NFL in interception yards in 2000, led NFL in interception touchdowns in 2006, and has a Superbowl ring. This year he is off to a great start (with 3 picks) and can continue to help this team. He has gone up against Randy Moss, Hines Ward, Marvin Harrison, Levernius Coles, Chad Johnson, TJ Housh, Braylon Edwards and shut them down. True he's given up plays, but they are all the top WRs in the league and have pretty good QBs throwing to them. You can't be 100% perfect and not give up a single catch in the NFL, that's impossible! We are better with him than without him. I hope sitting gave him a better perspective on things and maybe in the end it will make him better and more of an all around better team player.[/quote]

He [b]was[/b] a premier CB. He's still a good corner but no where near where he once was.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Lets_Go_Joe' post='82444' date='Oct 31 2008, 03:31 PM']Laurinaitis is OVER-RATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hes not the player everyone makes him out to be.

But, with Barnes, Gooden, and McClain I doubt we would do it anyway, we have more pressing needs at CB and WR, even OL[/quote]

I agree LB is the least of our worries going into this draft because we've spent so many picks on it over the past few seasons.

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='futurerRaven' post='82297' date='Oct 31 2008, 02:12 AM']i like brandon orakpo from texas in the first round and in the second vontae davis or heyward-bey maybe we should try for more picks[/quote]
Problem is... everyone likes Orakpo, he is #1 on Mels big board right now. He is such a dominating force, however, I highly doubt he will be anywhere near where we pick. I figure we will be in the teens somewhere next year, maybe even the twenties, so we will have to see who is there. I like Davis and DHB though... but it will all go to the Oz and if he can make it happen again this year, we will see, alot will change between now and then, so we could be talking about a whole different group of guys depending on out spot.

[rayvenfan_52]

[quote name='Lets_Go_Joe' post='82444' date='Oct 31 2008, 09:31 AM']Laurinaitis is OVER-RATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hes not the player everyone makes him out to be.

But, with Barnes, Gooden, and McClain I doubt we would do it anyway, we have more pressing needs at CB and WR, even OL[/quote]

Heres what I think is more important
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WR CB OL

WR and OL are more important them our CB situation. If our front 7 manages to get to any QB fast then our CB situation wouldnt be as horrible as some people put it. If we want to see our team be a playoff caliber team then we need to get our offense up.

[Gwaihir]

[quote name='T-Sizzle55' post='79371' date='Oct 25 2008, 02:43 AM']We also gave up 300 passing yards without him and he might of had a pick. There was a play where Fabian Washington dropped an INT that McAlister might have been in front of, you never know. People are throwing C-Mac under the bus but you are forgetting he is a premier CB. He has been to 3 Pro Bowls (2003, 2004, 2006), led the NFL in interception yards in 2000, led NFL in interception touchdowns in 2006, and has a Superbowl ring. This year he is off to a great start (with 3 picks) and can continue to help this team. He has gone up against Randy Moss, Hines Ward, Marvin Harrison, Levernius Coles, Chad Johnson, TJ Housh, Braylon Edwards and shut them down. True he's given up plays, but they are all the top WRs in the league and have pretty good QBs throwing to them. You can't be 100% perfect and not give up a single catch in the NFL, that's impossible! We are better with him than without him. I hope sitting gave him a better perspective on things and maybe in the end it will make him better and more of an all around better team player.[/quote]

Sorry, But C-Mac has to go!! He should have had surgery last year to fix his knee problems, and the team expected him to, BUT HE DIDN'T!! He felt it was more important to party it up all off-season.

He won't play the defenses Rex calls, (Irsay's Game), and is not a team player, but a Me-First player... SeeYa!!! If he's back next year I WILL BE SHOCKED!!

We can save 8 Million dollars towards the cap if we cut him and get someone else here who wants to be a Raven and play for Harbaugh, C-Mac doesn't care about such things, only his money!!

I used to love the guy and thought he was the key to our Defense, key word "WAS". I've lost all respect for him this year and am quite sure we are better off without him moving forward in the Harbaugh era!!

No one else will give him 8 Million for next year, and we shouldn't either!!!

[JO_75]

Looks like we are wanting to run out Chris Mc Calister out of town. Yeah we release him and save like 8 million but wouldn't it be better to trade him for like a 3rd or 4th round pick so we could use that pick on adding depth to our roster?

To me and I still feel this way, but our needs for the draft our


TOP TWO NEEDS
Corner Back

Wide Reciever

Use the other Draft Picks to build depth among the roster.

[Eurich]

Crabtree NOW

[neepo13]

[quote name='Eurich' post='82732' date='Nov 2 2008, 12:16 AM']Crabtree NOW[/quote]

I agree. I actually watched him play tonight. That guys a monster. Ozzie needs to move heaven and earth to get him.

[CARavensFan]

[quote name='neepo13' post='82735' date='Nov 1 2008, 09:27 PM']I agree. I actually watched him play tonight. That guys a monster. Ozzie needs to move heaven and earth to get him.[/quote]

Well then if that's the feeling we should go for CB this draft because Crabtree is just a sophomore and he won't be available until the 2010 draft.