Our Coach Lost The Game

[mcgaheewillrunyourassover]

blame no one but him
derrick mason caught the ball in the endzone 2 feet in...he doesnt bother to challenge it...if he did we wouldve won
and he didnt even try to score before overtime
our team played well enough to win and he messed it up
and i cannot possibly be the only one who thinks this

[Ravnet]

I'm pretty sure a guy cannot tell if his wide receiver had possession while dragging two toes from thirty yards away. Blame the guys in the booth.

[BloodRaven]

Who are we the Eagles? we cant cannibalize our team based on one game.

Mistakes happen and the good Harbaugh has done outweighs the bad.

[SickBoy]

[size=3]I seen the replay from home and I doubt they would have overturned the call. Though, a first half time out is usually worth taking another look.[/size]

[BirdWatcher]

With a rookie QB, you need to hoard your timeouts.

[mpplaya07]

exactly you cant blame him for it.. They have people upstairs who would tell him to challenge it and if it wasnt overturned everyone would of got on him for wasting a timeout. Simple as it is they beat us. it was stupid penalties and lack of special teams that caused us the game. Not to mention flacco fumbling but i guarantee you it wont happen again from him. Overall i was impressed by the way our team did.

[mcgaheewillrunyourassover]

[quote name='SickBoy' post='71078' date='Sep 30 2008, 07:48 PM'][size=3]I seen the replay from home and I doubt they would have overturned the call. Though, a first half time out is usually worth taking another look.[/size][/quote]

they would have...he had 2 feet down...and like you said,its worth taking a look at...especially since we wouldve won 24-20 if he had
but you guys do have a point with the guys in the booth

however..you guys have to stop all this "hes a rookie and we had 1 timeout" crap
you have to give him a chance to win the game...find out what kind of QB he is...nothing would boost a ravens qbs career than making a game winning drive in pitt on monday night football...he didnt throw any interceptions so i doubt anything disasterous wouldve happened

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

I think we have a good understanding of what type of QB he is.

One capable of managing the offense, even through the adversity of being down 7 points w/ 5 min left in the 4th quarter and sending it to overtime.

[heapitup247]

Wow thats one of the most ignorant things ive ever heard. That may not have changed the game at all, and playing the what if game and blaming the coach is stupid. We lost, we just gotta take it. We're not going to go 16-0, and thats just the truth. No one person is to blame, it was a collective effort. I say the same thing with the JJ penalty. To blame JJ, thats just stupid. 15 yards isnt 14 points. Momentum wise it didnt change too much, the touchdown did. On the TD i can blame 3 people for either not getting coverage or missing tackles. But to say that one of those 3 lost us the game is stupid. We need to move on and kind of put it behind us. There were so many positives in that game and i felt like the coaching staff did one hell of a job for the game. You could see a sort of confidence and the offense moved the ball effectivly. We could say that if we got the TD they would have went for the 4th and one and potentially gotten it and then we're tied.

You are the only one who thinks this. Hes a coach, hes not a player. He didnt miss a tackle, late hit somebody out of bounds, fumble the football, chop block, etc. We had all we could ask for to win the game, but we just couldnt win. I was dissapointed, but to blame one person, especially the coach who has a winning record with the youngest offensive line, a rookie QB, and a fullback as their leading rusher, is just wrong.

[mcgaheewillrunyourassover]

[quote name='Troy SmiTH Xx' post='71090' date='Sep 30 2008, 08:04 PM']I think we have a good understanding of what type of QB he is.

One capable of managing the offense, even through the adversity of being down 7 points w/ 5 min left in the 4th quarter and sending it to overtime.[/quote]

like said...nothing would be better for him than to have led that game winning drive
it would have been better for him and for the team
bad decision by Harbaugh

[ravensgirlx88]

I disagre, did you see his conference? Its a hard call to make.. Risk calling a play that may not have been and lose a much needed timeout for later in the game?...He seen it a totally different veiw than we did, I dont think we should already critizise him!!

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

I think this thread is pointless to continue.

[mcgaheewillrunyourassover]

[quote name='heapitup247' post='71092' date='Sep 30 2008, 08:05 PM']Wow thats one of the most ignorant thing ive ever heard. That may not have changed the game at all, and playing the what if game and blaming the coach is stupid. We lost, we just gotta take it. We're not going to go 16-0, and thats just the truth. No one person is to blame, it was a collective effort. I say the same thing with the JJ penalty. To blame JJ, thats just stupid. 15 yards isnt 14 points. Momentum wise it didnt change too much, the touchdown did. On the TD i can blame 3 people for either not getting coverage or missing tackles. But to say that one of those 3 lost us the game is stupid. We need to move on and kind of put it behind us. There were so many positives in that game and i felt like the coaching staff did one hell of a job for the game. You could see a sort of confidence and the offense moved the ball effectivly. We could say that if we got the TD they would have went for the 4th and one and potentially gotten it and then we're tied.

You are the only one who thinks this. Hes a coach, hes not a player. He didnt miss a tackle, late hit somebody out of bounds, fumble the football, chop block, etc. We had all we could ask for to win the game, but we just couldnt win. I was dissapointed, but to blame one person, especially the coach who has a winning record with the youngest offensive line, a rookie QB, and a fullback as their leading rusher, is just wrong.[/quote]

uhh...HELLO
if that was overturned it would have been 4 extra points and we wouldve won in regulation
i doubt it would change the game in a way to help them...and they likely would not convert it on 4th down

and not trying to win the game before the end of regulation...horrible decision

[mcgaheewillrunyourassover]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='71094' date='Sep 30 2008, 08:08 PM']I disagre, did you see his conference? Its a hard call to make.. Risk calling a play that may not have been and lose a much needed timeout for later in the game?...He seen it a totally different veiw than we did, I dont think we should already critizise him!![/quote]

we would get 2 timeouts in overtime anyway...that wasnt gonna hurt us...it wouldve helped to use it for the game winning drive right then

[khalil]

The only bad desicion I saw from the coach was not tryin to win the game in regulation. They had plenty of time and a time out. It kind of seemed like we were playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Thats the only thing that pissed me off but whatever move on John well learn hes a rookie to and the loss isnt the end of the world.

[Troy SmiTH Xx]

[quote name='khalil' post='71102' date='Sep 30 2008, 08:15 PM']The only bad desicion I saw from the coach was not tryin to win the game in regulation. They had plenty of time and a time out. It kind of seemed like we were playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Thats the only thing that pissed me off but whatever move on John well learn hes a rookie to and the loss isnt the end of the world.[/quote]


But they were at their own 20. Something could've easily happened where we fumbled the ball or it got intercepted, than they got the ball in our territory in very manageable field goal range

[mcgaheewillrunyourassover]

[quote name='mpplaya07' post='71086' date='Sep 30 2008, 06:55 PM']exactly you cant blame him for it.. They have people upstairs who would tell him to challenge it and if it wasnt overturned everyone would of got on him for wasting a timeout. Simple as it is they beat us. it was stupid penalties and lack of special teams that caused us the game. Not to mention flacco fumbling but i guarantee you it wont happen again from him. Overall i was impressed by the way our team did.[/quote]

we probably couldve scored with 1 less timeout on the drive that closed the half
i mean not trying to get the TD just seemed like a bad decision

[mcgaheewillrunyourassover]

[quote name='Troy SmiTH Xx' post='71106' date='Sep 30 2008, 07:17 PM']But they were at their own 20. Something could've easily happened where we fumbled the ball or it got intercepted, than they got the ball in our territory in very manageable field goal range[/quote]

you have to show confidence in your QB
the way the colts and pats have won games

flacco may not be tom brady but at a time brady wasnt as great as he is...he had to be tested...and he passed
you have to find out how he performs in a situation like that...you have to ignore that hes a rookie...big ben was a rookie in 2004

[mcgaheewillrunyourassover]

[quote name='khalil' post='71102' date='Sep 30 2008, 07:15 PM']The only bad desicion I saw from the coach was not tryin to win the game in regulation. They had plenty of time and a time out. It kind of seemed like we were playing not to lose instead of playing to win. Thats the only thing that pissed me off but whatever move on John well learn hes a rookie to and the loss isnt the end of the world.[/quote]

exactly...thats what irritated me the most
the no-challenge not as much

[nevermore621]

I think he may have been a bit conservative with the play calling at the end of regulation, and when we got the first possession in OT, but then we have a tendency in Baltimore of thinking the D will keep us in the game no matter what. The fact that we got called for two illegal blocks on the kickoff return in OT didn't help our cause, but all in all, that's life.

I think we are ALL getting used to the idea that Flacco might be our first genuine franchise QB. I just chalk it up to experience/confidence and expect everyone to react differently in the future. This team if it can get and stay healthy is as good as or better than any we have ever fielded, and I would remind everyone that it all starts with sound coaching, technique, and conditioning. If you take all that into consideration Harbaugh and the other ccoaches are doing a great job with a very young team.

[bkirha1]

I don't agree at all. I think he missed the challenge, but you can't fault him. Don't forget, isn't he the one who has put us in this position in the first place? He has united the team, invigorated the vets, and instilled discipline where we needed it the most.

I feel much better about Harbaugh than I did Billick. It's only his third game. Give him a break...

[EXEravenforlife]

it wasnt his fault, it was the guys in the booth....END OF STORY!

[khalil]

hey I think John is doin a great job to all i'm sayin is we should have gone for the win in regulation and I believe hell learn from that. He's a rookie to afterall.

[neepo13]

Can we stop pointing the blame for this loss? There is enough of it to around. The players and coaches have moved on, its time we do so to.

[slugz]

[quote name='mcgaheewillrunyourassover' post='71065' date='Sep 30 2008, 06:18 PM']blame no one but him
derrick mason caught the ball in the endzone 2 feet in...he doesnt bother to challenge it...if he did we wouldve won
and he didnt even try to score before overtime
our team played well enough to win and he messed it up
and i cannot possibly be the only one who thinks this[/quote]
really since when harbaugh put on a jersey i need to by his jersey

[Moderator 2]

Anyone listen to the coach on the Radio tonite? I was pretty irritated until someone called in and asked him, apparently the replay was not set to the coaches in the booth nor was it shown on the big screen, so they were not sure. Rookie coach--rookie mistake--he needs some one in the locker room with a TV and rabbit ears.

[heapitup247]

[quote name='mcgaheewillrunyourassover' post='71098' date='Sep 30 2008, 07:10 PM']uhh...HELLO
if that was overturned it would have been 4 extra points and we wouldve won in regulation
i doubt it would change the game in a way to help them...and they likely would not convert it on 4th down

and not trying to win the game before the end of regulation...horrible decision[/quote]

you said a big word in there..if. Its not a sure fire thing as we've seen with a lot of blatanly obvious things not called the way we thout they should have. Regardless you cant play monday morning QB. Its easy to second guess things when you know the outcome.

[TXRaven]

No... I would have liked to seen a challange but Harbaugh didn't loose the game.

[mpplaya07]

What lost the game was our team, you cant blame Harbaugh for what happen... It was the defense that missed some huge tackles.. It was our special teams that penalties and no decent yards.. It was our offense that couldn't move the ball all the time and the fumbles by the QB.. Overall our team did decent vs a good defense.. This shows us that our team has room to improve on but not as much as we think.. our offense moved the ball and scored. Whens the last time you saw a ravens qb help the offense move the ball with no INT's? Yes they should of challenged it but look at his point of view, upstairs didnt have that camera view that we all had so they made the best decision at that time and no want to waste a timeout

[Tiz]

[quote name='mcgaheewillrunyourassover' post='71065' date='Sep 30 2008, 04:18 PM']blame no one but him
derrick mason caught the ball in the endzone 2 feet in...he doesnt bother to challenge it...if he did we wouldve won
and he didnt even try to score before overtime
our team played well enough to win and he messed it up
and i cannot possibly be the only one who thinks this[/quote]
You're 12 or 13?

You obviously don't follow football that closely if you think that coaches don't also have an assistant in the booth who try to watch the replays up there and radio down to challenge. Add that to the fact that this play took place on the opposite side of the field and you realize Harbuagh can only rely on others on whether or not to challenge.

Remember you are watching on TV, Harbuagh is not...