Touchdown Review?

[Bobby]

Why did we not ask for a review of that touchdown catch in the first half....it looked very clean to me. Do the coaches not have access to the network replay? I am not sure if they do or not...it was such a quick play I would have thought it was worth a look.

BTW - Flacco threw that pass REALLY well!

GO JOE! The Blue Hens and Ravens Rock!

[Ravens52]

It was, but nothing much we can do about it now

[Shadowalker]

I dont think it was reviewed at all. They immediately went to the next play. At least from what I saw

[PuRock]

John Harbaugh isn't having the best luck with challenges. He probably figured its best to save our timeouts. In a loud stadium like this, Flacco is going to need the TO's if he can't hear or something doesn't look right.

I doubt they would have called it a TD. The ball shook loose when he was about to hit the ground.

[CARavensFan]

[quote name='PuRock' post='70837' date='Sep 30 2008, 04:49 AM']John Harbaugh isn't having the best luck with challenges. He probably figured its best to save our timeouts. In a loud stadium like this, Flacco is going to need the TO's if he can't hear or something doesn't look right.

I doubt they would have called it a TD. The ball shook loose when he was about to hit the ground.[/quote]

I thought it looked like a TD and apparently after the game the replay officials said that it most likely would have been ruled a TD, but if by some weird event it wasn't we would not have only lost that TD, but we wouldn't have had the timeout needed to get the other TD that was got at the end of the game so in some ways we traded the TD to Mason for the TD to Wilcox.

[Moderator 2]

Rookie Head Coach.

[slugz]

[quote name='PuRock' post='70837' date='Sep 30 2008, 08:49 AM']John Harbaugh isn't having the best luck with challenges. He probably figured its best to save our timeouts. In a loud stadium like this, Flacco is going to need the TO's if he can't hear or something doesn't look right.

I doubt they would have called it a TD. The ball shook loose when he was about to hit the ground.[/quote]
naw he secured it before he dropped with one hand

[neepo13]

It happened on the Steelers sideline. Our coaches didnt get a good look at it and the Steelers stadium didnt replay it on the big board to give the Ravens coaches a good look at it. I cant really blame him for that one.

[neepo13]

[quote name='PuRock' post='70837' date='Sep 30 2008, 07:49 AM']John Harbaugh isn't having the best luck with challenges. He probably figured its best to save our timeouts. In a loud stadium like this, Flacco is going to need the TO's if he can't hear or something doesn't look right.

[b]I doubt they would have called it a TD. The ball shook loose when he was about to hit the ground.[/b][/quote]

ESPN actually said that one of the replay officials in the both, said that if he would have challenged they would have overturned it.

[PuRock]

[quote name='neepo13' post='71018' date='Sep 30 2008, 04:02 PM']ESPN actually said that one of the replay officials in the both, said that if he would have challenged they would have overturned it.[/quote]

I guess I was wrong. When I looked at the replay (only once) I thought I saw the ball loose for a second.

Bad call from Harbaugh, can't do much about it now.........Although we could get Marty McFly to power up his Delorean and go back into the future one last time. He can instruct Harbaugh to challenge the call.

We can whine about it, unless we are on the brink of firing Harbaugh, there isn't much reason to discuss this.

[MJSMOOTH]

That was a TD

[Moderator 2]

Coach said on WBAL tonite that they were not given the replay in the booth at the stadium, go figure.

[Tiz]

[quote name='Moderator 2' post='71187' date='Sep 30 2008, 07:41 PM']Coach said on WBAL tonite that they were not given the replay in the booth at the stadium, go figure.[/quote]
Which is standard for a visiting team...

[PuRock]

[quote name='Moderator 2' post='71187' date='Sep 30 2008, 10:41 PM']Coach said on WBAL tonite that they were not given the replay in the booth at the stadium, go figure.[/quote]

Is this something that can be brought up with the league?

[Tiz]

[quote name='PuRock' post='71226' date='Oct 1 2008, 06:31 AM']Is this something that can be brought up with the league?[/quote]


You mean that there should be more rules to allow the Ravens to have special treatment or a rule that forces the Ravens to show replays for visiting teams because we do the same thing that the Steelers do. And that's not show the replay if we think it gives the visitors another chance to look at a play and challenge it...

[Raven07]

Harbaugh said in his interview yesterday (when asked this exact question) that from his point of view down on the sideline and only having a sideline view of a play in which happened 30 yards or so away from them, he and the team officals only saw it happen it real time as it happened, the Replay wasnt relayed to the booth fast enough for them to look at it properly and radio Harbaugh to throw the red flag, it wasnt until a play or two afterwrds that Harbaugh saw it in slow motion and realized he should've thrown the challenge flag, were we cheated out of a TD? yes in my oppinion we were, it wasnt Harbaugh's fault at all that the replay of it didnt get to him fast enough for get upstairs fast enough for them to look at it in slow motion..and with the hostile environment and the rivalry between the Ravens and the steelers, one can only wonder if it was done on purpose (prolly not but still....) or what...... the question is still there, which means the possibility still remains.

[Tiz]

[quote name='Raven07' post='71260' date='Oct 1 2008, 08:41 AM']Harbaugh said in his interview yesterday (when asked this exact question) that from his point of view down on the sideline and only having a sideline view of a play in which happened 30 yards or so away from them, he and the team officals only saw it happen it real time as it happened, the Replay wasnt relayed to the booth fast enough for them to look at it properly and radio Harbaugh to throw the red flag, it wasnt until a play or two afterwrds that Harbaugh saw it in slow motion and realized he should've thrown the challenge flag, were we cheated out of a TD? yes in my oppinion we were, it wasnt Harbaugh's fault at all that the replay of it didnt get to him fast enough for get upstairs fast enough for them to look at it in slow motion..and with the hostile environment and the rivalry between the Ravens and the steelers, one can only wonder if it was done on purpose (prolly not but still....) or what...... the question is still there, which means the possibility still remains.[/quote]

Yes it was done on purpose and we do the same to other teams in regards to replays at M&T. At some point people have to realize that whining about stuff that we do ourselves is being a hipocrit...

When i see people complain about the TD non-call as if that play was what lost the game I have to wonder if they simply ignore the rest of the game from that point forward. There are many many factors that have an effect on the final outcome one of which was giving up a TD to the Steelers no huddle offense. Another is Jarret Johnson's PF. Bad tackling, in ability to force more turnovers play a factor as well.

[Raven07]

agreed, there were/are a combination of different things that happened throughout the course of the game monday, most of which really came into play during the second half of play, Flacco was far from perfect though he did do what they told him to and not turn it over (interceptions) there are still a bunch of things in which flacco and the whole team have to work on if they expect to be competitive in the upcoming games/weeks as well as the seasons to come. There werr good points made during the game in which everyone was praising but there was also mistakes and mishaps made in which we need to work on IF we are to be considered a top contender. Flacco made it a point in his post-game interview to say that he was far from perfect that game and there was things in which he could have done in which would have helped the team out and possibly win the game, more so than that one throw to mason in the endzone, Ball security is one thing that i noticed he has to work on, he has to be fully aware of his surroundings and know what is going on around him, thus he can evade the would-be tacklers and get the ball out of the there in a safe professional manner/fashion. Another i noticed from Flacco was that of his timing in certain situations, he needs to trust his surroundings and feel confident in his throwing ability and get the ball out of there a little bit earlier than what he was doing monday night. At times he was waiting a little bit too long to get rid of hte football and that resulted in some of the negative plays we saw.

Another thing i saw that the team needs to work on and improve upon is our Offensive Line's ability to drive the defenders back off the line and out of the play. what i saw monday night (for most of the night) was a unit in which defenders were able to break through and get to flacco forcing him to do the same type of thing that our defense was hoping to do on Ben. So if we are to let Flacco have the time to survey the field and get rid of the ball on-target and accurately, practice and strength of the O-line is a virtue.

[Mick0311]

[quote name='PuRock' post='71019' date='Sep 30 2008, 03:14 PM']Although we could get Marty McFly to power up his Delorean and go back into the future one last time. He can instruct Harbaugh to challenge the call.

We can whine about it, unless we are on the brink of firing Harbaugh, there isn't much reason to discuss this.[/quote]


88 MPH + Flux capacitor = TD

[PuRock]

[quote name='Mick0311' post='71295' date='Oct 1 2008, 01:51 PM']88 MPH + Flux capacitor = TD[/quote]

Where's McFly? McFly!

[Baltboy]

[quote name='Tiz' post='71263' date='Oct 1 2008, 11:50 AM']Yes it was done on purpose and we do the same to other teams in regards to replays at M&T.[/quote]
Maybe we learned our lesson after showing Cleveland's field goal over and over on the jumbotron in front of the officials

[BigDawg]

[quote name='PuRock' post='71226' date='Oct 1 2008, 08:31 AM']Is this something that can be brought up with the league?[/quote]

No it can't be brought up. There is a guy upstairs with access to the plays.(works for the Ravens) His job it to buzz the HC and tell him, Hey looks good for an overturn or, Don't look good don't drop the flag. Got nothing to do with any replay in anyones stadium

[PuRock]

[quote name='BigDawg' post='71302' date='Oct 1 2008, 02:37 PM']No it can't be brought up. There is a guy upstairs with access to the plays.(works for the Ravens) His job it to buzz the HC and tell him, Hey looks good for an overturn or, Don't look good don't drop the flag. Got nothing to do with any replay in anyones stadium[/quote]

But that's what I'm talking about. Apparently Harbaugh says that the guy upstairs didn't have access to the play. I'm not talking about the replay in the Stadium, I know there is nothing wrong with them doing that.

[neepo13]

[quote name='PuRock' post='71304' date='Oct 1 2008, 02:41 PM']But that's what I'm talking about. Apparently Harbaugh says that the guy upstairs didn't have access to the play. I'm not talking about the replay in the Stadium, I know there is nothing wrong with them doing that.[/quote]

Yeah. The replay didnt hit the booth in time. If we would have waited we might have had to burn a timeout. I think the only thing we can do is mention it so that they make sure its functioning next time. The league has been experiencing alot of "technical difficulties" the last few weeks. The refs review booth malfunctioned during the Denver- Chargers game. There have a been a few people with radio's in their helmet say that the plays dont always come in clearly.

[Baltboy]

I don't get ESPN.
How is their coverage on MNF in general?
Do they have a lot of camera angles and show a lot of replays?