Has Joe Hit The Ceiling?

[PurpleRage]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1320021148' post='847113']

you know nothing, Joe throws one of the best deep balls in the league, does he hit on all of them? no....his completion % is down so far this year because this offense is in transition...but he'll get better as will the offense...first we need steady OL play
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Throwing a ball long and throwing a ball accurately are 2 completely different subjects. Kyle Boller could throw it through the goalposts from the 50 on his knees, remember? If Joe had even average accuracy, Torey Smith would be in the discussion for Rookie of the Year

[1/28/01]

I think we're talking in extremes here. Yes, I beleive Flacco's throws to Smith are a bit off, but its a combination of many things. Im excited that they seem to be gaining trust in one another. Future is looking bright for this combo

[rlh445]

Ugh. I'm sorry mods, I don't have anything else to add at this point. Just ugh.

[D-Rey]

[quote name='PurpleRage' timestamp='1320020449' post='847070']
A lot gets blamed on Cam, and rightfully so. But Joe is very very mediocre. I started noticing this in the Rams game. That game should have had us scoring 50-60 points. Fact of the matter is, and I havent really seen this discussed much, Joe's accuracy beyond 10-15 yards is BAD. [b]And thats not something that can be developed, coached, or taught[/b].
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It most certainly can

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

[quote name='PurpleRage' timestamp='1320020449' post='847070']
A lot gets blamed on Cam, and rightfully so. But Joe is very very mediocre. I started noticing this in the Rams game. That game should have had us scoring 50-60 points. Fact of the matter is, and I havent really seen this discussed much, Joe's accuracy beyond 10-15 yards is BAD. And thats not something that can be developed, coached, or taught.
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Well I could almost believe that but he hit torrey on 3 great throws, the first time he had ever thrown to him in a game, the first....EVER. But yeha I guess you could be right if there were not numbers to tell you that you are wrong every time.

[Romo Ravens]

[quote name='jimmypowder' timestamp='1319558757' post='837115']
Have we seen the best Joe can do?

Has he hit the ceiling in terms of ability?

If this is the best he can give us,I think it really is time
to look elsewhere.I have been a Flacco defender many times
in this forum but I just cant defend him anymore.

I know the O-line stinks but so does Big Ben's along with other
QB's.

Is it time next year to put out feelers for a replacement?
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<Deleted>. Flacco is going to get better when the offensive line improves and when Cam Cameron is fired. Funny topic!

[Militant X 1]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1320022204' post='847147']
I think we're talking in extremes here. Yes, I beleive Flacco's throws to Smith are a bit off, but its a combination of many things. Im excited that they seem to be gaining trust in one another. [u][b]Future is looking bright for this combo [/b][/u][img]http://content.boards.baltimoreravens.com//public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png[/img]
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very bright in deed!

~Mili

[BmoreRavens732]

Nah wiz I don't take the bus I'd rather ride Joe all the way to Indy...thanks for the offer anywayz

[AZravensfan]

[quote name='SteelerStone' timestamp='1319568889' post='837682']
Not trying to troll but I watched two horrible QB's last night! As a Steeler fan, we all know who I was rooting for but WOW! Gabbert plays like he's scared to death....throwing while backpeddling on virtually every throw. And just when people start thinking he can manage the game, Flacco just keeps laying eggs.
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Flacco is good sorry to burst yalls bubbles, QBs have bad games(all QBs have bad games sometimes).

Flacco is mostly a winner and that was a pretty "egg" he laid on your D tonight.

[scrock]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1320021059' post='847105']
Nope, the only ceiling there is, is the one on the offense because of the inconsistent play of the Offensive line, when Grubbs gets back and they start playing better you will see Joe play better. The OL is the key....and maybe if Lee Evans returns..

also playcalling goes into it too, you have weapons in Dickson and Pitta and they never get any looks? they got some today finally...

Joe is struggling because this offense is in transition....Duhh
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if this thread is being brought back up, i look back on a previous posting..hmmmm

[Ravenslifer]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1320658652' post='858227'] if this thread is being brought back up, i look back on a previous posting..hmmmm[/quote]

Grubbs was huge today. It's funny how a solid offensive line can make the difference between an erratic quarterback and one who is spot on come crunch time, isn't it?

[scrock]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1320659880' post='858230']

Grubbs was huge today. It's funny how a solid offensive line can make the difference between an erratic quarterback and one who is spot on come crunch time, isn't it?
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its major, look at Tom Brady when he is under pressure, these past two weeks...he finally got something going against the Giants late but it wasnt enough because Eli came back and won it

OL play is huge

[RavenFanatic1327]

i can't see joe being a average quarterback.much better than that

[RavenoutWest]

Flacco took a huge step up last night. I could hear the words "POWER UP" on that last drive. Welcome to the next level Joe!!. I can' wait to see the next game.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

raven actualy that catch by torrey reminded me of Rush mode in Blitz the League 2, joe kinda stood there like your blitzing , well try this on , and torrey hit the trigger button for slowmo slide and the score

[RivenHale]

Bob Dylan could have been singing about Joe: "But for the sky, there are no fences facing."

[quote name='TheRavenouseD2008' timestamp='1320695883' post='859111']
raven actualy that catch by torrey reminded me of Rush mode in Blitz the League 2, joe kinda stood there like your blitzing , well try this on , and torrey hit the trigger button for slowmo slide and the score
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No idea what you said there, champ, but I sure like it.

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='scrock' timestamp='1320661035' post='858238']
its major, look at Tom Brady when he is under pressure, these past two weeks...he finally got something going against the Giants late but it wasnt enough because Eli came back and won it

[b]OL play is huge[/b]
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For QBs like Brady, Peyton Manning, and Flacco this is especially true. Flacco can move the pocket a little bit, but he's the style of QB that needs to have solid OL play to pick apart the defense. Brady hasn't looked like Brady, at least to me, this season because the OL play has been so poor.