[Blogs] Late For Work 10/25: Suggs Sounds Off

[Zeus]

Biscuit, I agree. yes Joe was bad but what the heck was John thinking with an on side kick? Its more then Joe to blame for this loss.

[Coolhurt]

Not giving flacco any excuse , but the line was terrible last night. I believe some adjustments in protection could have been made, but againg that's on Cam. Flacco is still a young QB that gets rattled after he gets hit. I think Cam did not realize he was playing the 8th ranked def last night. At what point in practice does Flacco say this [profanity deleted] isn't going to work. I hear they want in more involed. He played a lot of shotgun in college and was effective. When do we design the offensive game plan to his strengths.

[real_ravens_fan]

What can we say ? I mean I am a big Flacco supporter you know get behind ur qb and all but we have real issues on the oline and real issues with playcalling...until we get those 2 thing fixed we will never know how good or bad flacco is...has he ever had a pocket like brady ? nooooo ....what a effort by the dfense

[DW714]

@Zeus. I'm definitely not saying it's all Flacco's fault. We had a lot of issues last night. All I'm saying is that elite, franchise-type QBs make plays despite all the other flaws that a team might have. Flacco can't carry a team. He needs everything to be perfect around him to succeed. The defense will not always have a good game, the running game and O-line may struggle, but great QBs can put a team on their back and lead them to a win. I'm not saying last night's loss was his fault, I'm just saying I don't think Flacco is what people think (or hope) he is, and has not earned a new contract as of yet.

[Zeus]

I know it is hard to see right now, but this loss may be the BEST thing to happen to us. yes I said the best thing to happen to us. The way the guys in our locker room feel today they will remember and wont want to feel this way again. Lets hope they learn and make changes

[JIVE1000]

If you're going to stay with Flacco week after week do some major trading and get Heap and the best receiver we've ever had. He's been to the jets and then to the texans and should be available to the ravens now. Flacco doesn't do change well. New receivers for him are not a good idea. Either get your old tight end and receiver back or get a new qb. Why not try the back up qb? Could he have done worse than last nights Flacco performance? Shake em up. Wake em up. This is the regular season and not the pre-season any longer. And for heavens sake get Flacco a cup of coffee before each game. He looks like he's sleepy. I've seen ice cubes with more emotion.

[Zeus]

DW714, I hear you and agree.

As i said before, its not the loss but how and who we lost too. I still believe we will make the playoffs but that's not the point. Winning the big game is the point and right now I cant see us doing it.

[kdsays]

This loss stinks! Defense played well, yet offense did not show up. Yet, it's a good time for this kind of loss, still early in the season. Ravens seem to be a team that thrives when there is more at stake. They never seem to thrive when they are in the driver's seat. Winning does not seem to breed confidence. Having to win creates the urgency to win.

I suggest a team mantra--to always believe everything is at stake, that the Ravens are always the underdog, can never relax, must always come out to battle and to win. That seems to be the psyche of this team. It's a good time to decide how to be in the driver's seat the remainder of the season. The team can win every game when they ALL decide to. It's going to be a fun season.

[Biscuit]

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Biscuit, I agree. yes Joe was bad but what the heck was John thinking with an on side kick? Its more then Joe to blame for this loss.
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I could see where he was coming from at the time, the Jags were moving the ball on the defense and were burning play clock. I think at the time he thought that his onside kick was pretty good, and if he could get the ball back in the offenses hands maybe they could keep the momentum going. If they didn't recover, the thought was the d can still stop them, or the field is short enough that they can't waste as much clock. If they got the ball back, people would be saying best call ever. However, sometimes you gamble and lose.

[Pozman]

It's hard to give Ray all the touches he deserves when you're always 3rd and long with false starts on Oher and you're 3 and out every single possession. The Jax defense knew our snap counts and were off on the ball before our O-lineman, even Odgen couldn't block a guy if he gets off before the O-line moves. We are vanilla and predictable. When we finally moved the ball in the hurry up, which we should have tried in the 2nd quarter to get things, moving, it was the slowest hurry up I've ever seen. Even Harbaugh was screaming to speed up with a little urgency. I disagree with the choice of the onside kick as well. You have Cundiff on can bang the ball out of the end zone, with 2:02 on the clock. Stop them at the 20 and make them punt deep. You have the 2:00 minute warning, 2 time outs, and a dominate defense. We still would have gotten the ball with 1:48 to play, but 35 yards closer (maybe?). What's the odds of recovering an onside kick, maybe 10%?

[JIVE1000]

know it is hard to see right now, but this loss may be the BEST thing to happen to us. yes I said the best thing to happen to us. The way the guys in our locker room feel today they will remember and wont want to feel this way again. Lets hope they learn and make changes

Zeus: we all said the same thing after the Tennessee game so it may not be the best thing to happen afterall. We can't keep saying each poor performance may be the best thing to happen can we?

[cobrajet]

I will give Ray Rice a pass, because he has stepped up this year until last night. My one complaint, is that the Jags where putting up a stone wall last night. I just want to see a few runs to the outside instead of trying to Peyton Hillis it up the middle. I just want to see a no hesitation -monster -break like your life depended on it - break to the corner and turn up the field attempt. I am just not a fan of Ray running straight toward the nose tackle. Hit some corners.

[DW714]

If this was not a lockout year, Cam would have definitely been gone. They just kept him for the continuity because starting over with a new offense after the lockout wouldn't have worked. Cam will certainly be gone after this season.

[Zeus]

if you can, turn on sirius sat radio nfl radio, bmore peeps are lighting it up

[EdBallhawkReed20]

John Harbaugh your turn, you called an onside kick with the two minute warning with your defense playing excellent. I understand you wanna get the ball back but let them punt the ball the Jaguars were going to play one dimensional and run considering there quarterback had little to no productivity. To top everything off Maurice Jones Drew fumbled three times, possibly could have been four if you let the defense hit the field. We would have got the ball back at our at a minimum.

Cam Cameron if wide receiver are having trouble getting separation can you say "motion" its really not that hard or maybe even "bunch" formation tight-ends weren't really involved either.

Joe Joe Joe you have to make the team around you. You have the talent to be an elite I need you to have faith in yourself and receivers. Know why, because that's just what elite quarterbacks do. You are the deciding factor in a Superbowl ring. My best advice to you. "Just go out and enjoy the game." Live by your safety Ed Reed quote, "I play hard every time I don't ever want to wonder what could have been."

[Zeus]

jive1000 - did you think we would go 16 and 0 this year?

[Biscuit]

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If this was not a lockout year, Cam would have definitely been gone. They just kept him for the continuity because starting over with a new offense after the lockout wouldn't have worked. Cam will certainly be gone after this season.
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I agree with you here, I think the lock out saved him. I am hoping that Baltimore can lure in a good play caller. I think Cam was brought it and is good at instilling and establishing quality skills in a QB. (HEAR ME OUT) His issue is he doesn't take of the reins. He took Drew Brees and established his ability, once Brees left and went to a good play caller he was out of this world good. Rivers learned and when Cam left and Rivers got a decent play caller he took off. Hopefully the same happens here. I think Cam is good for a young offense, but now that they know whats what, they need an offensive mind that can and will use them to their strengths, and not just do what they like best.

[Zeus]

How many people here remember Steve B, saying he was building the team this season to get back to the run game after what happen last year. ????? anyone remember????

Well what happen to the run game last night?

[Biscuit]

@ Zeus... I have no idea what happened early, however its hard to run on 3 & 43 or what ever it was...haha

[The Mom Gene]

We have a young offense... I have to agree with that! You have Lee Evans out for...indefinitely??? You have two quasai (sp?) rookie TightEnds, your deep threat is a rookie... and your running game was shut down, period. The opponents defense was playing man coverage and mugged our guys downfield... It was ugly, plain and simple.

[Zeus]

Biscuit, thats a cam cameron special play (please dont let the secret out to the other coaches). If its 3rd down and long - 15 yards or more cam will try one of his tricky/sneeky plays that has a 0% success rate "the run play"

[The Mom Gene]

[quote name='Zeus' timestamp='1319556632' post='837028']
How many people here remember Steve B, saying he was building the team this season to get back to the run game after what happen last year. ????? anyone remember????

Well what happen to the run game last night?
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Hey Zeus... I believe our running game was completely shut down last night... plain and simple! The Jags are what? ranked 2nd against the run??? If not, they're pretty close... they shut down Mendenhall last week.

[GlobeTrotter416]

I the best thing that could happen to the offense if all the talk about "we will get better" "we will get back on track" to stop. Actions speak louder than words (cliche but true). No one will believe that until we see it actually being done. Terrible performance last night. SICKENING!!!

[Zeus]

Beth you missed the point, re-read post.

[GlobeTrotter416]

Also, I do not understand why everyone is being so hard on Harbaugh. The onside kick was only inches from being beautiful. If it had worked, everyone would be calling him a hero won't they. Focus on the big picture guys.

[r.lewis52]

The hurry-up offence looked all slow like they did'nt know what was going on. Poor gameplan by came againnnn!

[DW714]

I feel a little better after venting this morning. Remember the 24 hour rule everybody...after that let's move on to Arizona. The bad news for Arizona is they will be facing a very angry Ravens team. If we double cover Larry Fitzgerald with Cary Williams and Ed Reed (whew, he gave me a scare last night when he got hurt) and we should be ok.

[RavensFan34950]

If it ain't fixed don't fix it. Thats been Cams motto for years and im sick of it. He will be the death of this team and we just need to get rid of him before its too late. At this point it looks like Suggs should be our Coordinater not Cam.

[Rover555]

Rice having only 8 carries does not constitute "shutting down our running game". This was one of, if not the most, nauseating game I've ever watched as a Ravens fan. Vanilla (and redundant) play calls...abandoned the run game, when the receivers could not get separation there were no adjustments (ie. crossing routes), Flacco was inaccurate and had zero ability to extend plays or make something happen, special teams sucked, Cundiff shanking it from 52 yds while Scobee puts two through from 54 and another from 51....what the heck!!!! Time to stop the "winning the division chatter". And it's not just about last night, the offense played like crap against the Jets too.

[Purple_ICE 81]

I just dont see us changing up run plays, it seems like we go up the midle too much. We need to try some delays, outside runs, shotgun runs, just anything other than going through the tackles constantly. ANd to be honest rice needs to start getting 30 carries a game, he is our only consistent weapon on offense