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Petition To Fire Cam

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[quote name='Patricia_NC' timestamp='1319549486' post='836655']
Handing the weapons on this offense to Cam Cameron is like giving an ouzi to a 3 year old.......it may fire once in a while but he really has no idea what to do with it.
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okay. That was funny!
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I mean we have a pretty bad red zone offense as well. We always have to settle for field goals. And last night proved you cannot always rely on them to win games. I'm sorry but the first one on the list to go is Cam. Then if we still suck after a new OC is hired you can talk about Harbaugh and Flacco.

Go for it.
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[quote name='AsianRice' timestamp='1319549492' post='836657']
The only thing I dislike him is he backs up Cam 100%; in general as HC, I want him to stay cuz he brings his team back to winning strikes, but not CAM......
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Seriously Rice, what do you realistically think Harbs is gonna do; come out and publicly flay Cam alive in front of national news outlets? That's not realistic at all, a (good) head coach is always gonna back up his guys one hundred percent in public no matter what his plans for said guys are behind the scenes.
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Well they got rid of Jim Zorn (IMO a scapegoat) and Al Saunders went to Oakland so Cam Cameron is the only one with offensive knowledge. If he is fired mid-season, who else is going to take over the play calling? There isn't anyone and John Harbaugh can't do it. He's going to be here for the whole season (unfortunately).
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[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1319549796' post='836669']
It would be great if this post received 50,000 responses in a couple of hours and them Adam schefter reports Cam Cameron has been fired....

we shoulda got rid of him [b]and kept Al Saunders anyway.[/b]
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We also got rid of Jim Zorn instead of Cam too.

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JO_75
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Instead of a petition how about just OTC....Occupy The Castle!!!! For those of you that are really serious.
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[quote name='rlh445' timestamp='1319558227' post='837086']

Seriously Rice, what do you realistically think Harbs is gonna do; come out and publicly flay Cam alive in front of national news outlets? That's not realistic at all, a (good) head coach is always gonna back up his guys one hundred percent in public no matter what his plans for said guys are behind the scenes.
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At what point of my statement said John will publicly rebuke his own players or coaches?; every1 knows John won't do that and that's his style toward the media. He will do behind the door; however, my point is his action of keeping Cam after failing offensively is ridiculous.

I also know we keep Cam cuz of the lockout, but since we venture to drop veterans players like Heap and Mason cuz of space cap but truthfully for Joe to not depend solely on the vets. Ozzie and Biscotti want Joe to control the offense and grow together with younger players. We went out to upgrade O-line and recievers, and as a result we can't even score until the end of the 4th quarter. When something works, Cam decides to abandone it cuz he thinks he can outsmart the opposing defense by choosing different playcallings which have never worked since the 1st quarter. Joe's no hurdle offensed kept the Jaguars off guard and defenseless against it. He seemed to get this rythym back after 84yd drive for TD; if he continued audibling and going with no hurdle, he will get his winning TD.

Seriously, right now we're stuck with Cam for the rest of the season..........

PS: I want Cam to be gone and that's just me period......
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[quote name='bpytnjr58' timestamp='1319560205' post='837204']
Instead of a petition how about just OTC....Occupy The Castle!!!! For those of you that are really serious.
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now that would actually be funny
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[quote name='AsianRice' timestamp='1319560394' post='837214']
At what point of my statement said John will publicly rebuke his own players or coaches?; every1 knows John won't do that and that's his style toward the media. He will do behind the door; however, my point is his action of keeping Cam after failing offensively is ridiculous.

I also know we keep Cam cuz of the lockout, but since we venture to drop veterans players like Heap and Mason cuz of space cap but truthfully for Joe to not depend solely on the vets. Ozzie and Biscotti want Joe to control the offense and grow together with younger players. We went out to upgrade O-line and recievers, and as a result we can't even score until the end of the 4th quarter. When something works, Cam decides to abandone it cuz he thinks he can outsmart the opposing defense by choosing different playcallings which have never worked since the 1st quarter. Joe's no hurdle offensed kept the Jaguars off guard and defenseless against it. He seemed to get this rythym back after 84yd drive for TD; if he continued audibling and going with no hurdle, he will get his winning TD.

Seriously, right now we're stuck with Cam for the rest of the season..........

PS: I want Cam to be gone and that's just me period......
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I want him out too but who is out there but who would be available next season?
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[quote name='codizzle' timestamp='1319560410' post='837216']
now that would actually be funny
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With all the OWS stuff going on it popped into my head....It would be hilarious!!!!
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[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1319543922' post='836461']

Absolutely no game plan adjustments. We tried nothing on offense when we couldn't get anything going. Why would you not try a hurry up at least mid way through the 3rd quarter to set their D back on their heels a bit and try to get some rhythm going on offense? We didn't even try to use our TEs until the 3rd quarter. We never once sent Rice out as a decoy and then throw to the other side. If nothing else, that hurry up debacle where we lost about 2 mins and wasted a time out because Cam insisted on sending in the plays, only sent in one at a time and was slow as a snail about it should be enough for a pink slip.
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You hit the nail squarely on the head.
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The players are losing faith in Cam, you could see it on the field when we had to call a TO before the play clock ran down. Boldin and Flacco were lookin over at the sidelines saying "wth?" with their arms out questioning why Cam couldnt figure out what he wanted to run. Also, clearly Suggs is voicing the same frustration. Cam is gone.
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Honestly Suggs is a 100% right, we don't use our pro bowl running back at all, we pass way to much, and when we pass, the plays seem to be intentionally designed to have the reciever in front of the first down marker. I don't understand how Cameron who designs and calls these plays still has his job. I thought he should of been fired at the end of last year after, this game last night has only given me more validation.

FIRE CAM CAMERON
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[quote name='bpytnjr58' timestamp='1319560552' post='837230']
I want him out too but who is out there but who would be available next season?
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I wish we have Tom Clements to coach Flacco....

Oh well, we'll have to see who gets fire the end of the season for pickup as OC for us next year....
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[quote name='fiPlease be quiet.llwales' timestamp='1319561432' post='837281']
The players are losing faith in Cam, you could see it on the field when we had to call a TO before the play clock ran down. Boldin and Flacco were lookin over at the sidelines saying "wth?" with their arms out questioning why Cam couldnt figure out what he wanted to run. Also, clearly Suggs is voicing the same frustration. Cam is gone.
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I saw that too which cost us the momentum in game and the timeout. Why can't Cam let go of Joe? Why is he always up in his neck and stick like a leech? Can he let Joe breath for a sec?

I was like what the heck? when Cam decided to call his own abysmal playcallings when Joe wanted to control his offense......
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[quote name='Alexir' timestamp='1319546812' post='836551']
Get rid of Cam and make the QB coach the offensive coordinator. OH WAIT! That's right! He is the QB coach, who thought up that wonderful idea.....
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The same idiot who hired Cam in the first place and thought it was a good idea to get rid of the QB coach that Joe actually liked.

Cam's a bum and should have been fired after last season. This has to happen after the season is over.
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If the goal is to win a Super Bowl before Ray Lewis and Ed Reed retire, [b]Cam MUST BE FIRED...[/b]

Signed,

T-Ray
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[quote name='fiPlease be quiet.llwales' timestamp='1319561432' post='837281']
The players are losing faith in Cam,[b] you could see it on the field when we had to call a TO before the play clock ran down. Boldin and Flacco were lookin over at the sidelines saying "wth?" with their arms out questioning why Cam couldnt figure out what he wanted to run. [/b]Also, clearly Suggs is voicing the same frustration. Cam is gone.
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That was all on Cam I agree, but to put a little on Joe here, at that point he should have just told Boldin to line up, get everyone lined up himself and hail mary it, that would have been better than any play Cam called.

Sad part is, the Ravens won't fire Cam now and if they do they will wait for the season to be over with. At least Brian Billick knew it was time for the OC to be fired in 2006, unfortunately Harbaugh doesn't realize that.
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[quote name='bpytnjr58' timestamp='1319560552' post='837230']
I want him out too but who is out there but who would be available next season?
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I am, seriously I wouldn't mind Billick
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[quote name='bpytnjr58' timestamp='1319560552' post='837230']
I want him out too but who is out there but who would be available next season?
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I'm hoping Gary Kubiak or Norv Turner will be out of a job.
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[quote name='D-Rey' timestamp='1319566524' post='837536']
I am, seriously I wouldn't mind Billick
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[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1319566637' post='837541']


I'm hoping Gary Kubiak or Norv Turner will be out of a job.
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Take Out Turner and those are the ones I want. Billick or Kubiak would be a MAJOR Upgrade at Offensive Coordinator.
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2 Things:

1) Is there a way to get this Pinned?

2) Once more people sign it, how can forward this to the Castle in Owings Mills?
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[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1319566637' post='837541']


I'm hoping Gary Kubiak or Norv Turner will be out of a job.
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Interesting theory!
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[quote name='D-Rey' timestamp='1319566524' post='837536']
I am, seriously I wouldn't mind Billick
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Do not think he would do it.
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[quote name='ravensdfan' timestamp='1319544924' post='836485']

I'm not putting this on Flacco. That hurry up debacle where Cam refused to let Joe call the plays shows that all the "this is Joe's offense" they've been feeding us is bull. Cam will NEVER let go. Give me a new OC and then let's evaluate Joe. I refuse to throw the only decent QB we've ever had under the bus for an OC that obviously cannot get it done.
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I 1000% agree.
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