MERGED: Biggest Problem-Blame Game

[scrock]

The defense did its job but the OL couldnt fet anything goin, run ot passs

so if u want a scapegoat thats the problem right there

They need to fix that ina hurry especially with the Steelers coming soon

What a wasted game man...

This should have been a Ravens win

They took a step back or two tonight

[Jamal]

The o-line was bad, but you gotta give Flacco a big chunk of the blame as well.

Gabbert looked better than him playing a far better defense and having significantly less talent around him on offense.

[TreTheRaven]

I won't blame the defense but the [u][b]ENTIRE[/b][/u] offense was a joke tonight.

[ball hawkin 20]

I blame Cam and Joe for not playing without passion. Everytime i see Flacco on the sidelines he's with Cam or just sitting on a bench. Like seriously? Shouldn't you be giving some dramatic speech about how we're the best team ever and you wanna be considered elite so we have to step it up? Granted the O-line was atrocious to, but look at Cutler and BB.

[Ravenslifer]

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I blame Cam and Joe for not playing without passion. Everytime i see Flacco on the sidelines he's with Cam or just sitting on a bench. Like seriously? Shouldn't you be giving some dramatic speech about how we're the best team ever and you wanna be considered elite so we have to step it up? Granted the O-line was atrocious to, but look at Cutler and BB.
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You're not seriously bringing Jay Cutler in as an example of how to behave as an NFL qb? Joe Montana was never a vocal guy. Nor was Dan Marino. What they did do was step it up when it mattered. I'm starting to wonder if Joe can. My other observation: Ray Rice had 8, yes 8, carries on offense. Everyone says Flacco plays better on play action -well you need to RUN the ball in order to call play action. Jacksonville has one of the worst run defenses in the league, and Rice has 8 carries? This is Cam Cameron's fault, at least 95 percent of it. 8 carries, really?

[ball hawkin 20]

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You're not seriously bringing Jay Cutler in as an example of how to behave as an NFL qb? Joe Montana was never a vocal guy. Nor was Dan Marino. What they did do was step it up when it mattered. I'm starting to wonder if Joe can.
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I'm not calling Jay vocal. I'm just saying we can't blame everything on the o-line, Bears is a lot worse and Cutlers been pretty good even though he's the leagues most underrated qb

[Ravenslifer]

Can someone explain to me how the Jags let Jones-Drew carry the ball 30 times and Ray Rice has 8, yes 8, carries the whole game?

[Juviebest]

Well I'm officially a Flacco hater.

Is it too late to "$uck for Luck"?

[jaege]

[quote name='Juviebest' timestamp='1319515261' post='835332']
Well I'm officially a Flacco hater.

Is it too late to "$uck for Luck"?
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I went from liking him to defending him with difficulty, to now doubting him. Yes there were many other elements that led to this loss, but Joe had a big hand in it.

[I AM LEGEND]

How many games is that this year where Flacco has looked Horrid? Lol

[Juviebest]

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I went from liking him to defending him with difficulty, to now doubting him. Yes there were many other elements that led to this loss, but Joe had a big hand in it.
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That's exactly how I am. I know Cam plays a part but I haven't seen any improvement since his rookie year. No need in wasting anymore time with him.

[HarleypsychRN]

Pathetic...nothing else to say except, some of the worst officiating I've ever seen.

[AsianRice]

I don't understand we successfully ran no hurdle offense and scored TD, and y can't continue to use it to discrupt their defense? I was pissed off when we went for hurdle and let the Jags defense regroup.

Joe was so slow on that last interception. Dickson went for his route and stood there which was a trap to throw to; If he threw it early, it wouldn't be intercepted.

What sup with spread offense with under route calls? I think we called them and successful but abandoned it.

BTW, Joe's vision was really bad tonight.

[RavensPunkXVX]

So, looking at the schedule, we should have about 6 losses left. I mean we are losing the games we are expected to win. I am by no means a Flacco hater, but an "elite" quarterback could make passes even if his line gets broken down. Jay Cutler threw some completions when he was getting destroyed. (hes not elite) Flacco can manage a game when we're ahead, but outside of that, he can't lead us. Hopefully our defense continues to play strong.

Hopefully we go wild on the Cardinals next week and I'm done with listening to the media talk. I wanna see our team do work on the field and that's it. Prepare for everyone like its the super bowl.

I've never been more frustrated with the Ravens than I have this game. Absolutely horrid outside of our defensive play.

[MagicianCamille]

Ray Rice had 8 carries? What the heck? Flacco was terrible but at some point you have to try and establish the run.

[I AM LEGEND]

Let's not blame officiating....

[SuRihtanil]

Joe Flacco was our problem tonight! Maybe once he retires and we pick up a QB worthwhile we can have a SB run.

[opbilly]

this is all about coaching. how many time outs do we waste? never use the middle of the field. and to not kick off to the end zone??? inexcusable!!! how many years did we sign his extension for? i wont have any hair left!!!

[jaege]

Joe was bad. Gabbert looked better. At least he was making throws into coverage. The team let us down.

[tctony]

Who gets your blame for tonights game?

The offensive line and Ray Rice's blocking gets my vote tonight. Their blocking was...offensive.

Flacco played terrible, but with no blocking and no separation by the receivers (sound familiar?) its hard to play QB.

[Alexir]

OL wasn't great but neither is Green Bays, New Orleans, Steelers or Buffalos but their QBs actually make plays. How can Flacco be "elite" or pro bowl worthy when he is just above average when his offensive line is completely healthy?

At least he scored a TD in the 4th QTR lol

[I AM LEGEND]

Lets make a list

1. Cam called one of his worst games ever

2. Flacco just isn't that good

3. Anquan Boldin isnt scary...he isn't savy enuff to be the Route runner Flacco needs and isn't fast enuff to be the deep threat.. hell let's be honest...he looks a TE most of the time.

4. The offensive line isn't really that good either...

[Ravens Beast]

CAM CAMERON was the problem. FIRE HIM NOW!!!

Pathetic playcalling in the first half.

2nd O-line....played horrendous

3rd...rush defense definitely didn't play too well either.

4th Flacco...played bad in the First half, as well as the majority of the second half.


I have never seen a Baltimore Ravens team perform this badly. Simply terrible play. Offense, Rush Defense, as well as Special Teams.

[jdynamite]

Ravens biggest problem is that " they" seem to always fall into the trap laid out by the media...
Whenever we are: ( hyped to be one of the best teams , or favored to win by a wide margin to make a huge statement )
It's as if the players also felt we should walk through this team ( Titans and Jaguars ). U have to step on a teams throat before they fold up like the colts did with the saints.
We came out of halftime with no offensive adjustments. Almost no 3 WR sets, we dont use our double TE sets effectively like other teams....
It's always screen, deep bomb, or 10 yd curl or comeback.... Smh

[rip18]

I know everyone loves Flacco, but seriously tonight was a prime example of why the Ravens will [u][b]never[/b][/u] win a SuperBowl with him at Quarterback, (or Harbaugh as Coach)

[lgcs27288]

I think the play calling was pretty poor, but execution on all levels of the offense was horrid. Flacco was horrible, Rice only had 8 carries, and the receivers couldnt get much separation or off the line.

[Militant X 1]

the offense was trash tonight!

~Mili

[shawn ny]

The game was sooo terrible the only thing that came to mind is vegas rulled against us lol....Seriously O line flacco and receivers...get your game together...you put our defense at a terrible disadvantage...reed almost got hurt and cody was out twice due to injury...get your crap together or trade for manning imo....

[rharge007]

Cam Camron needs to give Flacco some more slack to adjust and audible. As well as call some of his own plays Camron has two much control over Flacco always calling every play. You could see it in jim Harbaugh's face at how slow the plays were coming in and slowing up the tempo in the 2 minute drill. Cam Camrom Failed us, he failed to adjust to what was coming and it is impossible to see it from the sideline.

[Juviebest]

Question is: How many more seasons do we keep Flacco? He sure doesn't warrant a big contract.