Cam Cameron

[ball hawkin 20]

Just a vote by hands to see whats the general conseus

[BmoreRavens732]

Has to go

[Ravenslifer]

He should have been gone this offseason. Even with the lockout, a half-decent o-coordinator should have been able to put up points against one of the WORST run defenses in the NFL with one of the best running backs in the NFL.

[ruitcys]

Our defense should play offense too, I'm sure they will put more points on the scoreboard! I'm sure Ray would be a great QB

[52Strong]

Hate to say it because I have spent so much time trying to defend him but obviously this is not working. Wither its %100 his fault or not we really need to pursue other options. Look at how much the change in D Coordinator has helped so far....

[wayne]

All of it ain't Cam. On that Boldin crossing route, Flacco over threw Boldin who was open. On the sack by Daryl Smith, Flacco missed Dickson who on the replay was open as he was coming off the jam. Its Cam but its just not him alone.

[dwshet]

To be honest, scoring zero points as an offense, even as a team, through three quarters of football is unacceptable. Whatever you think of Flacco, he's at least a decent quarterback. With Ray Rice, Anquan Boldin, Torrey Smith, Pitta, and Dickson, we should be able to get something done on offense. Although Jacksonville is a decent defensive team, something is seriously wrong with our offense. No first downs in the first half? Is that a joke? In terms of talent, this game should have probably been a walkover for us. We very may well end up losing. Whatever the case, our offense has been inconsistent under Cam Cameron. In order to win playoff games, in order to make it to a Superbowl, our offense has to be consistent. If Cam Cameron can't figure out a way to make us consistently good with the weapons we have now, I don't know why he should still have a job here.

Also, first post!

Go Ravens

[yogismo]

[quote name='52Strong' timestamp='1319512710' post='834656']
Hate to say it because I have spent so much time trying to defend him but obviously this is not working. Wither its %100 his fault or not we really need to pursue other options. Look at how much the change in D Coordinator has helped so far....
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I'm generally a Cam supporter (I have a log in as "Rob H" but for some reason the website won't let me access it right now), but I have to agree with this. I've never seen an OC do less with as much talent as the Ravens have right now. Answer me this... what could firing him POSSIBLY HURT?

[SuRihtanil]

I loved all the flags, some of them were uncalled for against our team. I would have made Flacco sit down for a few plays and put in our Rookie to see if he could pick up any slack.

[counts52]

The lack of urgency on offense in the last 5 minutes of the game was beyond ridiculous. Ravens offense has me at a loss for words

[D_UP]

[quote name='wayne' timestamp='1319513199' post='834776']
All of it ain't Cam. On that Boldin crossing route, Flacco over threw Boldin who was open. On the sack by Daryl Smith, Flacco missed Dickson who on the replay was open as he was coming off the jam. Its Cam but its just not him alone.
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This. People keep blaming cam yea ok I get it. Flacco is to blame also he spoke up this offseason he said he's elite. He bares the brunt of this also the guy is untrustworthy he is not a smart football player he has skill set to be a good qb but so did Jeff George.

[bmorefan444]

Im no football guru, but we have some great players on this offense so why can't we get a first down? My only answer is that Cam isn't putting the pieces together in the right place.

On another note...I'm getting tired of defending Flacco. I tell everyone to be patient with him...I'm losing my own patience.

[EnVy_CaLiBeR]

That whole offense can go rot. Flacco, Cam, the WRs, the O-Line, EVERYBODY.

[CalvinSmoke]

I'm so disappointed in our offense... Our defense did what it does best, Josh Scobee was just MVP of this game. But our schemes where atrocious... There corners are smaller and faster than our recievers... WHO CARES LETS JUST RUN 9 ROUTES AND HAVE A FOOT RACE DOWN THE FIELD... incompletion.... MUST BE A FLUKE! LETS DO IT AGAIN... Flacco didn't stand a chance tonight.

[Juviebest]

[quote name='counts52' timestamp='1319515815' post='835365']
The lack of urgency on offense in the last 5 minutes of the game was beyond ridiculous. Ravens offense has me at a loss for words
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Couldn't agree more. Flacco looked just as dumbfounded as me...not a trait I want in my QB.

[lowrider]

The entire offense deserves blame. Without a doubt, Flacco was terrible, Rice was bad, the offensive line continues to have consistent miscommunications, and the wide receivers can't get open. But when the entire offense is not clicking at all, then there is something bigger than just one player. We are inconsistent, and something needs to change. YES and YES

[Thepurplehaze]

This comes down on the OC... no question in my mind.

[CalvinSmoke]

At least our receivers fought extremely hard tonight...

[ravensfan160]

I felt so bad for our defense tonight.

[Guest DrVenture45]

I thought we lost our minds when Cam was kicked to the curb by Miami. About the game, why are we always the team that gives out games like free frozen turkeys for the holidays? It's like helping the fat kid over the wall in Phys Ed!!!

[Mick0311]

[quote name='dwshet' timestamp='1319514555' post='835143']
To be honest, scoring zero points as an offense, even as a team, through three quarters of football is unacceptable. Whatever you think of Flacco, he's at least a decent quarterback. With Ray Rice, Anquan Boldin, Torrey Smith, [b]Pitta,[/b] and [b]Dickson[/b], we should be able to get something done on offense. Although Jacksonville is a decent defensive team, something is seriously wrong with our offense. No first downs in the first half? Is that a joke? In terms of talent, this game should have probably been a walkover for us. We very may well end up losing. Whatever the case, our offense has been inconsistent under Cam Cameron. In order to win playoff games, in order to make it to a Superbowl, our offense has to be consistent. If Cam Cameron can't figure out a way to make us consistently good with the weapons we have now, I don't know why he should still have a job here.

Also, first post!

Go Ravens
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Uhh yeah. We had zero, and I mean ZERO open receivers all game, yet we don't find a way to get two young, fresh, TEs involved in the game. This was beyond horrible play calling.

[Romo Ravens]

Cam Cameron needs to go. I've lost sight of what's really real and for a second there, I thought it was Joe Flacco who I could put all of the blame on. But this might have been the absolute worst game I've ever seen an OC call. I'm not even being emotional or saying things I don't want to. Cameron, while not the WHOLE cause of the offenses' disappointing play, is still a major part of it. Personally, I'd say goodbye to him tonight if I was calling the shots. But I'm not, so we'll more than likely see more games similar to this one.

[Guest RBates]

If you fire Cam fire Harbaugh as well, i told everyone when we hired a unproven special teams coach to be the head coach here, that we would be getting into trouble. The guy can't call any aspect except special teams, in the game. Hire Pagano fire harbs and Cam and find an offensive coordinator. Joe Flacco the game is to big for him under the bright lights. That is why we get no Monday night games at home because we don't show up on Monday night anywhere else. Flacco choked as he always does under the bright lights. If Ray Rice is having a bad game the offense is not existent. Who cares if you bounce back against the Cardinals. I can't stand that Blaine Gabbert outplayed our QB, but look at my previous post, i said that Flacco and him are on the same level.

[Guest DrVenture45]

[quote name='SuRihtanil' timestamp='1319515793' post='835363']
I loved all the flags, some of them were uncalled for against our team. I would have made Flacco sit down for a few plays and put in our Rookie to see if he could pick up any slack.
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Yes. Starting QB or not, sometimes you gotta send a wake-up call. As much as I've begun to respect Flacco, it wouldn't be the first time a second stringer lead a team to victory. Give him a chance at least.

[lowrider]

[quote name='RBates' timestamp='1319516841' post='835480']If you fire Cam fire Harbaugh as well, i told everyone when we hired a unproven special teams coach to be the head coach here, that we would be getting into trouble. The guy can't call any aspect except special teams, in the game. Hire Pagano fire harbs and Cam and find an offensive coordinator. Joe Flacco the game is to big for him under the bright lights. That is why we get no Monday night games at home because we don't show up on Monday night anywhere else. Flacco choked as he always does under the bright lights. If Ray Rice is having a bad game the offense is not existent. Who cares if you bounce back against the Cardinals. I can't stand that Blaine Gabbert outplayed our QB, but look at my previous post, i said that Flacco and him are on the same level.[/quote]

Honestly, I can't argue with anything you say about Flacco this week. He deserves everything. But firing Harbaugh after this loss is irrational. Your looking at a coach that too the Ravens to the playoffs his first 3 seasons in a row. That's consistency, and there is very few coaches who have done that. The offense and Cameron has been a consistent problem, and Cameron has been on hot seat since last offseason. I agree that Harbaugh deserves blame, but firing Harbaugh would be foolish. But I'm on the fire Cameron train for sure.

[FerrariFan87]

Love this poll. He better be gone after this season.

[Jamal]

Hes not a very good OC, but he wasn't the one missing open WR's, and choking at the end of the game.

[lowrider]

I wish I could have voted twice....

[rlh445]

I'm voting with my emotions right now and not my head. I'm tired of seeing our guys on the two yard line and we give the ball up to Vonta Leach ON CONSECUTIVE PLAYS. I'm ready for a change. It's taken a few years, but I'm ready to have a new guy calling the offensive plays. Get Cammy Cam outta there.

[Guest DrVenture45]

If we're faltering now, what's going to happen next season? And to think I was starting to feel like Flacco deserved a break... oops!!