Tim Tebow?!

[JO_75]

[quote name='ghost1986' timestamp='1320016551' post='846871']
I don't see a comeback this week which just continues to prove my point: Florida QB's always choke when they get to the NFL.
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1 Game proves he chokes? He didn't choke against Miami, he made a huge comeback to win, just because 1 game he lost doesn't mean nothing. Plus how do you think he is going to do anything when he has no receivers thanks to Denver trading Lloyd.

[T3hRaven]

Fact: Tebow can't throw the ball accurately enough to be an NFL QB. He hasn't progressed at all since college in that department, despite all the supposed work on his throwing motion and whatnot. I knew Tebow coming out was going to be a bust at QB because he can't throw the ball. If Denver would just switch him to RB or TE they might get something out of him. Getting lucky in the fourth quarter against an absolutely terrible winless team does not a franchise QB make.

The best thing to come out of the Tebow experiment is Tebowing. I've been doing that so much the past week, just to make fun of that tool.

[ghost1986]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1320021043' post='847104']

1 Game proves he chokes? He didn't choke against Miami, he made a huge comeback to win, just because 1 game he lost doesn't mean nothing. Plus how do you think he is going to do anything when he has no receivers thanks to Denver trading Lloyd.
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Ever heard of Rex Grossman? And did you pay attention to your post? It was Miami he did it against. You should put "Miami" in bold letters.

[Purple Nurple]

Someone explain "Tebowing". I live in Gator Country and must learn this to make fun of this.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1320052370' post='847578']
Someone explain "Tebowing". I live in Gator Country and must learn this to make fun of this.
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The act of taking on Tebows stance (on one knee, with elbow on knee and hand to head praying) in any location imaginable. The more peculiar your surroundings, the better!

[Purple Nurple]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1320066342' post='847667']

The act of taking on Tebows stance (on one knee, with elbow on knee and hand to head praying) in any location imaginable. The more peculiar your surroundings, the better!
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So, like "The Thinker" statue? Balled fist to forehead?

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1320070779' post='847772']
So, like "The Thinker" statue? Balled fist to forehead?
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Yes sir...

[img]http://static5.businessinsider.com/image/4ea9a8cd6bb3f7a937000025/tebowing.png[/img]

[1/28/01]

another....

[img]http://www.televisioninternet.com/news/pictures/TEBOWING.jpg[/img]

[Purple Nurple]

Oh I'm all over this. There's tebow fanatics everywhere around these parts.

[T3hRaven]

[quote name='Purple Nurple' timestamp='1320076803' post='847952']
Oh I'm all over this. There's tebow fanatics everywhere around these parts.
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Florida is one of the two college teams I follow, and I never understood the obsession with a terrible QB like Tebow. It's not like the problems he's having are new or unforeseen, he's never been an accurate passer. His success in college was more indicative of the relative abundance of talent that surrounded him in college than his ability. If he didn't run like a RB he would have been completely worthless in college, and you don't win games against real teams doing that in this league.

[SaVaGe]

His throws look like a wounded duck trying to off itself. It is sad to say but my sister can throw a better spiral, and she is 10.

[bpytnjr58]

Fox and Elway have A LOT of work to do come off season on both sides of the ball.

[JO_75]

Can I ask why Tebow is the most criticized QB ever? He was on the bench most of his rookie season last year, so we weren't able to tell what he can bring to the table as a QB. In the games he did play in, he did decent enough to warrant a QB Competition this season. Once again, Tebow is on the bench and he made his first start of the season in Miami and made his second start against the Lions. Does everyone expect him to go out and throw for 400 yards automatically thus when he doesn't he is listed as the worst QB?

Aren't we being a little harsh and shouldn't we give him more time to develop instead of saying he isn't a QB when he hasn't been given a chance to truly start? Let's slow down the Tebow hate and wait until he gets to show he can be a QB.

[JamesRules]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1320086460' post='848161']
Can I ask why Tebow is the most criticized QB ever?
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Because he sucks. He had a full year to get in shape and get used to the offense and he still manages to overthrow balls and he can't even throw the ball deep. All he does is run which is bad for the receivers who try to get involved in the offense. I wouldn't be so harsh on him if Josh Mcdaniels was the one who believed in him.

[JO_75]

[quote name='JamesRules' timestamp='1320087076' post='848176']
Because he sucks. He had a full year to get in shape and get used to the offense and he still manages to overthrow balls and he can't even throw the ball deep. All he does is run which is bad for the receivers who try to get involved in the offense. I wouldn't be so harsh on him if Josh Mcdaniels was the one who believed in him.
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Your contradicting yourself. You say he sucks, but yet you then say the only reason your so harsh is because he was drafted in Denver when Josh Mcdaniels was the Head Coach, so to me that says you wouldn't be harsh on him at all if a different coach was coaching Denver, not Mcdaniels. Every QB over throws balls every once in a while, even Tom Brady and Peyton Manning do it. Look at Joe, he does it too. It's hard to learn an offense when you change coaching staff at a time of a lockout which didn't allow players any off-season work outs to learn the new offense. I think the thing that will be interesting is when Tebow goes through the off-season workouts, goes through Camp as Starter and from there we will be able to judge him better.

[bpytnjr58]

Maybe too much was expected of him with his success at Florida and all of the hype surrounding him in Denver. Newton is having a great rookie season but what happens in his second year when everyone figures him out? I look at Tebow along the lines of a Steve Young type QB.

[757RavensFan]

[quote name='bpytnjr58' timestamp='1320092456' post='848315']
Maybe too much was expected of him with his success at Florida and all of the hype surrounding him in Denver. Newton is having a great rookie season but what happens in his second year when everyone figures him out? I look at [b]Tebow[/b] along the lines of a [b]Steve Young[/b] type QB.
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Should NEVER be mentioned in the same sentence together.

[bpytnjr58]

[quote name='757RavensFan' timestamp='1320093733' post='848347']

Should NEVER be mentioned in the same sentence together.
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Not as quick to pass judgement on the guy as others.

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1320086460' post='848161']
Can I ask why Tebow is the most criticized QB ever? He was on the bench most of his rookie season last year, so we weren't able to tell what he can bring to the table as a QB. In the games he did play in, he did decent enough to warrant a QB Competition this season. Once again, Tebow is on the bench and he made his first start of the season in Miami and made his second start against the Lions. Does everyone expect him to go out and throw for 400 yards automatically thus when he doesn't he is listed as the worst QB?

Aren't we being a little harsh and shouldn't we give him more time to develop instead of saying he isn't a QB when he hasn't been given a chance to truly start? Let's slow down the Tebow hate and wait until he gets to show he can be a QB.
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Look I know nothing is set in stone yet as far as how his career will go. But why is he the most criticized QB ever? Because he's the most hyped QB ever. It only makes sense that people will shred the golden child to pieces when he doesn't do well, and especially when he does poorly. He has done nothing at the NFL level to warrant all this praise and hype. I mean analysts will look at his winning at Florida and assume it will translate into the NFL. Really now? How dumb is that? And it isn't hard to warrant a QB competition when your 2011 starting QB is playing as poorly as Orton was. Meanwhile, I don't hear anyone asking him to throw for 400 yards a game.

And yeah, it's definitely fair to give him more time to get things straightened out on the field. HOWEVER, I have never seen a QB start his NFL career so poorly and later turn it into something very good. In almost all cases when you look back at a great QBs career, you can look at his rookie season and second season and see signs of a good future. Peyton Manning was a quick learner. Flacco and Ryan have been quick learners, so has Stafford. Now a few years later, all three of those guys are clearly ahead of Sanchez who threw 12 TDs and 20 picks his rookie year. Things don't just switch like that for a QB in this league, and I have seen little signs of a good future. Again, it's not over and I could very well be wrong after several years. I'm just stating my prediction. Honestly, I think he could be another Jamarcus Russell, only with better work ethic, better character and last longer in the league. But yes I said it. He may end up being almost as big a bust as Leaf or Russell.

[JamesRules]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1320091882' post='848306']

Your contradicting yourself. You say he sucks, but yet you then say the only reason your so harsh is because he was drafted in Denver when Josh Mcdaniels was the Head Coach, so to me that says you wouldn't be harsh on him at all if a different coach was coaching Denver, not Mcdaniels. Every QB over throws balls every once in a while, even Tom Brady and Peyton Manning do it. Look at Joe, he does it too. It's hard to learn an offense when you change coaching staff at a time of a lockout which didn't allow players any off-season work outs to learn the new offense. I think the thing that will be interesting is when Tebow goes through the off-season workouts, goes through Camp as Starter and from there we will be able to judge him better.
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Are you saying that because you like him, or that you really believe in him because I don't. Randy from South Park believes in Tebow, but he didn't think Jay Cutler was that good of a QB. I still love you Randy, he's favorite character on South Park by a landslide. That's a good way of telling that this season sucks but that's offtopic.

[flaccopoe]

I think that the Broncos would be better off with Orton for now.

[ravensdfan]

I'm actually starting to feel a little bit sorry for the guy. The crew on MNF blasted him, saying he should have said something to try and stop the "start Tebow" campaign. Well, he did early on. He backed Orton as the starter and asked the fans not to do it. They did it anyway. Not really his fault nor in his control. I blame the Denver organization. Cowtowing to fans demands. There was a reason he was 3rd behind Orton AND Quinn. I think the kid got thrown into the Lions' Den before he was ready and the organization was well aware he wasn't ready. That said, I don't think he has what it takes to make it in the NFL but that would just be my opinion. I could be wrong.

[JO_75]

[quote name='JamesRules' timestamp='1320110330' post='848656']
Are you saying that because you like him, or that you really believe in him because I don't. Randy from South Park believes in Tebow, but he didn't think Jay Cutler was that good of a QB. I still love you Randy, he's favorite character on South Park by a landslide. That's a good way of telling that this season sucks but that's offtopic.
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No I don't like him, I just think he hasn't been given a fair opportunity/chance to show what he can do, plus he doesn't have the talent around him to be able to succeed right now. All I'm saying is if given the best opportunity to succeed(legit receivers, tight ends, offensive line) Tebow can be a NFL Quarterback. I feel Denver right now isn't setting him up to succeed, and I feel if he had the talent around him and was in a position to succeed he would be successful.

[usmccharles]

I dont blame teebow, its josh mcdaniels and the medias fault. TT (teebow) shouldnt have been a first round pick, but with mcdaniels giving us so many picks and people not happy with ortin, and broncos obviously not a playoff contender, they have to see what they have in TT even if he sucks for a couple more games, at the end if he shows potential then it might be worth it. The problem IMO is that they arent fitting the offense around him, they are trying to make him someting he is not and with elway there, i doubt they will switch to the offense style that TT could excel in.

All that being said, i doubt the broncos could take the #1 pick from anyone, Miami needs a qb, st louis could considerate and trade bradford, and the big one, the colts. i think the colts should take luck and trade manning, ive been saying that all year long....will that happen, most likely not

[The Raven]

I think Tebow was a huge reach when they took him, and he wasn't worth what they gave up for him. He has done absolutely terrible so far in his career.

However, he is that kind of player that shows so much potential and I can see him becoming a really good player. I think if he had more talent around him, he'd do better. I also think, as much as I like Tebow, he should've sat and learned for this season. I mean, Orton is no HOF QB but I'm sure Tebow could learn a thing or two. I think they threw him to the fire to quickly. But I maintain that he has potential to be a good quarterback. He's just in a bad situation.

[TheRavenouseD2008]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1320097605' post='848441']
Look I know nothing is set in stone yet as far as how his career will go. But why is he the most criticized QB ever? Because he's the most hyped QB ever. It only makes sense that people will shred the golden child to pieces when he doesn't do well, and especially when he does poorly. He has done nothing at the NFL level to warrant all this praise and hype. I mean analysts will look at his winning at Florida and assume it will translate into the NFL. Really now? How dumb is that? And it isn't hard to warrant a QB competition when your 2011 starting QB is playing as poorly as Orton was. Meanwhile, I don't hear anyone asking him to throw for 400 yards a game.

And yeah, it's definitely fair to give him more time to get things straightened out on the field. HOWEVER, I have never seen a QB start his NFL career so poorly and later turn it into something very good. In almost all cases when you look back at a great QBs career, you can look at his rookie season and second season and see signs of a good future. Peyton Manning was a quick learner. Flacco and Ryan have been quick learners, so has Stafford. Now a few years later, all three of those guys are clearly ahead of Sanchez who threw 12 TDs and 20 picks his rookie year. Things don't just switch like that for a QB in this league, and I have seen little signs of a good future. Again, it's not over and I could very well be wrong after several years. I'm just stating my prediction. Honestly, I think he could be another Jamarcus Russell, only with better work ethic, better character and last longer in the league. But yes I said it. He may end up being almost as big a bust as Leaf or Russell.
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Joe Montana nough said , until year 4 he did squat then bam , the reason he is the most highly critized has Nothing to do with Football and its wrong!

[-Truth-]

Jim Brockmire (Hank Azaria) on NFL Network with Rich Eisen: "I do love watching Tebow play. I go to say. He just, he combines all the fiery leadership of Ray Lewis with the, uh, throwing ability of Ray Lewis."

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That's absolutely hilarious, they just keep pouring in!

[bpytnjr58]

I remember Elway's first couple of seasons...there was nothing to see there either.