Raiders Acquire Carson Palmer

[Clutch Ravens]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1318968093' post='827607']
Palmer is in the Building at Oakland according to NFL Network.

The trade deadline is up and only Palmer, Aaron Curry and Brandon Lloyd were traded.
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Surprised Oakland didn't just give up the rest of their 2012 draft for Lloyd.

[RavensAllTheWay]

It is a big day in Cincinnati, but what in gods name is OAK thinking?

[Ravenslifer]

I still can't believe they were willing to give up 2 first round picks for Palmer. He's 32, and I really feel like he's never fully recovered from his 2008 injury. 2 first round picks sounds like a serious "win now" move, and I just don't see that Palmer can either play to the ability that justifies those picks or that he will be around long enough for the Raiders to at least say they got good use out of him. On the other hand, a fresh start in Oakland may really help Palmer, so who knows. Sadly, this puts Cinci in a great position in upcoming drafts, which means they will be an even tougher opponent in the future.

[JO_75]

Picture of Palmer signing the Contract...

[url="http://twitter.com/#!/RAIDERS/status/126387631767556096/photo/1"]http://twitter.com/#...7556096/photo/1[/url]

Carson Palmer will wear Jersey # 3

[1/28/01]

Next years salary is under $3M...he took a HUGE pay cut to play ball this year! Good for him and I wish him well (but not really).

[RavensAllTheWay]

[quote name='Ravenslifer' timestamp='1318969064' post='827638']
I still can't believe they were willing to give up 2 first round picks for Palmer. He's 32, and I really feel like he's never fully recovered from his 2008 injury. 2 first round picks sounds like a serious "win now" move, and I just don't see that Palmer can either play to the ability that justifies those picks or that he will be around long enough for the Raiders to at least say they got good use out of him. On the other hand, a fresh start in Oakland may really help Palmer, so who knows. [b]Sadly, this puts Cinci in a great position in upcoming drafts, which means they will be an even tougher opponent in the future.[/b]
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Let's just hope they blow those picks, as they have built quite a history of doing under Mike Brown.

[Jamal]

2 first rounders for a QB who seems to be washed up??

ok....

[ball hawkin 20]

Would've been a great trade if they didn't give up a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder (be realistic they won't make it to the AFC Championship)

All he's worth is a 2nd and 3rd rounder at the most

[JamesRules]

Does this mean that Coach Marvin Lewis will get some sleep now?......or?

I wouldn't be intimidated if the Bengals had all of the top picks. Mike Brown is against only making so much money off the NFL, so all of the players drafted won't be resigned a few years down the line. Terrible franchise. They might be the worst of all time. Quote me lawl.

[Raider9175]

[quote name='True' timestamp='1318963626' post='827529']The Raiders are looking for short term success and are killing their long run future with no draft picks in the first four rounds next year. I like what Hue Jackson has created in Oakland with a respectable well rounded team, but the draft is where you build your team with talent and most importantly depth. Not a fan of gutting your team by trading a lot of draft picks for one player, it's a team sport.[/quote]


Raiders are doing nothing of the sort looking short term. The Raiders have done as well as anyone drafting the last two drafts( Have really stacked their roster with top talent) especially hitting big real late in the draft. When you draft that much quality, you only havea four year window to keep all that talent together . As those players become freeagents those contracts get real expensive. Raiders have one of the youngest roster in the game on both sides of the ball. Adding more picks(young talent) isn't going to help as it trying to keep as much of this young talent together and supplementing that with adding cheap veterans in freeagency. Raioders don't have alot of needs .

You win in this league at the Qb position. Raiders upgraded themselve bigtime there. C Palmer dosen't have to carry this raider offense. This is still Darren Mcfadden offense. C Palmker has alot of explosive weapons at his disposal . Best trio of running backs, most explosive FB, Fastest Wr corp in the game, Very good Tes and oline thatkeeps getting better and better.

Lets see whose laughing last when we se what C Palmer does for tyhis offense. The learning curve won't be long as he very familiar with Jackson playbook. Hue Jackson was C Palmer OC and QB coach at USC.

[Raider9175]

[quote name='ball hawkin 20' timestamp='1318975672' post='827785']Would've been a great trade if they didn't give up a 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder (be realistic they won't make it to the AFC Championship)

All he's worth is a 2nd and 3rd rounder at the most[/quote]

Hue Jackson who speciality is offense this is the guy he wanted to run his offense. So really dosen't matter what you think of carson palmer. Hue jackson believes hes going to take his offense to that next level. Here is C Palmer workout two months ago. Looks like he throwing bullets. http://vimeo.com/27880956

[JO_75]

Carson Palmer is going to START on Sunday when the Raiders play the Kansas City Chiefs, according to Adam Schefter.

[url="http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/217076/raiders-will-start-palmer-against-the-chiefs"]http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/217076/raiders-will-start-palmer-against-the-chiefs[/url]

Well so much for easing him into the lineup and starting him after the bye giving him time to learn the playbook. Should be interesting, I wish I had Sunday Ticket because I would like to see how Palmer does on Sunday.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1319040791' post='828346']
Carson Palmer is going to START on Sunday when the Raiders play the Kansas City Chiefs, according to Adam Schefter.

[url="http://rotoworld.com/headlines/nfl/217076/raiders-will-start-palmer-against-the-chiefs"]http://rotoworld.com...inst-the-chiefs[/url]

Well so much for easing him into the lineup and starting him after the bye giving him time to learn the playbook. Should be interesting, I wish I had Sunday Ticket because I would like to see how Palmer does on Sunday.
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Wow, they have ZERO faith in Boller....wont even let the dude start for one game!

[JO_75]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1319053008' post='828521']
Wow, they have ZERO faith in Boller....wont even let the dude start for one game!
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Um... Would you have faith in Kyle Boller?? I know I wouldn't it.

[bpytnjr58]

Raider fans in my part of the world are optimistic but with caution.

[Raider9175]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1319053008' post='828521']
Wow, they have ZERO faith in Boller....wont even let the dude start for one game![/quote]

If you saw K Boller last week you know why. Raiders had so many recievers wide wide open and Boller missed bad. If you can't hit Wr that are that open, your not an NFl Qb. Not to mention he was getting victimized by the phanthom pass rush. There was no pressure coming(three man rush) and he takes off trying to run . (runs right into a sack). Once Browns saw than thbey start tom blitz Boller u8nmercifully and he was folding like a pack of cards.

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[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1319056081' post='828592']
If you saw K Boller last week you know why.   Raiders had so many recievers wide wide open and Boller missed bad.    If you can't hit Wr that are that open, your not an NFl Qb.  Not to mention he was  getting victimized by the phanthom pass rush.    There was no pressure coming(three man rush)  and he takes off trying to run . (runs right into a sack).     Once Browns saw than thbey start tom blitz Boller u8nmercifully and he was folding like a pack of cards.
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Oh, we know....we know all too well Just funny how quickly the FO scrambled to grab someone, granted they had to with the injury and the trade deadline looming.

[Blex64]

If the Raiders are serious they need to look into beefing up their WR corps as well. DHB is....DHB. Housh sprung to mind as soon as the signing was done, and TO is apparently healthy now as well. Both have worked with Palmer and are, quite frankly, better then anyone on the Raiders roster.

I don't think they're making it past the wild card round regardless, but they clearly want to try, so why not go all in?

[Raider9175]

[quote name='Blex64' timestamp='1319083583' post='828930']If the Raiders are serious they need to look into beefing up their WR corps as well. DHB is....DHB. Housh sprung to mind as soon as the signing was done, and TO is apparently healthy now as well. Both have worked with Palmer and are, quite frankly, better then anyone on the Raiders roster.

I don't think they're making it past the wild card round regardless, but they clearly want to try, so why not go all in?[/quote]

Raiders don't need anything at WR. They have the fastest Wr corp maybe ever assembled. These guys aren't track stars but genuine football players with blazing speed. DHB 6'2 215 sub 4.3 (probably Raiders sixth best wr. Denarius moore 6'195 now that he has a Qb watch his numbers go way up. Jacoby Ford 5'9 185(might be the fastest Nfl player) , Chaz Schilens 6'4 225 4.38 (probably Raiders best overrall Wr who is made out of glass. Louis Murphy 6'2 200 - only downside is he does drop the easy one. D Hagan 6'2 215 Closest thing Raiders have to a possessin reciever

Throw in probably the best trio of running backs (Mcfadden , M Bush and taiwan Jones) All can run and catch the football with the best of them.

A unique weapon in FB Marcel reece- 6'3 245 4.41 who really a Wr playing FB


A Bevy of TEs K Boss 6'6 255(one of the best all round Tes. David Ausberry 6'4 245 4.47 and R Gordon 6'4 265 4.61 T Pryor with Carson Palmer the Qb he will probably get more looks at Wr or TE. Thats another 6'5 235 4.38 guy to play around with.

Last Point now throw in a young Oline that gets better every weeek.


If Carson Plamer is anywhere close tobeing Carson Palmer. You might be looking at one of the most explosive offenses inthe game.

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[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1319120602' post='829068']
Raiders don't need anything at WR. They have the fastest Wr corp maybe ever assembled.    These guys aren't track stars but genuine football players with blazing  speed.    DHB 6'2 215 sub 4.3 (probably Raiders sixth best wr.   Denarius moore 6'195 now that he has a Qb watch his numbers go way up.      Jacoby Ford 5'9 185(might be the fastest Nfl player)  ,  Chaz Schilens 6'4 225 4.38 (probably Raiders best overrall Wr who is made out of glass.    Louis Murphy 6'2 200 - only downside is he does drop the easy one.    D Hagan 6'2 215   Closest thing Raiders have to a possessin reciever
Throw in probably the best trio of running backs (Mcfadden , M Bush and taiwan Jones)  All can run and catch the football with the best of them.
A unique weapon in FB Marcel reece- 6'3 245 4.41   who really a Wr playing FB
A Bevy of TEs K Boss 6'6 255(one of the best all round Tes.   David Ausberry 6'4 245 4.47 and R Gordon 6'4 265 4.61   T Pryor with Carson Palmer the Qb he will probably get more looks at Wr or TE.    Thats another 6'5 235 4.38  guy to play around with.  
Last Point now throw in a young Oline that gets better every weeek.  
If Carson Plamer is anywhere close tobeing Carson Palmer.  You might be looking at one of the most explosive offenses inthe game.
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I applaud your optimism, but fast (40 times) mean very little in the NFL. That's one thing the Raiders (and Davis) never understood. I'd be careful calling yourself a would be top offensive unit with no real #1 WR and a Carson Palmer who never really did anything ever (and ceratainly isnt worth 2 possible #1's). McFadden is a best, yes!

[Raider9175]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1319120958' post='829071']
I applaud your optimism, but fast (40 times) mean very little in the NFL. That's one thing the Raiders (and Davis) never understood. I'd be careful calling yourself a would be top offensive unit with no real #1 WR and a Carson Palmer who never really did anything ever (and ceratainly isnt worth 2 possible #1's). McFadden is a best, yes![/quote]


Again there is a big diffrence between drafting track guys and trying to convert them to football. And Drafting football players that have blazing speed. (last couple years raiders have done real well) You put a healthy Qb like Carson Palmer behind the talent Raiders possess on offense and its not being optimism but just stating facts. Come back in a cpoupler weeks and tell me what you think. Ravens don't even have half the talent Raiders have on offensae.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1319128846' post='829171']
Again there is a big diffrence between drafting track guys and trying to convert them to football.   And Drafting football players that have blazing speed. (last couple years raiders have done real well)    You put a healthy Qb like Carson Palmer  behind the talent Raiders possess on offense and its not being optimism but just  stating facts.  Come back in a cpoupler weeks and tell me what you think.   Ravens don't even have half the talent Raiders have on offensae.
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You have stated zero facts (minus 40 times, hahahaha). The rest is all speculation on your part.

[SaVaGe]

I'm hoping that at some point the Bengals and Raiders make the playoffs and face each other and Carson just dominates. Of course then they advance to us and lose horribly.

[Guest ArmyRaven52]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1319128846' post='829171']
Again there is a big diffrence between drafting track guys and trying to convert them to football. And Drafting football players that have blazing speed. (last couple years raiders have done real well) You put a healthy Qb like Carson Palmer behind the talent Raiders possess on offense and its not being optimism but just stating facts. Come back in a cpoupler weeks and tell me what you think. [b] Ravens don't even have half the talent Raiders have on offensae.[/b]
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Except for O line QB and RB. Yeah DMC is a beast but so is RR, QB he is unproven and has had no time with his receivers. Right now Flacco>>> Any raiders QB. O line, lets not even start that one. And that is just assuming that offense is the only part of the TEAM.

Lets Talk D for a minute shall we..... Not lets not because I cant talk about the raiders D for a minute.

Oh by the Way we have more proven WR's. yours are just faster. Look at how good that has panned out.

[Raider9175]

[quote name='ArmyRaven52' timestamp='1319132452' post='829205']

Except for O line QB and RB. Yeah DMC is a beast but so is RR, QB he is unproven and has had no time with his receivers. Right now Flacco>>> Any raiders QB. O line, lets not even start that one. And that is just assuming that offense is the only part of the TEAM.

Lets Talk D for a minute shall we..... Not lets not because I cant talk about the raiders D for a minute.

Oh by the Way we have more proven WR's. yours are just faster. Look at how good that has panned out.[/quote]

D MCfadden is the best rb in the game. The trio OF Mcfadden. M Bush and Taiwan Jones I wouldn't trade with anyone trio.

Qb your joking right- Flacco is not even in the same league as Carson Plamer(threw the sixth most yards last season) When can you ever say that about Flacco.

Raiders Oline is playing as well as any Oline in the game(only going to get better when Bruce campbell, and Joe Barksdale eventually join starting lineup. Raiders are the number 2 rushing team and have only given up 7 sacks all year(K Boller ran into two of them) With carson Palmer release alot faster than Jason Campbell those numbers are only going toget better.


Now with a real Qb behind center, Not only will Raiders show their Wr corp is faster but way better than the ravens.


Defense thats another story. Your defense is playing as well as any defense right now.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1319144599' post='829347']
D MCfadden is the best rb in the game.  The trio OF Mcfadden. M Bush and Taiwan Jones I wouldn't trade  with anyone trio.  
Qb your joking right-   Flacco is not even in the same league as Carson Plamer(threw the sixth most yards last season) When can you ever say that about Flacco.  
Raiders Oline is playing as well as any Oline in the game(only going to get better when Bruce campbell, and Joe Barksdale eventually  join starting lineup.      Raiders are the number 2 rushing team  and have only given up 7 sacks all year(K Boller ran into two of them)   With carson Palmer release alot faster than Jason Campbell  those numbers are only going toget better.  
Now with a real Qb behind center, Not only will  Raiders show their Wr corp is faster but way better than the ravens.
Defense thats another story.    Your defense is playing as well as any defense right now.
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McFadden is good, no doubt. RR is more of a threat all around and thats widely known.

Dude, Carson plays scared!! He also threw 20 picks last year. By the way, this IS NOT 2005 or 2006 (the ONLY two years Palmer has been impressive). Its 2011 and Palmer has done squat in half a decade!!

[Raider9175]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1319144833' post='829351']
McFadden is good, no doubt. RR is more of a threat all around and thats widely known.

Dude, Carson plays scared!! He also threw 20 picks last year. By the way, this IS NOT 2005 or 2006 (the ONLY two years Palmer has been impressive). Its 2011 and Palmer has done squat in half a decade!![/quote]

Again no Nfl guy would take Ray Rice over darren Mcfadden. Thats no slight against ray rice as I saw him alot playing in high schoool. Hes very good. http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead?player1=MCF084974&player2=RIC154451&player3=null&player4=null&position=runningback&playerOne=Darren+McFadden&playerTwo=Ray+Rice&playerThree=Select+a+Player...&playerFour=Select+a+Player...


Joe Flacco completing 51% of his passes this year. I don't care how you try and spin that its horrible.

Now on Carson Palmer interceptions. Yes by just going by stats he threw alot. The fact is his wr (TO and Chad Occhostinko) threw him under the bus. What do I mean. Your Qb expects you to run a certain route and throwing the football before you come out of your break. You change the pattern your running that Qb expects to be diffrent and the Qb not the Wr(who was at fault) looks like the bad guy.

There is a reason Carson Palmer was dead set against ever playing for the Bengals.

This is the most explosive weapons C Palmer has ever played with.

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[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1319146273' post='829364']
Again no Nfl guy would take Ray Rice over darren Mcfadden.   Thats no slight against ray rice as I saw him alot playing in high schoool.    Hes very good.   [url="http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead?player1=MCF084974&player2=RIC154451&player3=null&player4=null&position=runningback&playerOne=Darren+McFadden&playerTwo=Ray+Rice&playerThree=Select+a+Player...&playerFour=Select+a+Player..."]http://www.nfl.com/s...ect+a+Player...[/url]
Joe Flacco completing 51% of his passes this year.  I don't care how you try and spin that its horrible.  
Now on Carson Palmer interceptions.  Yes by just going by stats he threw alot.   The fact is his wr (TO and Chad Occhostinko)    threw him under the bus.  What do I mean.  Your Qb expects you to run a certain route and throwing the football before you come out of your break.   You change the pattern your running that Qb expects to be diffrent and the Qb not the Wr(who was at fault) looks like the bad guy.  
There is a reason Carson Palmer was dead set against ever playing for the Bengals.  
This is the most explosive weapons C Palmer has ever played with.
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Ray Rice has the 2nd most yards from scrimmage in the last 3 years, ONLY behind CJ. So, again, you've stated just an opinion and put a guarantee behind it. Flacco has a low completion percentage this year, no doubt. Cannot dispute that. But, to bring up last years season for Palmer, is laughable considering the year he had. Granted, you, for some reason, are going off strictly total yards, the rest of his numbers were horrible. Here a little game for ya....take Palmer's attempts and see how many yards Mr Flacco would have had. Hint - its a lot more than Palmer AND he threw only 1 less TD BUT half as many picks. Again, this isn't 2005/2006. NO EXCUSES ON THE INT PORTION - he averages something like 17/18 picks a year!

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[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1319146273' post='829364']
Again no Nfl guy would take Ray Rice over darren Mcfadden.   Thats no slight against ray rice as I saw him alot playing in high schoool.    Hes very good.   [url="http://www.nfl.com/stats/headtohead?player1=MCF084974&player2=RIC154451&player3=null&player4=null&position=runningback&playerOne=Darren+McFadden&playerTwo=Ray+Rice&playerThree=Select+a+Player...&playerFour=Select+a+Player..."]http://www.nfl.com/s...ect+a+Player...[/url]
Joe Flacco completing 51% of his passes this year.  I don't care how you try and spin that its horrible.  
Now on Carson Palmer interceptions.  Yes by just going by stats he threw alot.   The fact is his wr (TO and Chad Occhostinko)    threw him under the bus.  What do I mean.  Your Qb expects you to run a certain route and throwing the football before you come out of your break.   You change the pattern your running that Qb expects to be diffrent and the Qb not the Wr(who was at fault) looks like the bad guy.  
There is a reason Carson Palmer was dead set against ever playing for the Bengals.  
This is the most explosive weapons C Palmer has ever played with.
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Didnt feel like editing my post above, but you HONESTLY think what you have is more explosive than Chad Johnson in his prime, TJ Housh in his prime and Rudi Johnson stacking 1,500 yard seasons over and over (just to clarify, I am referring to the time from about 2004 - 2006)? McFadden is great, YES! But the rest? Really?

[-Truth-]

[quote name='Raider9175' timestamp='1319144599' post='829347']
Qb your joking right- Flacco is not even in the same league as Carson Plamer(threw the sixth most yards last season) When can you ever say that about Flacco. [/quote]
Is this a serious statement? Carson is nowhere near the QB he was before his 2005 injury. In fact, he was likely the biggest reason the Bengals lost against the Jets in the 2009 Playoffs, in a game wherein he overthrew numerous receivers on several occasions. And your argument is what? That he threw for 300 yards more than Flacco? Amazing. In his last 3 full seasons, Palmer's thrown for 73 TDs and 53 INTs. That's a TD/INT ratio of 1.3. Not exactly an impressive statistic. And his YPA of 6.8 in 2010 was lower than that of Flacco's in his rookie season, when he was brought along as a game manager. Joe Flacco not being in the same league as Carson Palmer. What a joke.