Need To Lock Up Ray Rice

[nk02442]

Something thats been on my mind for a while.

We need to lock this guy up. I'm talking 6 years , 80 million with 40 of it guarenteed.

He IS our offense. Prob the most valuable player in the league besides Peyton Manning or Calvin Johnson to their respective team.

He is young, just turned 24, and is in phenominal shape. Very few backs put out 100% all the time and fight for every inch like rice does.

We have 7 Million of cap space left. IF we dont trade for someone today or tommrow, take the money and lock up ray. We dont need to get into a bidding war and have what happened to CJ happen here. He has earned every cent and played for very little ($500,000) the last two years. To think we gave foxworth `20Million and ray around 1.5M in the same time period is sick.

We may need the franchise tag to lock up Grubs , beacuse you know he is going to want his money, and we arent going to get lucky like we did with Yanda taking a hometown discount.

I couldnt imagine the team playing without him, same as Ngata. They are both they Keys to their side of the ball, and without them, I dont see us winning to many games.

[Bltravens]

80 mil with 40 guaranteed? That would put us in cap hell. Ray Rice is basically the majority of our offense and he's a special player who we will lock up long term. Just not at those numbers, it will be closer to what CJ2K got this off season.

[FerrariFan87]

4 years, $52 million, $20 million guaranteed.

[Ed_Reed20]

Locking up Rice is obviously a priority but sinking money into RBs, even ones as valuable as Rice, needs to be handled properly. Especially when the franchise QB needs to get his mega-contract as well and one of the best o-lineman's contract is also up.

[1/28/01]

Agreed above, not too mention you state "home town discount" when referring to Yanda, when he got close to (if not) tackle money.

[nk02442]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1318864228' post='826218']
Locking up Rice is obviously a priority but sinking money into RBs, even ones as valuable as Rice, needs to be handled properly. Especially when the franchise QB needs to get his mega-contract as well and one of the best o-lineman's contract is also up.
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Joe hasnt proven himself yet to earn Franchise QB money. He still may be a stopgap untill we get a player who can develop faster and doesnt make bone head mistakes.

In reference to RR here were the last 2 big RB contracts:
-On September 1, Johnson became the highest paid running back, agreeing to a four-year, $53.5 million contract extension, including $30 million guaranteed.
-Vikings resigned Peterson to a deal reportedly for $100 million dollars over the course of seven seasons.

So CJ got 13 mill a year and AP got 14 Mil a year.

I feel ray is a better all around back then CJ. He deserves atleast what they gave him, and with our offense the way it is, he is worth everything to us, unless we want to sit out of the playoffs for the next couple years. AP is the best Pure RB in the league handsdown. If he played on a decent team, he would be unstoppable. While ray is not the runner that AP is, he is effectivley a #2 WR as well as a RB, and that alone puts him up there in that realm of money.

[1/28/01]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1318864698' post='826232']

Joe hasnt proven himself yet to earn Franchise QB money. He still may be a stopgap untill we get a player who can develop faster and doesnt make bone head mistakes.

In reference to RR here were the last 2 big RB contracts:
-On September 1, Johnson became the highest paid running back, agreeing to a four-year, $53.5 million contract extension, including $30 million guaranteed.
-Vikings resigned Peterson to a deal reportedly for $100 million dollars over the course of seven seasons.

So CJ got 13 mill a year and AP got 14 Mil a year.

I feel ray is a better all around back then CJ. He deserves atleast what they gave him, and with our offense the way it is, he is worth everything to us, unless we want to sit out of the playoffs for the next couple years. AP is the best Pure RB in the league handsdown. If he played on a decent team, he would be unstoppable. While ray is not the runner that AP is, he is effectivley a #2 WR as well as a RB, and that alone puts him up there in that realm of money.
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Flaccos not a "stopgap"....wow!

[nk02442]

[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1318864310' post='826223']
Agreed above, not too mention you state "home town discount" when referring to Yanda, when he got close to (if not) tackle money.
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Yanda turned down about 5 Million more that the redskins offered him. You think the Skins wanted chester more than yanda? He could have easily got 40 Mil if he went somewhere else. He took MUCH less then he could have earned to stay in baltimore. That was one hell of a hometown discount.

[tctony]

I'm fine with him getting Chris Johnson numbers. He deserves it, and quite frankly is better than Chris Johnson. Right now I'd put him and Peterson as 1 and 1a.

[Crabcakes&Football]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1318864698' post='826232']

Joe hasnt proven himself yet to earn Franchise QB money. He still may be a stopgap untill we get a player who can develop faster and doesnt make bone head mistakes.

In reference to RR here were the last 2 big RB contracts:
-On September 1, Johnson became the highest paid running back, agreeing to a four-year, $53.5 million contract extension, including $30 million guaranteed.
-Vikings resigned Peterson to a deal reportedly for $100 million dollars over the course of seven seasons.

So CJ got 13 mill a year and AP got 14 Mil a year.

I feel ray is a better all around back then CJ. He deserves atleast what they gave him, and with our offense the way it is, he is worth everything to us, unless we want to sit out of the playoffs for the next couple years. AP is the best Pure RB in the league handsdown. If he played on a decent team, he would be unstoppable. While ray is not the runner that AP is, he is effectivley a #2 WR as well as a RB, and that alone puts him up there in that realm of money.
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You may not know this, but you just turned this thread into a Flacco debate.

Anyway, Rice deserves his money. He's one of the best offensive players in the league, I hope we are able to keep him at a good price. He's gonna get big money but I hope at least both sides are happy about the deal he gets.

[Free Agent]

I really dont think that Rice will want a huge payday. Yes, he deserves it, but I dont think that he will beg for a monster paycheck. While guys like Chris Johnson and Matt Forte clamored for their new contracts, Rice is just letting his play do the talking. He has certainly earned my respect for that.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='Free Agent' timestamp='1318917191' post='827104']
I really dont think that Rice will want a huge payday. Yes, he deserves it, but I dont think that he will beg for a monster paycheck. While guys like Chris Johnson and Matt Forte clamored for their new contracts, Rice is just letting his play do the talking. He has certainly earned my respect for that.
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Yeah, you make a great point. Ray is a really humble dude. He makes something like 600k a year and puts up arguably better numbers than CJ. Yet I havent heard one word out of Ray's mouth that he wants to get paid. He just goes out there every week and puts the offense on his back.

[Radinho84]

the thing with rice is: he deserves to be the highest paid back in the nfl. he is our most important offensive weapon. he is very young and does´t have injury problems (like a lot of other backs have every now and then).

from that point of view he needs to be paid big.

the other thing is that we have a lot of young players on this team that will have to be paid big too (grubbs, flacco, oher, smith1 smith2,...)
what we have and all the other teams with those big contracts don´t have is a team that will be in the playoffs for the next decade and always has a shot at the Super Bowl. that is a situation that you may like as a player especially when you are brought in as a rookie. we saw what happens to people that deserve their dollars (ngata, yanda) and what happens to those who demand to be paid but not being that big to the team (mcclain, the other big tackle, lol)

we have guys on the team that know how important a TEAM is in this sport and rice is a team first guy. he will get big money but in a amount that we can afford all our other guys that we what to keep. that´s what i like the most about our organization. we don´t throw big money at overrated fellas....

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='nk02442' timestamp='1318864698' post='826232']
[b]Joe hasnt proven himself yet to earn Franchise QB money. He still may be a stopgap untill we get a player who can develop faster and doesnt make bone head mistakes.[/b]

In reference to RR here were the last 2 big RB contracts:
-On September 1, Johnson became the highest paid running back, agreeing to a four-year, $53.5 million contract extension, including $30 million guaranteed.
-Vikings resigned Peterson to a deal reportedly for $100 million dollars over the course of seven seasons.

So CJ got 13 mill a year and AP got 14 Mil a year.

I feel ray is a better all around back then CJ. He deserves atleast what they gave him, and with our offense the way it is, he is worth everything to us, unless we want to sit out of the playoffs for the next couple years. AP is the best Pure RB in the league handsdown. If he played on a decent team, he would be unstoppable. While ray is not the runner that AP is, he is effectivley a #2 WR as well as a RB, and that alone puts him up there in that realm of money.
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You can't be serious. The guy is certainly deserving of some of the criticism that comes his way but he's proven worthy of a long-term deal in my opinion and is by no means a stop-gap.

[Corvus]

Just wanted to jump in here and give Ray huge props for not caring about contract situations and going out every week balling. The guy is making less than a million this year, is arguably the most productive back in the NFL right now, and has simply kept his nose to the grindstone. He knows his payday is coming and isn't going to undermine his team's continuity like some other team's backs with immense views on their own worth.

[Purple Punishment]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1318937334' post='827141']

You can't be serious. The guy is certainly deserving of some of the criticism that comes his way but he's proven worthy of a long-term deal in my opinion and is by no means a stop-gap.
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Joe is good with flashes of great. I dont believe hes worth what the top QBs in the league are earning yet. $10mil a year is the absolute ceiling I would give him with 7 being the rock bottom and maybe a stipulation in the contract that when he does finally have his awakening, he can re negotiate his existing contract.

[ravensfan160]

Rice's price just keeps going up with every game we play that's for sure.